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Printableno other male artist who emerged in the 90s comes CLOSE do d'angelo. man, he is breaking my heart...i want a new record! his shit moves me in a way that no one else's does...especially his debut. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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listening to "shit damn motherfucker" live at the jazz cafe
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Wow.
D'Angelo and Whitney need to record something together quick fast. I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt. | |
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"feel like makin love"
"when you touch me and my feelings start to show... that's the time i feel like making love with youuuuu that's the time i feel like makin dreams come true..." damn that shit is unreal beautiful I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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badujunkie said: "feel like makin love"
"when you touch me and my feelings start to show... that's the time i feel like making love with youuuuu that's the time i feel like makin dreams come true..." damn that shit is unreal beautiful A great cover to be sure, but that song sounds great no matter who sings it. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: badujunkie said: "feel like makin love"
"when you touch me and my feelings start to show... that's the time i feel like making love with youuuuu that's the time i feel like makin dreams come true..." damn that shit is unreal beautiful A great cover to be sure, but that song sounds great no matter who sings it. never heard the original (roberta flak?) but i cant imagine anything more beautiful than D'angelo's ***bumps "Chicken Grease"  I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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CalhounSq said: sosgemini said: i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.
That is WONDERFUL 
But I got judgements - DAMN 
 Ditto!! Where the hell did this man go? 
Damn! The half naked picture doesn't even want to show up on this thread![Edited 7/19/07 17:58pm] | |
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badujunkie said: AlexdeParis said: A great cover to be sure, but that song sounds great no matter who sings it. never heard the original (roberta flak?) but i cant imagine anything more beautiful than D'angelo's Really? Chart-wise, it's her most successful song (the only one to be #1 R&B, pop, and AC). Where D'Angelo's is sexy, hers is more breezy and romantic. The "walking in the park" line is apt.
Here's the song on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wa...zeTYJbe-98 "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Seriously, I don't get all the hype... what the hell is so damn special about this guy? I own a copy of Voodoo and there's like maybe 3 good songs on the album, rest is just crap. This guy has been around for 12 years and released two albums.... TWO (2)...
I was actually thinking the same thing but didn't wanna say it because I thought I would get my ass Hung around here.  Well now that U said it...what really is the big deal with him? I read an interview with Alan Leeds & he said that D'angelo is the most exciting per4mer he has seen since Prince. I was like WTF?! I have seen him per4m lots of times & I was never moved at all....in fact I was a bit dissapointed... 
Maybe somebody can tell me what makes this guy the shit..cuase he only has 2 damn Albums...Personally I would take Rafael Saadiq anyday over him. Just my opinion. | |
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AlexdeParis said: badujunkie said: never heard the original (roberta flak?) but i cant imagine anything more beautiful than D'angelo's Really? Chart-wise, it's her most successful song (the only one to be #1 R&B, pop, and AC). Where D'Angelo's is sexy, hers is more breezy and romantic. The "walking in the park" line is apt.
Here's the song on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wa...zeTYJbe-98 I reallllly like Roberta's too. | |
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Bishop31 said: I was actually thinking the same thing but didn't wanna say it because I thought I would get my ass Hung around here.
Well now that U said it...what really is the big deal with him? I read an interview with Alan Leeds & he said that D'angelo is the most exciting per4mer he has seen since Prince. I was like WTF?! I have seen him per4m lots of times & I was never moved at all....in fact I was a bit dissapointed...
Maybe somebody can tell me what makes this guy the shit..cuase he only has 2 damn Albums...Personally I would take Rafael Saadiq anyday over him. Just my opinion. Rafael himself wouldn't agree with you.
If you've heard the music, there really isn't anything we can truly explain. It's cool if you don't like him. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Cinnie said: AlexdeParis said: Really? Chart-wise, it's her most successful song (the only one to be #1 R&B, pop, and AC). Where D'Angelo's is sexy, hers is more breezy and romantic. The "walking in the park" line is apt.
Here's the song on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wa...zeTYJbe-98 I reallllly like Roberta's too.  How could you not? [Edited 7/19/07 18:22pm] "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Seriously, I don't get all the hype... what the hell is so damn special about this guy? I own a copy of Voodoo and there's like maybe 3 good songs on the album, rest is just crap. This guy has been around for 12 years and released two albums.... TWO (2)...
I have to agree. It's not like it's a case of some apparently obvious raw talent, a la Aaron Hall. I have never heard anything original or distinctive about D'Angelo that can justify some of these comments I've heard people make about his music or talent over the years. [Edited 7/19/07 18:27pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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sosgemini said: i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.
That's one of the smartest things I've seen written on this board. I agree. | |
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Najee said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Seriously, I don't get all the hype... what the hell is so damn special about this guy? I own a copy of Voodoo and there's like maybe 3 good songs on the album, rest is just crap. This guy has been around for 12 years and released two albums.... TWO (2)...
I have to agree. It's not like it's a case of some apparently obvious raw talent, a la Aaron Hall. I have never heard anything original or distinctive about D'Angelo that can justify some of these comments I've heard people make about his music or talent over the years. [Edited 7/19/07 18:27pm] Maybe he touches certain souls. He sure touches mine. I think D'Angelo is special special special! Certainly Roy Hargrove, Saddiq, Spanky, Charlie Hunter, DJ Premier and ?uestlove have added to D's overall sound but it is D'Angelo's name on the releases. He oozes with soul - singing his truth despite the pain that accompanies said truth. Layering his own euphoric vocals on top of each other, D'Angelo makes good use of all that Prince has taught new soul men. I feel D's rage, and depth with each vocal performance. "Dirty is our secret" he says in Playa Playa. His sound is what it implies; gritty, dimly lit, and brown. Like a dark copper colored roux. Hargrove's smooth trumpet and flugel horn are flickering candles in the back. ?uestlove's crisp hi-hat, and hard snare work well for me. Fuck the slice, want the pie. Why ask why til we fry Watch us all stand in line - For a slice of the Devil's Pie. … (What the) Hell is this all about - Apocalypse ain't no doubt Everybody's ho'in out (For) All the loot, all the clout. …To me, D'Angelo is the brightest star, post-Prince, that I've seen. He makes other acts of 1995-2000 seem very pedestrian. That's my word. | |
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There hasn't been a better RNB/SOUL/FUNK album since Voodoo, period. And it's even better live I just got my hands on the Live in Stockholm bootleg and I just can't put it down. He may not have played much funk on record he surely brought it live.
The crowd's response when they realised that D had joined Raphael Saadiq for "you should be here" on the House of blues CD is worth the price of the cd. | |
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Those are your opinions, bobsteezy, and while an opinion is not necessarily wrong that doesn't mean I agree with them.
I've heard D'Angelo's music and there simply nothing I find innovative or distinctive about them. On some songs, he sounds like a Chuckii Booker/Kashif sound-alike. On some songs like "Untitled," he sounds like a broken-down Prince. I don't feel it's even a personal taste issue but a (lack of) innovative sound issue. I'm like Funkenstein; If there was something actually ORIGINAL or DISTINCTIVE about his sound I would understand. But the way some people over the years have raved about D'Angelo, you would have thought his music was as ground-breaking as stuff that people like Marvin Gaye, Prince, James Brown, etc., made when in fact I find nothing about him original or innovative. Maybe the '90s soul music scene was that bad, but at least with some artists (even those I despise like R. Kelly) I can hear some spark of creative or innovative thought. I never heard it with D'Angelo. [Edited 7/19/07 20:08pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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As always I respect your opinion. ...And Funkenstein's as well. Disagreements happen. I was thinking harder about why I like D'Angelo so much and it really is about how his lyrics, and moods, speak to me. I'm always down to just nod my head to some beats and the more I listened to D'Angelo and heard what he was (mumbling) - it just started to become a soundtrack for my own experiences around 2000 - 2001. Seeing him live in Oakland, California (a funky place indeed) only put him over the top with me. He killed Devil's Pie that night; a hard-rocking version that included what I belived was some genuine rage. It was classic (in my book). | |
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Najee said: I'm like Funkenstein; If there was something actually ORIGINAL or DISTINCTIVE about his sound I would understand. But the way some people over the years have raved about D'Angelo, you would have thought his music was as ground-breaking as stuff that people like Marvin Gaye, Prince, James Brown, etc., when in fact I find nothing about him original or innovative.
Maybe the '90s soul music scene was that bad, but at least with some artists (even those I despise like R. Kelly) I can some spark of creative or innovative thought. I never heard it with D'Angelo.  I think he melds his influences into something original and innovative. If I had to pick the best soul albums of the '90s and the 2000s, I'd pick Brown Sugar and Voodoo without hesitation. Nothing else even comes remotely close for me."Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: I think he melds his influences into something original and innovative. If I had to pick the best soul albums of the '90s and the 2000s, I'd pick Brown Sugar and Voodoo without hesitation. Nothing else even comes remotely close for me.Like I said, I have never heard anything that remotely sounds distinctive or original from D'Angelo and certainly nothing worthy of this confounding praise he gets. If you will point me to 10 songs you feel warrant consideration I will listen to them. But I'm like Frankenstein. I've heard people (not just groupie-type fans, but some music critics and some peers like Raphael Saddiq) describe D'Angelo in terms of some Stevie Wonder-, Marvin Gaye-, Prince-, James Brown-level talent and I'm wondering "What in the hell have they been listening to?" because stuff like "Lady" and "Brown Sugar" hardly struck me as something profound. [Edited 7/19/07 20:13pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: AlexdeParis said: I think he melds his influences into something original and innovative. If I had to pick the best soul albums of the '90s and the 2000s, I'd pick Brown Sugar and Voodoo without hesitation. Nothing else even comes remotely close for me.Like I said, I have never heard anything that remotely sounds distinctive or original from D'Angelo and certainly nothing worthy of this confounding praise he gets. If you will point me to 10 songs you feel warrant consideration I will listen to them. Again, it's OK if you don't get it. He certainly won't be to everyone's taste. I'd imagine you've already heard any songs I can suggest, but: 1. Me and Those Dreamin' Eyes of Mine 2. When We Get By 3. Alright 4. Higher 5. I Found My Smile Again 6. The Root 7. One Mo'gin 8. Greatdayndamornin'/Booty 9. Africa 10. Really Love "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Here's my D'Angelo ten...
Higher Lady The Root Spanish Joint U Will Know - BMU (He wrote it and produced it I believe) One Mo Gin Send it On Devil's Pie Me and Those Dreamin Eyes of Mine Left & Right | |
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Like I said, Alex, it's not an issue of personal taste. I can respect artists for what they bring to the table (see Luther Vandross) even though I may not buy their music. For instance, there are Vandross songs I've heard where I can say, "OK, I can see why there are people going on about his/her/their music." Even with artists like R. Kelly (who I can despise), I can see some instance or glimmer of what they bring to the table and why people like them.
But D'Angelo? Not only do I not get it, but then when I hear some people describe him in comparison with innovators such as Prince, Marvin Gaye and James Brown it really is a "WTF?" moment. The only other time I've had a similar feeling toward an artist was with Al B. Sure!, when people were proclaiming his "In Effect Mode" album as some profound brilliance when (like D'Angelo's albums) all his music sounded exactly the same. I've heard all those songs you and Bob listed before (and again listened to clips of them), and again I find nothing profound about them -- they all have that same sound like they were cut in the same take in the same studio with the same two or three instruments and that very mundane voice (a weak falsetto, a la Al B. Sure!). A couple of them have some hip-hop beats, but soul singers have been singing over hip-hop beats way before D'Angelo. If that's "innovative," I hate to think what people think of The Egyptian Lover from the 1980s. [Edited 7/19/07 21:17pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Like I said, Alex, it's not an issue of personal taste. I can respect artists for what they bring to the table (see Luther Vandross) even though I may not buy their music. For instance, there are Vandross songs I've heard where I can say, "OK, I can see why there are people going on about his/her/their music." Even with artists like R. Kelly (who I can despise), I can see some instance or glimmer of what they bring to the table and why people like them.
But D'Angelo? Not only do I not get it, but then when I hear some people describe him in comparison with innovators such as Prince, Marvin Gaye and James Brown it really is a "WTF?" moment. The only other time I've had a similar feeling toward an artist was with Al B. Sure!, when people were proclaiming his "In Effect Mode" album as some profound brilliance when (like D'Angelo's albums) all his music sounded exactly the same. I've heard all those songs you and Bob listed before (and again listened to clips of them), and again I find nothing profound about them -- they all have that same sound like they were cut in the same take in the same studio with the same two or three instruments and that very mundane voice (a weak falsetto, a la Al B. Sure!). A couple of them have some hip-hop beats, but soul singers have been using over hip-hop beats way before D'Angelo. If that's "innovative," I hate to think what people think of The Egyptian Lover from the 1980s. [Edited 7/19/07 20:47pm] I'm with U. I don't get it either. I'm gonna take a listen 2 those songs they suggested. Maybe then I will hear what they hear. But I still am very turned off by his lack of stage Presence. But..we all have different tastes..so its cool.  | |
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Bishop31 said: I'm with U. I don't get it either. I'm gonna take a listen 2 those songs they suggested. Maybe then I will hear what they hear. But I still am very turned off by his lack of stage Presence. But..we all have different tastes..so its cool.
Yeah, it's one thing if it's personal taste. What I have problems getting my head around is D'Angelo's reputation as some innovative talent, a la Stevie Wonder and Prince. I just don't hear anything innovative or special about what music he has done that distinguishes him as some profound musician/producer/singer/entertainer, as his standing suggests. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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rebelsoldier said: He may not have played much funk on record he surely brought it live.
Agreed. That's for sure. | |
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Najee said: Bishop31 said: I'm with U. I don't get it either. I'm gonna take a listen 2 those songs they suggested. Maybe then I will hear what they hear. But I still am very turned off by his lack of stage Presence. But..we all have different tastes..so its cool.
Yeah, it's one thing if it's personal taste. What I have problems getting my head around is D'Angelo's reputation as some innovative talent, a la Stevie Wonder and Prince. I just don't hear anything innovative or special about what music he has done that distinguishes him as some profound musician/producer/singer/entertainer, as his standing suggests. I just watched a bunch of YouTube clips of him per4ming. I agree he is a great singer with a unique voice. But 4 me thats where is stops. His Brown Sugar & Voodoo Album I think I like 5 songs combined...?? Than when I watch him play his Keyboard on Stage it looks like he isn't doin much but hitting a chord here..then a chord there. I by no means am trying 2 come off as Judgemental on the man. I'm just trying 2 see what makes him this 'Legendary' figure he has become. Not trying 2 sound like a 'Fam' but when I watch Artists like Prince there is NO doubt in my mind that this man is Simply Brilliant. The same goes 4 Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson(in the 80's)...these guys it didn't take personal taste 2 know that they were simply Amazing. When I watch & listen 2 D'Angelo I hear a good singer...ladies obviously love him 4 his back then good physique. Also having freakin Angie Stone & Anthony Hamilton & Quest Love backing U on stage can help a bit. What I'm trying 2 say is what makes this guy better than a lets say....Maxwell?? Who 2 me runs laps around this guy vocally. | |
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D'Angelo's two albums are good but when I would hear his peers talk about him like he's this Stevie like talent I would laugh, I think all that talk is a product of late 90's/00 R&B which I think most would agree ain't no where near what it used to be.
For my music taste I prefer another cat that came out at the same time in the late 90's, that person would be Maxwell. | |
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CalhounSq said: sosgemini said: i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.
That is WONDERFUL
But I got judgements - DAMN
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Abdul said: D'Angelo's two albums are good but when I would hear his peers talk about him like he's this Stevie like talent I would laugh, I think all that talk is a product of late 90's/00 R&B which I think most would agree ain't no where near what it used to be.
For my music taste I prefer another cat that came out at the same time in the late 90's, that person would be Maxwell. Agreed on "Maxwell". I like all three of his albums. | |
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