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Fusion Album of the Day - The Eleventh House



...featuring Larry Coryell


One of the 70s great Jazz-fusion groups that didn't garner the popularity of The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever or Weather Report. The band's other major personal attraction was the muscular drumming of Alphonse Mouzon. He was the Mahavishnu Orchestra's answer to fusion strongman Billy Cobham. Randy Brecker also appears on this record.

They only recorded 2 other albums...



...Level One & Aspects


Level One saw the departure of Randy Brecker on trumpet and Steve Khan was added on guitar.
By the time they got to Aspects, Alphonse Mouzon was gone and the band had morphed into an odd funk/fusion/disco mix.
The unique thing about this era of the band and this particular album, were some of the players involved:

Larry Coryell - Synthesizer, Bass, Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Keyboards
Michael Brecker - Sax (Tenor)
Randy Brecker - Trumpet, Producer
David Sanborn - Sax (Alto)
Terumasa Hino - Trumpet, Flugelhorn
Gerry Brown - Drums
John Lee - Bass
Steve Khan - Guitar
Mike Mandel - Synthesizer, Keyboards
James Mtume - Percussion


I was fortunate enough to see the original band open for Return To Forever at the University of Florida in Gainesville during the mid 70s.


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Reply #1 posted 07/19/07 3:09pm

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While I'm not hip to their sounds, with a line-up like that, it was a supergroup indeed. cool

I realise it was a while ago, and you've been to many many gigs, but any memories of how this band were when you saw them live?
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Reply #2 posted 07/19/07 3:24pm

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biggrin Kool... I only recently heard the original album; that's a record I always heard about, but nobody I knew back in the day actually owned it, lol---
great lineup!


BTW, What's your take on Coryell as a guitarist?



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Reply #3 posted 07/19/07 3:47pm

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Miles said:

While I'm not hip to their sounds, with a line-up like that, it was a supergroup indeed. cool

I realise it was a while ago, and you've been to many many gigs, but any memories of how this band were when you saw them live?

They were very good. Remember that this was back in fusion's hey-day.
I was in total awe of their ensemble playing along with their individual abilities.

The most striking thing to me, beyond each band's skill level, was the different approach of each drummer.
Alphonse Mouzon's style was very physical. A lot of arms everywhere. Cymbals really high.
Lenny White was just the opposite. He played really tight to his body. Hardly saw any hands.
The amazing thing was that they both had incredibly huge and powerful drum sounds using totally different methods.


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paligap said:

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biggrin Kool... I only recently heard the original album; that's a record I always heard about, but nobody I knew back in the day actually owned it, lol---
great lineup!


BTW, What's your take on Coryell as a guitarist?



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I had it and may still have the LP around somewhere. Not 100% sure though.

To be perfectly honest, I never liked Larry Coryell's tone/sound.
The same with John McLaughlin and those first couple of Mahavishnu records.

Here's the funny part, and this goes for both of them, on acoustic or traditional Jazz guitar they're fine.
It's just when they initially went to the high volume overdriven Rock sound.
Even though they were playing some very interesting things, the sound of it was pretty irritating to me. headache


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Reply #5 posted 07/19/07 4:13pm

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I can't believe you of all people have no idea of the rock/jazz group with the astronaught on the cover! lol I gotta find that damn tape and let you hear it.
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Reply #6 posted 07/19/07 4:23pm

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theAudience said:

paligap said:

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biggrin Kool... I only recently heard the original album; that's a record I always heard about, but nobody I knew back in the day actually owned it, lol---
great lineup!


BTW, What's your take on Coryell as a guitarist?



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I had it and may still have the LP around somewhere. Not 100% sure though.

To be perfectly honest, I never liked Larry Coryell's tone/sound.
The same with John McLaughlin and those first couple of Mahavishnu records.

Here's the funny part, and this goes for both of them, on acoustic or traditional Jazz guitar they're fine.
It's just when they initially went to the high volume overdriven Rock sound.
Even though they were playing some very interesting things, the sound of it was pretty irritating to me. headache




I gotcha!

Now that I think back on it --I first heard Mahavishnu around the time of Birds of Fire and Apocalypse-- I thought the sound as a group (both with Billy Cobham, and later with Narada Michael Walden) was pretty amazing.... and I've always admired his chops, but McLaughlin never quite hit me the same way that guitarists like Santana and Hendrix did, or the way Holdsworth floored me much later...I was never sure why, because I sure like the playing on his last album, 'Industrial Zen'...Now I'll have to go back and listen to see if it was a tone thing, a feel thing, or something else....





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Reply #7 posted 07/20/07 10:27am

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One other minor point.

Looking at some of these early Larry Coryell photos...



...with the bushy hair and his Jazz-Hippy demeanor, he's almost a physical blueprint for Pat Metheny.


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Reply #8 posted 07/20/07 10:37am

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...featuring Larry Coryell


One of the 70s great Jazz-fusion groups that didn't garner the popularity of The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever or Weather Report. The band's other major personal attraction was the muscular drumming of Alphonse Mouzon. He was the Mahavishnu Orchestra's answer to fusion strongman Billy Cobham. Randy Brecker also appears on this record.

They only recorded 2 other albums...



...Level One & Aspects


Level One saw the departure of Randy Brecker on trumpet and Steve Khan was added on guitar.
By the time they got to Aspects, Alphonse Mouzon was gone and the band had morphed into an odd funk/fusion/disco mix.
The unique thing about this era of the band and this particular album, were some of the players involved:

Larry Coryell - Synthesizer, Bass, Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Keyboards
Michael Brecker - Sax (Tenor)
Randy Brecker - Trumpet, Producer
David Sanborn - Sax (Alto)
Terumasa Hino - Trumpet, Flugelhorn
Gerry Brown - Drums
John Lee - Bass
Steve Khan - Guitar
Mike Mandel - Synthesizer, Keyboards
James Mtume - Percussion


I was fortunate enough to see the original band open for Return To Forever at the University of Florida in Gainesville during the mid 70s.


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nod The groove of this band is serious with heavy hitters like David Sandborn , Larry Coryell, and James Mtume.
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Reply #9 posted 07/20/07 12:48pm

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theAudience said:

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By the time they got to Aspects, Alphonse Mouzon was gone and the band had morphed into an odd funk/fusion/disco mix.
The unique thing about this era of the band and this particular album, were some of the players involved:

Larry Coryell - Synthesizer, Bass, Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Keyboards
Michael Brecker - Sax (Tenor)
Randy Brecker - Trumpet, Producer
David Sanborn - Sax (Alto)
Terumasa Hino - Trumpet, Flugelhorn
Gerry Brown - Drums
John Lee - Bass
Steve Khan - Guitar
Mike Mandel - Synthesizer, Keyboards
James Mtume - Percussion


I was fortunate enough to see the original band open for Return To Forever at the University of Florida in Gainesville during the mid 70s.


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I'll have to check these out...thanks!

(Michael Brecker.... mushy)

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