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Reply #60 posted 07/20/07 12:19am

MattyJam

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I love Chicken Grease (and the majority of Voodoo actually) but I never forgave D'angelo for bitchin about Prince in the liner notes of the album. Two albums in twelve years and he thinks he has the right to comment on Prince's artistic output? I'd love to see D'angelo attempt to be half as prolific as Prince has been (and still is).
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Reply #61 posted 07/20/07 2:56am

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D'ANGELO DIDN'T WRITE THOSE LINER NOTES...

But frankly, Prince needed a kick up the ass around that time.

MattyJam said:

I love Chicken Grease (and the majority of Voodoo actually) but I never forgave D'angelo for bitchin about Prince in the liner notes of the album. Two albums in twelve years and he thinks he has the right to comment on Prince's artistic output? I'd love to see D'angelo attempt to be half as prolific as Prince has been (and still is).
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Reply #62 posted 07/20/07 3:07am

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Bishop31 said:

What I'm trying 2 say is what makes this guy better than a lets say....Maxwell?? Who 2 me runs laps around this guy vocally.

Now see, I like Maxwell and I think he's a much better singer, but I'll take D'Angelo's music each and every time.

Bishop and Funkenstein mentioned that they only like a handful of songs, but Najee thinks all the songs sound the same. I'd really be interested to know which songs you guys like. hmmm

BTW, Najee, I think it is a matter of personal taste. No offense, but I just don't see how any Prince fan can't see the brilliance of "Untitled (How Does It Feel)." That track took elements of the Prince sound, updated it, and made it relevant in a way Prince himself has been trying to do for around 20 years. Anyway, Bob hears it, I hear it, and a bunch of artists and fans hear it. We're not lying or making it up. shrug
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Reply #63 posted 07/20/07 3:08am

AlexdeParis

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bobsteezy said:

U Will Know - BMU (He wrote it and produced it I believe)

nod Love that song!
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Reply #64 posted 07/20/07 4:04am

Najee

AlexdeParis said:

BTW, Najee, I think it is a matter of personal taste. No offense, but I just don't see how any Prince fan can't see the brilliance of "Untitled (How Does It Feel)." That track took elements of the Prince sound, updated it, and made it relevant in a way Prince himself has been trying to do for around 20 years. Anyway, Bob hears it, I hear it, and a bunch of artists and fans hear it. We're not lying or making it up. shrug


I'm sorry, but when is it considered "brilliant" when a song is known for sounding like something another artist would have made? Where I come from, that's considering "ripping off" or "copying" or "biting" someone's style. "Untitled" is known as D'Angelo trying to sound like Prince, not as something totally original with faint references to an influence.
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Reply #65 posted 07/20/07 4:27am

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Najee said:

AlexdeParis said:

BTW, Najee, I think it is a matter of personal taste. No offense, but I just don't see how any Prince fan can't see the brilliance of "Untitled (How Does It Feel)." That track took elements of the Prince sound, updated it, and made it relevant in a way Prince himself has been trying to do for around 20 years. Anyway, Bob hears it, I hear it, and a bunch of artists and fans hear it. We're not lying or making it up. shrug


I'm sorry, but when is it considered "brilliant" when a song is known for sounding like something another artist would have made? Where I come from, that's considering "ripping off" or "copying" or "biting" someone's style. "Untitled" is known as D'Angelo trying to sound like Prince, not as something totally original with faint references to an influence.

It's a tribute to Prince.
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Reply #66 posted 07/20/07 4:41am

Najee

AlexdeParis said:

It's a tribute to Prince.


It's hardly "Innversions"- or "What's Going On"-quality, also -- which is how some D'Angelo fans and critics act like how his music should be evaluated.
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Reply #67 posted 07/20/07 7:24am

FarrahMoan

CalhounSq said:

sosgemini said:

i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.


That is WONDERFUL smile

But I got judgements - DAMN eek



disbelief

Ooh, baby I like ROOAAHHHW!!!! lol He likes he needs to shake that "Shimmy Shimmy" off of him.
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Reply #68 posted 07/20/07 9:06am

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AlexdeParis said:

Bishop31 said:

What I'm trying 2 say is what makes this guy better than a lets say....Maxwell?? Who 2 me runs laps around this guy vocally.

No offense, but I just don't see how any Prince fan can't see the brilliance of "Untitled (How Does It Feel)." That track took elements of the Prince sound, updated it, and made it relevant in a way Prince himself has been trying to do for around 20 years. Anyway, Bob hears it, I hear it, and a bunch of artists and fans hear it. We're not lying or making it up. shrug


Well, of course I like that song. But that don't count! lol That was supposed 2 be Prince's song Dammit! That song & 'Send It' are 2 songs I totally dig by him. But when I heard that Maxwell Unplugged album I nearly pooped in my pants it was so Brilliant. D'Angelo has never sounded that good live. Thats why I don't see why he gets more credit 4 his R&B sound than Maxwell who clearly is the better singer.
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Reply #69 posted 07/20/07 10:00am

MsLegs

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D'Angelo's two albums are good but when I would hear his peers talk about him like he's this Stevie like talent I would laugh, I think all that talk is a product of late 90's/00 R&B which I think most would agree ain't no where near what it used to be.

Hmm. That's true.
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Reply #70 posted 07/20/07 10:02am

MsLegs

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D'ANGELO DIDN'T WRITE THOSE LINER NOTES...

But frankly, Prince needed a kick up the ass around that time.

Damn straight.
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Reply #71 posted 07/20/07 10:27am

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Bishop31 said:

AlexdeParis said:


No offense, but I just don't see how any Prince fan can't see the brilliance of "Untitled (How Does It Feel)." That track took elements of the Prince sound, updated it, and made it relevant in a way Prince himself has been trying to do for around 20 years. Anyway, Bob hears it, I hear it, and a bunch of artists and fans hear it. We're not lying or making it up. shrug


Well, of course I like that song. But that don't count! lol That was supposed 2 be Prince's song Dammit! That song & 'Send It' are 2 songs I totally dig by him. But when I heard that Maxwell Unplugged album I nearly pooped in my pants it was so Brilliant. D'Angelo has never sounded that good live. Thats why I don't see why he gets more credit 4 his R&B sound than Maxwell who clearly is the better singer.



so you like the Prince wannabe tune..
and the song that rips off Kool & the Gang's "Sea of Tranquility" neutral
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Reply #72 posted 07/20/07 10:34am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

Seriously, I don't get all the hype... what the hell is so damn special about this guy? I own a copy of Voodoo and there's like maybe 3 good songs on the album, rest is just crap. This guy has been around for 12 years and released two albums.... TWO (2)... disbelief


I'm gonna bet you haven't listened to it more than twice. confused
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Reply #73 posted 07/20/07 10:53am

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prettymansson said:

Bishop31 said:



Well, of course I like that song. But that don't count! lol That was supposed 2 be Prince's song Dammit! That song & 'Send It' are 2 songs I totally dig by him. But when I heard that Maxwell Unplugged album I nearly pooped in my pants it was so Brilliant. D'Angelo has never sounded that good live. Thats why I don't see why he gets more credit 4 his R&B sound than Maxwell who clearly is the better singer.



so you like the Prince wannabe tune..
and the song that rips off Kool & the Gang's "Sea of Tranquility" neutral


Yea..I guess I'm a sucker 4 those Prince'ish vocals. Not counting Justin of course. lol
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Reply #74 posted 07/20/07 10:59am

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CalhounSq said:

sosgemini said:

i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.


That is WONDERFUL smile

But I got judgements - DAMN eek



disbelief





I'm not suprised, he always looked like a loser to me mad

And that's my judgment!



Smooches;)
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Reply #75 posted 07/20/07 11:04am

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Najee said:

Those are your opinions, bobsteezy, and while an opinion is not necessarily wrong that doesn't mean I agree with them.

I've heard D'Angelo's music and there simply nothing I find innovative or distinctive about them. On some songs, he sounds like a Chuckii Booker/Kashif sound-alike. On some songs like "Untitled," he sounds like a broken-down Prince. I don't feel it's even a personal taste issue but a (lack of) innovative sound issue.

I'm like Funkenstein; If there was something actually ORIGINAL or DISTINCTIVE about his sound I would understand. But the way some people over the years have raved about D'Angelo, you would have thought his music was as ground-breaking as stuff that people like Marvin Gaye, Prince, James Brown, etc., made when in fact I find nothing about him original or innovative.

Maybe the '90s soul music scene was that bad, but at least with some artists (even those I despise like R. Kelly) I can hear some spark of creative or innovative thought. I never heard it with D'Angelo.

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D certainly coudn't be called the most innovative artist in the world, but so what? Most artists aren't innovative. And how you can rip D and praise R Kelly (whose name, to me is basically a synonym for "Weak ass R&B/hip hop with bad lyrics about sex") in the same sentence is beyond me.

Bottom line, D'Angelo is a guy who writes great songs. The "Voodoo" album created a MOOD. Overall, the songs can be taken each on its own, but taking them out of context like that doesn't give you the full vibe the record is intended to have. Whereas Brown Sugar was a pop/singles oriented album, "Voodoo" is the exact opposite. It's meant to be listened to as a whole, not as a group of singles. In a way, it's something of a concept album, which in the scope of neo-soul IS somewhat innovative.
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Reply #76 posted 07/20/07 1:58pm

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ok most ppl here are mad cause he hasnt released anything in 20yrs or cause he got big? lol
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Reply #77 posted 07/20/07 2:45pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

CalhounSq said:



That is WONDERFUL smile

But I got judgements - DAMN eek



disbelief



Ditto!!

Where the hell did this man go?



I'd say KFC, BK, Pizza Hut, MacDonald's, White Castle, etc., etc....
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Reply #78 posted 07/20/07 6:55pm

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I'm with the others here who don't see what the big deal about D'angelo is .
Voodoo was an album that to my ears was so bad I literally couldn't listen to
it all in one go , after the first 4 or 5 tracks I had to turn it off . I'd read various gushings about his alleged genius on here though so did give the 2nd half of the album a listen a day or so later , again , complete unlistenable rubbish . The fact that the album liner notes had the cheek to
trash Prince ( regardless of who wrote them , D'angelo let them appear as his words on his album , so we're perfectly entitled to take them as his opinion ) made the insult even worse , a guy produces a terrible album then thinks hes such a talent he can criticise someone else whose truly great , what is this guy smoking . Voodoo , one of the worst albums ever .
On another note , it'd be interesting if this joker did release a new album of some merit without making any effort to improve his physical conditioning and it did well . It'd be a triumph of talent over image for sure , he could become the new Barry White biggrin
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Reply #79 posted 07/20/07 7:09pm

alwayslate

sosgemini said:

bitter bitches the lot of you.


lol


Damn, Have we met?
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Reply #80 posted 07/20/07 8:18pm

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CalhounSq said:

sosgemini said:

i am not going to judge him one bit. if and when he decides to release an album i will judge it on it's own merit's and let him live his life the way he wants to.


That is WONDERFUL smile

But I got judgements - DAMN eek



disbelief


falloff
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Reply #81 posted 07/24/07 8:02pm

Najee

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D certainly coudn't be called the most innovative artist in the world, but so what? Most artists aren't innovative. And how you can rip D and praise R Kelly (whose name, to me is basically a synonym for "Weak ass R&B/hip hop with bad lyrics about sex") in the same sentence is beyond me.


Well, for starters I wasn't praising R. Kelly. neutral In fact, I said several times I detested his music. However, I find it interesting that Kelly is trashed frequently for co-opting the GUY/Teddy Rilley/Aaron Hall personas and style and becoming what he is and yet there are people who praise for D'Angelo for equally doing nothing innovative or profound on his own.

Again, it's the level of comparisons and praise D'Angelo got for his music that is a head-scratcher -- maybe if we lived in a world where acts like Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, Prince, etc. existed maybe I can see the validity of the comments. But that's the thing -- I don't hear anything profound in his music to warrant the comparisons.
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Reply #82 posted 07/26/07 1:47am

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bobsteezy said:

Najee said:



I have to agree. It's not like it's a case of some apparently obvious raw talent, a la Aaron Hall. I have never heard anything original or distinctive about D'Angelo that can justify some of these comments I've heard people make about his music or talent over the years.
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Maybe he touches certain souls. He sure touches mine. I think D'Angelo is special special special!

Certainly Roy Hargrove, Saddiq, Spanky, Charlie Hunter, DJ Premier and ?uestlove have added to D's overall sound but it is D'Angelo's name on the releases.

He oozes with soul - singing his truth despite the pain that accompanies said truth. Layering his own euphoric vocals on top of each other, D'Angelo makes good use of all that Prince has taught new soul men. I feel D's rage, and depth with each vocal performance.

"Dirty is our secret" he says in Playa Playa. His sound is what it implies; gritty, dimly lit, and brown. Like a dark copper colored roux. Hargrove's smooth trumpet and flugel horn are flickering candles in the back. ?uestlove's crisp hi-hat, and hard snare work well for me.

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… (What the) Hell is this all about - Apocalypse ain't no doubt

Everybody's ho'in out (For) All the loot, all the clout.


…To me, D'Angelo is the brightest star, post-Prince, that I've seen. He makes other acts of 1995-2000 seem very pedestrian.

That's my word.


Stands up.... BRAVO!!!!! Amen and hallaluja!! You got it. HE is my 3rd favorite performer of ALL TIME (behind Prince and Billie Holiday) and is just electric live. I am honored to have seen him on the voodoo tour (he walked by me in Orlando on the way out of HOB OMG eek biggrin !!!), and waiting for anything new from the man. As far as his looks, I agree with what someone said that his looks were never really used to sell his music when he first came out. And quite frankly, I could give a rats ass what he looks like! I just want new music!! Love me some D.
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