There sure is, like sex. I love some slow jams from folks like Prince, Rick James, Cameo, Heatwave, Switch, The Stylistics, Blue Magic, Normon Conners, etc. Music is great for sex too.

I guess I should make a correction then, if a song don't touch my ass or my dick, then it's worthless. I ain't got time for none of this..."sit and listen to a song and think about how beautiful it is"...(yawn)...type of music.

midnightmover said:

Down here in Mississippi, it's a little different than the rest of the world because most of the current blues artists live here and there is a radio station that promotes the hell out of the blues. Most black people my age listen to either blues or the "soft soul" station that plays mostly slow shit from the late 80s, 90s, and today....(yawn).

What you have to realize is, we are huge music lovers here on the org. We have bought music for years, have kept all our old music, and continuously look for more old music that we don't already have. Most of the world isn't as serious about music as we are here on the org. They don't have the huge music collections to turn to that we have so they have to depend on whatever bullshit the radio stations feed them.

Well, I don't want anything that "touches my heart". I want something that touches my ass. If I want heart-touching stuff, I'll turn on Lifetime and watch one of it's movies.

phunkdaddy said:

You are on point vain. This year i have bought 3 cd's by graham central station and 2 by parliament. I bought my first new cd of the year yesterday when i purchased prince's planet earth.

My wife said if we weren't going out of town this weekend she would have went to see beyonce too. I told her i hope your ass get a part time job to pay for that shit cause you sure as hell won't get my 100 dollars to see that get me bodied shit.

phunkdaddy said:

thats a very stupid theory.
don't you know that white people listen funk more then black people.
black people invented funk and rock'n'roll but for some reason they are much more into shit hop

Unfortunately, that's the future I see for funk and it's not the future I want for it. I see it ending up like jazz or blues and start being considered part of "the arts" with a few curious white people exploring other "cultures".

Funk was a strong rhythmic music that was meant for life and ass shakin' in clubs and parties. It should always be mainstream in some form on R&B radio instead of a bunch of slow ass shit hop that you can't do nothing with other than just "sit and listen". That shit's for the birds.

Who's going to be the Wynton Marsalis for funk?

When I get older, I will be holding on to my walker and shaking my ass. When I get even older than that, I will be shaking it sitting down in the seat of my wheelchair. When I become bedridden, I will be turned to the side and shaking it in my bed. Hopefully my family will get me a waterbed so I can really do some shaking. The only thing that would stop my ass from shaking would be if I were paralized.

As for my dick, I would just have to throw the slow jams away because I don't want no Viagara. When I get old, I hope I lose my sex drive because a wrinkled up old man would have to pay someone to have sex with him. Andy don't pay nobody. I'm a whore forever, never a trick.

namepeace said:

Or his Stanley Crouch wingman?


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

You misunderstand my hangin' buddies Stanley and Wynton, tA, namepeace. They just digs old funk, like way back over yonder funk ...

theAudience said:

You misunderstand my hangin' buddies Stanley and Wynton, tA, namepeace. They just digs old funk, like way back over yonder funk ...

ok, this isn't a generalization but i've gathered from a few posts here that many of those who hate on funk as a genre on this site might be non African-American. vain andy seems to be the exception LOL. (lots of ppl don't want to hear the funky Prince). i've heard it called the worst genre ever, and pointless music.

Could it be that because funk is arguably the MOST rhythm based music of all genres (read "blackest") and therefore where the rhythmlessness myth holds true (if u follow my thought), it alienates those fans? [this argument could be extended to hip-hop, (at least where the content ISN'T so vulgar or juvenile) but based on its aesthetics, not funkiness].

whaddya think?

datdude said:

This has come up more on the Prince: Music and More forum than here.



tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

I’m not going to sugarcoat or beat around the bush about it. There are always cool exceptional people who explore beyond what they are “supposed to” but a lot of hatred of funk has to do with racism.

I grew up in The South in the early 1980s and, back then, no white person listened to funk in my area except me. My first love was disco (which was listened to by all races) and when disco died, I turned to the closest sounding thing at the time, which was funk. People will not admit it but most of it had to do with racism. I know firsthand because white people called me every “nigger lover” name in the book. They didn’t say things like …. “Why are you listening to that disco sounding shit. Disco is dead”…..They said things like “Why do you listen to that nigger shit, you must be a damn nigger lover”….It didn’t take long before I had developed a strong hatred toward my own race. In those days, I did “all things black”. All my friends were black, I only dated black people, and I went skating on “Super Soul Skate Night” only….in other words….. “Black Night”. It had gotten to the point that if I saw another white person in the place, I would let them know real quick…. “Motherfucker, I am the only white delight in this place tonight. Get lost”. I never changed until the 1990s after I had several black people to shit on me, just like white people had before. It was then, that I realized that there are good and bad in all races.

You may think…. “Well this motherfucker had other issues besides just musical preference”….. but at the very beginning, it all started when white people tried to dictate something as simple as what music I’m “supposed to listen to” because of my race. Then they tried to dictate who I should be friends with.

I realize that I’m from The South and The South has always been the most racist place on earth. However, if you look at the music charts back then and the television shows such as “American Bandstand” and “Soul Train”, you will see that there were separate black and white audiences for different types of music back then. Apparently, issues with race and music was a nationwide thing but not just as brazen and in the open as The South. Since this is a Prince site, here’s a perfect example. Why the hell was Prince not played on white radio stations after the death of disco and why the hell hadn’t most white people heard of Prince before “Little Red Corvette”? Prince had put rock tracks on all his earlier albums so there was certainly rock for them to play if it’s just a genre thing. Prince wasn’t played on white stations because he was black. People can sugarcoat it all they want to but that’s just the way it was.

As a got older, a noticed a lot of white people I grew up with listening to stuff like “Freak-A-Zoid” by Midnight Star or “Let It Whip” by The Dazz Band. These songs were never played on white stations in my area so how did they have knowledge of them. I asked some of them and they said they secretly listened to some of those songs growing up but would never admit it……just like I secretly listened to a little rock growing up but would never admit it until I got older.

If you don’t think there is any racism involved in the way the genres have been split between the races, then you have your head buried in the sand.
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vainandy said:

You know what's ironic? The artist that may be the most influential in modern hip-hop history mined the funk catalogues, slowed the tempo, and made tons of money.




By using the funk as his backbone, he may have stolen its potential audience.

Yeah..

They want Prince to be known as a "Pop-Superstar"

That suka's been funkin' since 4 U...


Prince is FUNK!!!


But I wouldn't say this on that other forum...

They think he build Warner Bros. brick by brick..



And Vain....You're on point brotha'!!

Well, I don't want anything that "touches my heart". I want something that touches my ass. If I want heart-touching stuff, I'll turn on Lifetime and watch one of it's movies.

datdude said:

Groove-deafness you know he wasn't being serious...

its an aquired taste...
And not all funk is good...
the vast majority of funk released was absolute swill...
thats why it died quickly...
The problems with funk were, it wasn't lyrically or vocally substantial.
Prince healed this with adding good to decent lyrics, and fusing the rock counterpart.

Me personally i have to be in a certain mood to listen to funk, its not one of those genres i can listen to or play everyday...
simply because im lyrically and vocally oriented...
and tend to lean towards harmony and melody than actual rhythm...
etc...
which is why some people don't like funk

Surprising as it may seem, I'm not really any more into funk that I am into any other style of music and there's plenty of funk outside the top five or so greatest exemplars of it (James, Sly, P-funk, EWF, The Meters) that I find to be mediocre to bad (and outside of Prince and some Rick James I generally don't like 80s funk at all).

For me, rhythm is at least as important as melody, harmony, counterpoint or any other musical element you could name, which is why I'm not very into European Classical music (yet), and why a tune with a good grove can trump a tune with a solid melody for me.

Funk in the hands of Jazz musicians (Herbie Hancock and The Headhunters as a prime example) tends to incorporate melody and harmony in a sophisticated manner.

Using these 2 albums as illustrations...



...Head Hunters & Thrust

Slick melodies, skillful chord changes combined with carefully constructed arrangements on top of very funky grooves keep the compositions (and in these cases they are truly compositions) from getting boring after a few minutes.

In other words, they don't let the Funk just lay there.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Music is for the ass, lyrics are for the brain. Music lovers should listen to funk. Lyric lovers should buy a book of poetry.

jacktheimprovident said:

This is a very fine point you've raised here which is why I prefer more Jazz based Funk music.

Funk in the hands of Jazz musicians (Herbie Hancock and The Headhunters as a prime example) tends to incorporate melody and harmony in a sophisticated manner.

Using these 2 albums as illustrations...



...Head Hunters & Thrust

Slick melodies, skillful chord changes combined with carefully constructed arrangements on top of very funky grooves keep the compositions (and in these cases they are truly compositions) from getting boring after a few minutes.

In other words, they don't let the [b]Funk just lay there. [/b]

tA

They the same kind of orgers that might think Lovesexy is better than Dirty Mind, Controversy, and even 1999!!! [/b]

Dat, Funk is real stanky, some can't handle that type of stench. You can never wash it off, stays with you FOREVER.....lol.
[cueing up Sizzaleenmean,the Freeze]