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Printablealphastreet said: paper said: Yep I think EMI lost alot of money throu the pay off to Mariah Carey and her failed Glitter project, thats why they diden't relase anymore singles. I still think with a $80 million record deal they should have kept her and gave her a chance. And I feel the same way about Janet EMI should have kept her. Universal are only gaining great artists, and EMI only piss them off. 
All For You along with Aaliyah was EMI's biggest money makers of the year of 2001. I always figured it was because of the mariah carey incident that all for you was cut short, which REALLY sucks for janet because the album sales were beginning to rise again after the HBO concert aired and it would have been a perfect time to launch come on get up or something as a single. janet's contract with Virgin/EMI was up, 20 YO was supposed to be her last album on that label, and I'm personally glad she's moved on cause they did a shitty ass job promoting her since velvet rope They give up to easily and don't do a good job. However they seem to do a good job promoting Kylie albums, but maybe thats because she's signed to EMI UK.  | |
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paper said: alphastreet said: I always figured it was because of the mariah carey incident that all for you was cut short, which REALLY sucks for janet because the album sales were beginning to rise again after the HBO concert aired and it would have been a perfect time to launch come on get up or something as a single. janet's contract with Virgin/EMI was up, 20 YO was supposed to be her last album on that label, and I'm personally glad she's moved on cause they did a shitty ass job promoting her since velvet rope They give up to easily and don't do a good job. However they seem to do a good job promoting Kylie albums, but maybe thats because she's signed to EMI UK. virgin wasn't a part of EMI until recently. I always thought they did a shitty job promoting lenny kravitz as well. One of the reasons they screwed up with Velvet Rope promotion may very well be from spending too much on promoting the spice girls haha | |
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Virgin was sold to EMI in 1992, thats a very long time.
They only seem to care about British signed artists prosably because its the only major record label owned by the Brits. Coldplay and Kylie both do well unlike Lenny and Janet. Maybe EMI US needs new mangament. [Edited 7/17/07 8:34am] | |
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sosgemini said: can i take this moment to crap on the missy elliot version of Sun Of A Gun?
 favorite track of that era 
"reeeeemix I'm doin beeeetter withoooutchooooo and I'm happy withooooutchooooo" because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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paper said: Virgin was sold to EMI in 1992, thats a very long time.
They only seem to care about British signed artists prosably because its the only major record label owned by the Brits. Coldplay and Kylie both do well unlike Lenny and Janet. Maybe EMI US needs new mangament. [Edited 7/17/07 8:34am] I had no clue they were a european label, that explains EVERYTHING!!!! Janet was never huge in europe, so now it makes no sense why she signed with them | |
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alphastreet said: paper said: Virgin was sold to EMI in 1992, thats a very long time.
They only seem to care about British signed artists prosably because its the only major record label owned by the Brits. Coldplay and Kylie both do well unlike Lenny and Janet. Maybe EMI US needs new mangament. [Edited 7/17/07 8:34am] I had no clue they were a european label, that explains EVERYTHING!!!! Janet was never huge in europe, so now it makes no sense why she signed with them Maybe Janet realized that the people that buy her albums were europop friendly she'd have a better chance, instead of focusing on the hiphop market. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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"All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question. | |
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VinnyM27 said: "All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question.
I really dug DJ and 20 YO. ISLAND LIFE and SPENDING TIME WITH YOU on Damita Jo was devine. To me NOTHING on ALL FOR YOU could touch those two songs. Again, with EVERY major artist there will be hits and misses. What some dig, others will protest, detest and the rest. I enjoyed DAMITA JO and 20 YO more that ALL FOR YOU. I wish her well with this next project. Goodness forbid if it doesn't do well, some will seek to crucify her eventhough allot of hot, out and about female artists' could only dream of having a music career for 25 years. Had that been some other female artist, it would've been a tremendous feat. But, since it's JANET it isn't worth a damn. | |
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VinnyM27 said: "All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question.
yeah I totally agree. Although DJ and 20 had some good songs too, all for you is the better album overall | |
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VinnyM27 said: "All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question.
A4U is a great summertime album. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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alphastreet said: VinnyM27 said: "All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question.
yeah I totally agree. Although DJ and 20 had some good songs too, all for you is the better album overall i think that's what separates the fans from the j-fams...if you think DJ or 20YO are better then All For You then you are a j-fam.  Space for sale... | |
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I really like Damita Jo (its more of a mix tape,
it shows what she can do) but not as much as All For You. 20YO I hardly listen to because it dosent feel like a Janet album, it has no interlues and it doesnt have any pop like tunes. Get It Out Me is the only track with a pop sound to it. I blame JD.  | |
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I have three All for you albums.... so serious.....LOLOL i have the edited, Unedited, and the special Limited edition DVD and CD |
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ehuffnsd said: VinnyM27 said: "All For You" is a good pop album and I think it pisses off fans becuase it is so pop and so light hearted after the heavy "Velvet Rope". I really dug AFY when it first came out but cooled on it a bit. Much stronger than both DJ and 20YO. No question.
A4U is a great summertime album. yeah both that and the janet. album sound great in spring and summer, I find myself listening to them often around this time every year. STCML wasn't a single I expected from all for you cause I thought trust a try would be a better choice and janet did too though virgin didn't think so. However it sounded sooo good in summer so that made up for it. I think my biggest problem with the CD back then was that I expected it to have those broken beats like aaliyah or timbaland with a futuristic vibe to it, but she played it safe for the most part though it did work wonders for her after all. alisa, I have the original and the limited edition/dvd [Edited 7/18/07 10:13am] | |
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"clouds in my coffee
cloooouds in my coffeeeee.." "you tell em Carly!"  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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DirtyChris said: "clouds in my coffee
cloooouds in my coffeeeee.." "you tell em Carly!" 
i seriously think that was one of her her must groundbreaking songs...carly's vocals are on fire....i totally saw a kick arse video with carly in it and then booom. here comes hefty hefty missy and she removes the best parts of the song.  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: DirtyChris said: "clouds in my coffee
cloooouds in my coffeeeee.." "you tell em Carly!"
i seriously think that was one of her her must groundbreaking songs...carly's vocals are on fire....i totally saw a kick arse video with carly in it and then booom. here comes hefty hefty missy and she removes the best parts of the song. "go on nah!"
I love her BG vocals here LOL and I love Missy's appearance that's what really made me like the song, was the remix... I'm a Miss E. STAN  [Edited 7/18/07 10:23am] because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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I used to sing clouds in my coffee all day and my dad thought i was cool for singing that since he loves you're so vain
I looove the video for son of a gun now but was a little disappointed with it when it came out cause it was so dark and janet was hardly dancing, i was waiting for her to bust some moves. [Edited 7/18/07 10:24am] | |
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Thats the track that made me like Carly and
'Someone to call my lover' got me intrested Erik Satie. I spoil them when I'm in love Given them what they dream of Sometimes it's not a good thing But I'm blind love that | |
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sosgemini said: alphastreet said: yeah I totally agree. Although DJ and 20 had some good songs too, all for you is the better album overall i think that's what separates the fans from the j-fams...if you think DJ or 20YO are better then All For You then you are a j-fam. I'm one of those folks! All For You is shammbled in parts and some of the songs don't work, but that doesn't mean it's a bad album.I'll admit there are some classic Janet stuff on there, but some of the poppy and dance stuff just doesn't stick to my bones. I still listen to that one in the spring and summer because it shows a fun, sexy, and chic side to Janet's personality and music. I think she played it too safe with AFY, though. I still don't understand why so many people thought Damita Jo was a complete mishap. I can listen to that album straight through (save about 3 tracks and the annoying interludes, sometimes!). Sure, it's freakish and horny, but Janet really showed her range on that album. She did rock ('Just A Little While'), a little smooth jazz ('Moist'), R&B ('title track', 'Spending Time With You'), dance ('Slolove', 'R&B Junkie'), and even pop ballads ('Thinking Bout My Ex', 'I Want You') Another thing I liked about DJ was that there was a better flow and she stuck to her guns more (even though there was one guest appearance). I still think DJ is one of her best albums. 20 Y.O. is a hit and miss, but it's more of a leaner effort and I still listen to it more than AFY. [Edited 7/18/07 11:10am] Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: sosgemini said: i think that's what separates the fans from the j-fams...if you think DJ or 20YO are better then All For You then you are a j-fam. I'm one of those folks! All For You is shammbled in parts and some of the songs don't work, but that doesn't mean it's a bad album.I'll admit there are some classic Janet stuff on there, but some of the poppy and dance stuff just doesn't stick to my bones. I still listen to that one in the spring and summer because it shows a fun, sexy, and chic side to Janet's personality and music. I think she played it too safe with AFY, though. I still don't understand why so many people thought Damita Jo was a complete mishap. I can listen to that album straight through (save about 3 tracks and the annoying interludes, sometimes!). Sure, it's freakish and horny, but Janet really showed her range on that album. She did rock ('Just A Little While'), a little smooth jazz ('Moist'), R&B ('title track', 'Spending Time With You'), dance ('Slolove', 'R&B Junkie'), and even pop ballads ('Thinking Bout My Ex', 'I Want You') Another thing I liked about DJ was that there was a better flow and she stuck to her guns more (even though there was one guest appearance). I still think DJ is one of her best albums. 20 Y.O. is a hit and miss, but it's more of a leaner effort and I still listen to it more than AFY. [Edited 7/18/07 11:10am] janet went for an r&b/hip hop sound on damita jo that would have easily fit in with radio had the album been promoted properly, but sometimes the album feels rushed and there are several tracks that could have been left off. There are, however, a lot of songs on there I do like although as a whole album I'm not so sure it flows well | |
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I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. 
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ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. I didn't really think of all for you as a concept album, other than the ups and downs of love, as janet put it do you believe you aint right was about tina landon like many fans believe? I totally do | |
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alphastreet said: silverchild said: I'm one of those folks! All For You is shammbled in parts and some of the songs don't work, but that doesn't mean it's a bad album.I'll admit there are some classic Janet stuff on there, but some of the poppy and dance stuff just doesn't stick to my bones. I still listen to that one in the spring and summer because it shows a fun, sexy, and chic side to Janet's personality and music. I think she played it too safe with AFY, though. I still don't understand why so many people thought Damita Jo was a complete mishap. I can listen to that album straight through (save about 3 tracks and the annoying interludes, sometimes!). Sure, it's freakish and horny, but Janet really showed her range on that album. She did rock ('Just A Little While'), a little smooth jazz ('Moist'), R&B ('title track', 'Spending Time With You'), dance ('Slolove', 'R&B Junkie'), and even pop ballads ('Thinking Bout My Ex', 'I Want You') Another thing I liked about DJ was that there was a better flow and she stuck to her guns more (even though there was one guest appearance). I still think DJ is one of her best albums. 20 Y.O. is a hit and miss, but it's more of a leaner effort and I still listen to it more than AFY. [Edited 7/18/07 11:10am] janet went for an r&b/hip hop sound on damita jo that would have easily fit in with radio had the album been promoted properly, but sometimes the album feels rushed and there are several tracks that could have been left off. There are, however, a lot of songs on there I do like although as a whole album I'm not so sure it flows well Its's a mix tape this is were she shows her infulence
from other genres and show what shes capable of. Nothing flows with each other its a bunch of good tracks. I think she is one of the few female aritsts who can do rock, jazz, rnb, pop tinged tracks and do it very well connecting to diffrent age groups. My friend for example likes rnb\slow jams and listens to 'My baby' and 'I want you' while i listen to 'All nite' and 'just a little while'. She can reach the 14-40's. [Edited 7/18/07 11:57am] | |
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alphastreet said: ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. I didn't really think of all for you as a concept album, other than the ups and downs of love, as janet put it do you believe you aint right was about tina landon like many fans believe? I totally do i'm not saying concept just that it follows an arc. not certain what it is about could be tina or the chef that told everyone he got diet pills in his name for her. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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janet was always musically diverse, but I mostly saw damita jo as an r&b album with hip hop and jazz influences and just a little while. I think the janet. and velvet rope albums are her most diverse | |
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sosgemini said: ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on.
for real? yup "Intro" – 1:00 "You Ain't Right" – 4:32 falls out with friend "All for You" – 5:30 "2way4you" (Interlude)" – 0:19 "Come on Get Up" – 4:47 meeting someone at a club "When We Oooo" – 4:34 "China Love" – 4:36 "Love Scene (Ooh Baby)" – 4:16 "Would You Mind" – 5:31 falling in love "Lame (Interlude)" – 0:11 "Trust a Try" – 5:16 trouble in relationship "Clouds (Interlude)" – 0:19 "Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)" (with Carly Simon) – 5:56 "Truth" – 6:45 "Theory (Interlude)" – 0:26 breaking up "Someone to Call My Lover" – 4:32 looking again "Feels So Right" – 4:42 "Doesn't Really Matter" – 4:25 "Better Days" – 5:05 "Outro" – 0:09 moving on much like janet. was in the day in the life begining in the morning ending with sweet dreams and velvet rope was an exploration of emotions all for you was looking at relationships. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. Is it me or does Damita Jo tell a story about a sluty, yet sensitive prostitute in most parts of the album? For example: The title track has her talking about her personality, what she doesn't tolerate and what she likes to do then it goes into Sexhibition and Strawberry Bounce, which talks about the thing she wants to do to her man. Then she finds the man of her dreams and settles down with him on Spending Time With You. [Edited 7/18/07 12:17pm] [Edited 7/18/07 12:17pm] Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: ehuffnsd said: I like A4U because it was the last of her story albums
It starts with her falling out with a friend, going clubbing, meeting someone falling in love, breaking up and moving on. Is it me or does Damita Jo tell a story about a sluty, yet sensitive prostitute in most parts of the album? For example: The title track has her talking about her personality, what she doesn't tolerate and what she likes to do then it goes into Sexhibition and Strawberry Bounce, which talks about the thing she wants to do to her man. Then she finds the man of her dreams and settles down with him on Spending Time With You. maybe. my main problem with DJ is it doesn't flow well at all. it seems very choppy and prevents me from listening to it all the way. aside from the first 3 tracks all nite and slo love the album is a mystery to me. i like 20YO because it actully flows well but it to me is just a collection of songs with no story. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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