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Reply #90 posted 07/20/07 8:38pm

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Timmy84 said:

Personally the MOST underrated song in Michael's Motown solo catalog has to be his cover of "Ain't No Sunshine" because he totally flipped it around. Where it had originally been a soft folk song with soulful overtones became a dramatic magnum opus in some degree.

The drums kicked in something funky, then followed by a searing rock guitar and Michael's quiet speaking voice, then suddenly Michael wails oooh... ain't no sunshine when she's gone... and then he just belts it out for the remainder of the song.

When it kicks up a crescendo, he takes it home squarely, I love the crashing of percussion, drums, strings, the background vocalists and Michael all in it like they in church. It truly rules over SOME of the things Michael did in his ADULT solo career. Least in my opinion.


I absolutely LOVE Michael's version of "Aint' No Sunshine". Are there two versions of MJ singing this song? On the Four Disc "J5 Soulsation!", Michael does a version where he has a spoken part that leads into his soulful version of the song. Now, as incredible as his cover of "Ain't No Sunshine" is, you haven't heard anything until you hear his cover of Ray Charles' "A Fool For You". Michael literally sets that song on fire. He is totally amazing in his phrasing and the way he feels the lyrics and melody. He literally makes you forget that he is a child singing that song. If you haven't heard Michael sing "A Fool For You" you are missing a masterpiece.

Some underrated J5 songs are:

"Moving Violation"
"It's Too Late To Change The Time"
"Whatever You Got I Want"
"I Am Love"
"You Ain't Giving Me What I Want"

There are so many underrated J5 songs that it is hard to name just a few.
[Edited 7/20/07 20:42pm]
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Reply #91 posted 07/21/07 4:26am

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That's the thing with Michael and his brothers, I think people forget where Michael started. He started as a Soul Man, or should I say Boy, through and through. He said so himself once in an interview when he was young, that he wanted to sing "Soul" and I truely believe that's how he saw himself up until 20, at least. Then he does Thriller becomes "King of Pop" then we get this bland kind of pop from him.

If Michael wasn't so desperate to be the King of Pop, I could see him evolving into other genres such as Jazz.
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Reply #92 posted 07/21/07 6:26am

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That's the thing with Michael and his brothers, I think people forget where Michael started. He started as a Soul Man, or should I say Boy, through and through. He said so himself once in an interview when he was young, that he wanted to sing "Soul" and I truely believe that's how he saw himself up until 20, at least. Then he does Thriller becomes "King of Pop" then we get this bland kind of pop from him.

If Michael wasn't so desperate to be the King of Pop, I could see him evolving into other genres such as Jazz.


'Bland' is not a word I could ever use in conjunction with 'Michael Jackson'. I mean he emotes like no other. Did he ever really abandon his 'soul'? There's 'Butterflies', Stranger in Moscow, Remember The Time, Lady In My Life. And as for other genres, he's one of few to have tapped into all genres - Soul, Pop, Rock. Well, he hasn't done Jazz as you say. I'm not a huge Jazz fan, so I don't care really.
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Reply #93 posted 07/21/07 6:50am

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mrsnet said:

whatsgoingon said:

That's the thing with Michael and his brothers, I think people forget where Michael started. He started as a Soul Man, or should I say Boy, through and through. He said so himself once in an interview when he was young, that he wanted to sing "Soul" and I truely believe that's how he saw himself up until 20, at least. Then he does Thriller becomes "King of Pop" then we get this bland kind of pop from him.

If Michael wasn't so desperate to be the King of Pop, I could see him evolving into other genres such as Jazz.


'Bland' is not a word I could ever use in conjunction with 'Michael Jackson'. I mean he emotes like no other. Did he ever really abandon his 'soul'? There's 'Butterflies', Stranger in Moscow, Remember The Time, Lady In My Life. And as for other genres, he's one of few to have tapped into all genres - Soul, Pop, Rock. Well, he hasn't done Jazz as you say. I'm not a huge Jazz fan, so I don't care really.


Up to thriller he still could sound organically soulful, and now and again even up to Invincible you still hear what use to come so naturally to him when he was younger, but those times have become rarer in more recent years. Most of his songs post thriller from Bad, Black and White to all those sappy childhood songs he started to sing in earnest from the Dangerous era onwards are just pure, bland, pop in my opinion.
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Reply #94 posted 07/21/07 8:06am

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you may call it bland, but what did you expect? songs like who is it, give in to me, will you be there, earth song, we've had enough, whatever happens, butterflies, stranger in mosccow, break of dawn, is it scary and so forth are anything but bland pop
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Reply #95 posted 07/21/07 8:16am

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alphastreet said:

you may call it bland, but what did you expect? songs like who is it, give in to me, will you be there, earth song, we've had enough, whatever happens, butterflies, stranger in mosccow, break of dawn, is it scary and so forth are anything but bland pop

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Reply #96 posted 07/21/07 8:24am

alphastreet

well earth song is better than sappy crappies like lost children
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Reply #97 posted 07/30/07 11:14pm

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IT ALL BEGINS AND ENDS WITH LOVE-JACKSON 5
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Reply #98 posted 07/31/07 11:29am

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Touch (although I think Michael was a little too young for this song)

Coming Home

She's Good
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Reply #99 posted 07/31/07 11:41am

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dannyd5050 said:

AlexdeParis said:

"It's Great to Be Here"

Two hits that are underrated:
"Mama's Pearl"
"Sugar Daddy"

Definately, "It's Great To Be Here". Also "We've Got Blue Skies" and "Petals".


I LOVE "It's Great To Be Here"! J5/The Jacksons have so many underrated songs.
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #100 posted 07/31/07 11:46am

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whatsgoingon said:

That's the thing with Michael and his brothers, I think people forget where Michael started. He started as a Soul Man, or should I say Boy, through and through. He said so himself once in an interview when he was young, that he wanted to sing "Soul" and I truely believe that's how he saw himself up until 20, at least. Then he does Thriller becomes "King of Pop" then we get this bland kind of pop from him.

If Michael wasn't so desperate to be the King of Pop, I could see him evolving into other genres such as Jazz.


"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #101 posted 07/31/07 1:06pm

Lovesexy82

Now this is a thread I can get with!
Man there are so many, I'm going to have to try and narrow it down somehow, but I think the most postively underrated J5 song is

Lookin' Through the Windows

Some close runners-up are:

Don't Say Goodbye Again
Forever Came Today
All I Do Is Think Of You
I Am Love
Get It Together
I Can't Quit Your Love
Maybe Tomorrow
How Funky is Your Chicken
Corner of the Sky
Love Gone Bad
It's Great To Be Here
Uppermost
Skywriter (maybe that's a stretch but it's still my cut)
Pride and Joy (Marvin Gaye Cover)
The Love I Saw in You Was A Mirage

Mike's Motown Solo cuts:
Dear Michael
Cinderella Stay Awhile
One Day in Your Life
Call On Me
Farewell, My Summer Love
To Make My Father Proud

Somebody stop me please.....
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Reply #102 posted 07/31/07 1:37pm

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Lovesexy82 said:

Now this is a thread I can get with!
Man there are so many, I'm going to have to try and narrow it down somehow, but I think the most postively underrated J5 song is

Lookin' Through the Windows

Some close runners-up are:

Don't Say Goodbye Again
Forever Came Today
All I Do Is Think Of You
I Am Love
Get It Together
I Can't Your Love
Maybe Tomorrow
How Funky is Your Chicken
Corner of the Sky
Love Gone Bad
It's Great To Be Here
Uppermost
Skywriter (maybe that's a stretch but it's still my cut)
Pride and Joy (Marvin Gaye Cover)
The Love I Saw in You Was A Mirage

Mike's Motown Solo cuts:
Dear Michael
Cinderella Stay Awhile
One Day in Your Life
Call On Me
Farewell, My Summer Love
To Make My Father Proud

Somebody stop me please.....


How can I forget Farewell My Summer Love, one of the most poignant songs ever.

Bye, bye
Don't Turn Around
Cos you might see me cry
Farewell My Summer Love,Farewell


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Reply #103 posted 07/31/07 3:18pm

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Almost There - Michael solo
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Reply #104 posted 07/31/07 5:24pm

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Reach In
To Know
I Betcha
The Love I saw In You Was Just A Mirage
Can I See You In The Morning

BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER...Jermaine is my favorite Jackson and he put it down on that song. worship
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #105 posted 08/01/07 1:43am

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It's Great To Be Here
The Wall

Hell, damn near the whole "Maybe Tomorrow" album. That album is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.
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Reply #106 posted 08/01/07 1:56am

P2daP

This thread has got me bustin out all my Jackson 5 albums!
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Reply #107 posted 08/01/07 10:28am

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blackguitaristz said:

It's Great To Be Here
The Wall

Hell, damn near the whole "Maybe Tomorrow" album. That album is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.

Oh, yeah, "The Wall". I love that song. You're right about the whole Maybe Tomorrow album. Classic!!
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Reply #108 posted 08/02/07 3:29am

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midnightmover said:

Thought I'd better add that it's the 1976 version of Moving Violation from their TV show that I really love. It's less overproduced than the official version and Michael sounds better. btw, the real story with the J5 is how criminally underrated their albums are. U2 and Nirvana have never recorded an album that can touch TTA, ABC, LTTW, etc. They are some of the best albums ever made imo, but because they weren't self written, weren't making any big statement, and were fronted by kids, they will never get their due.

P.S. Can I get some love for Corner Of The Sky up in here? I know I can't be alone in loving that.


I still think Looking Through The Windows, Dancing Machine, and Moving Violation are the best albums they recorded during their eight-year tenure at Motown. Moving Violation still gets the most edge from me because it's such a mature and tight album. I've also thought remaining J5 albums were filled with both hit singles and filler tracks.
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I haven't heard the Dancing Machine album, but I generally feel there was more filler on J5 albums as the years went by. At first they were a top priority act at Motown and so they got all the best material. As the years went by and they fell down the totem pole they got saddled with more and more filler. I think the MV album for instance is a pretty weak affair on the whole, whereas those earlier J5 albums were darn near perfect. They didn't leave Motown for nothing.
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Reply #109 posted 08/02/07 3:31am

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It's Great To Be Here
The Wall

Hell, damn near the whole "Maybe Tomorrow" album. That album is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.


I have this album on CD but I haven't listened to it yet.Looks like I'm in for a real treat,huh? wink
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