alphastreet said:

The recent Billboard interview.

DawnD said:

I love velvet rope too, A LOT! I remember people dogging that album too, but that could have been because of teen pop and hip hop all over the place cause they were feeling her once they gave her a chance. I also remember a lot of people owning the together again or i get lonely singles. I hear people call it a classic these days though, I was in a store the other and spying on girls talking about janet when passing her CD's and they were praising VR
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If Janet had trimmed the fat from the Damita Jo album, and the whole SuperBoob thing had never happened, the album would be looked on with a lot more regard. Unlike 20 YO, DJ struck a nice balance between the upbeat dance jams and the midtempo R&B cuts. I think 'All Nite', 'R&B Junkie', 'Slo Love', and 'Put Your Hands On' were all top-notch material, as were 'I Want You', 'Thinking About My Ex', and 'Like You Don't Love Me'. Couple that with 'Just a Little While', which I really like, and you have an incredible album. Even stuff like 'Moist', 'Strawberry Bounce' 'Island Life' and 'Sexhibition' were all above-average cuts.

I really couldn't find too much on 20 YO that was up to the caliber of any of the aforementioned tracks. No matter what people think about JJ and TL, they still were great "executive producers" on DJ. With as much success as JD has had in the R&B world, he has no idea of what makes a great Janet record.

I think if Janet tried to do something more like the good stuff from DJ (and cut out a lot of the interludes and sex nonsense), she could have another hit record. I'm less sure that she'll do anything like that, though. And please, Janet, put away your boobs and vag during the album promotion. Thanks...

I think damita jo also deserved to be a bigger hit. All Nite had KILLER choreography and had the r&b and hip hop sound people wanted to hear on all for you

Timmy84 said:

Mariah's been in the game too long not to have learned how to command some stage presence, she ain't no newbie. What I saw gave me the impression that the audience should have been highly impressed with her posing half naked, like half the audience wasn't half naked themselves; I realize she been working out and stuff, but coming from a straight woman born, raised and living in southern cali I saw nothing I couldn't have seen a few blocks away. She sounded horrible which made me think she was having substance problems, she did a whole lot of current covers which may be what is on her current album which is sad, and the rappers took up most of the show, not just like an opening act and then a filler while she changed I mean literally they took up a large percentage of the show.

Cinnie said:

I'm taking concert vs. album, the whole is this just a bunch of production or can this person really belt it out live. I am now convince that Mariah is just a big studio production. Maybe she didn't use to be, but now, I don't know.

Unless Janet makes a truly inspired album that takes her in a bold,new direction,she won't be making a "comeback".If she were smart,she would run as far as she can from JD and LA Reid They're trying to turn her into a hip,urban princess,but there are already too many other young ladies filling that role right now.Janet is no Ciara or Beyonce and she shouldn't have to be.

morningsong said:

The concert I went to didn't have any unknown rappers in their place... she had like 3 huge screens with the rapper in her video synced up to the show.

Cinnie said:

Nope. Maybe for you. But, it was ALL good for me.

morningsong said:

Umm, the only rappers that showed up during Mariah's set were at the Madison Square Garden show. Motherfucker you didn't go to Mariah's concert. I'm not even going to bother busting you out on the other iffy shit you posted. Unknown rappers? Since when is Jay-Z, P Diddy, Sean Paul, and Busta Rhymes unkonwn. The only rap oriented thing Mariah had in her set outside of the Madison Square show was Clue djing. Weren't no motherfuckin rappers.

Cinnie said:

Because that's how all the concerts were except for her Madison Square Garden show. This fucker up in here lying about going.

jayaredee said:

janet did get people back on the dancefloor with "all nite" and "so excited". They may have been commerical flops but the clubs embraced them.

yeah I know about the club thing, I know TONS of people who also loved all nite don't stop and it was a hott track, but so excited took awhile to grow on me cause it's too overproduced IMO, the video and choreography made me warm up to the song in fact

roundables said:

Can only vouch for what I saw in my town. Believe it or not, i don't care, doesn't improve or take away from the quality of my life. I've never seen the woman in concert before, not even on t.v. so I haven't a clue what she normally does. The show was free to me, so it wasn't any skin off my nose. All I know is on that day, the stage was full of unknown rappers & DJs (according to the response of other people attending the show) and it was a very disappointing show. As I said before maybe it was just that day.

I used to be a mariah fan.... from Butterfly to Rainbow and little bit of glitter.... I will say that when i was a true fan... I liked her during her Butterfly period.. because she seem liked a real low key person.... and she didn't seem like she was trying hard at everything... she was just doing her thing.... Now she tries to put her image first before her music... trying to look like a spoiled air head who has 50 person entourage who does everything for her.. and she is too spoiled/weak to do anything... OH yeah and she COMPLAINS ABOUT EVERYTHING...
During her butterfly tour.. she was more of a real person.. instead of some ego superstar.....
And her last album only had 3 or 4 decent songs on it....

When i was a serious Janet Jackson fan... I was sooo crazy over janet... so crazy.. everyone knew i loved her... i have all her albums from her first 1984 Janet to 20 Y.O... every album.... I liked how janet just created music that made you want to dance or relax... and her videos were amazing... She was just a Creative artist.. and her music wasn't just one genre.. she did all kinds of music...

Now janet ONLY talks about sex... every magazine cover she is half naked... her videos look the same... Like "All night Don't stop" looks like "So excited"
She is making herself look boring... and limited to the same old stuff...
NOw i know what I liked about her... She always seem to do New things... with music, and hair, styles....

but now its the same old stuff over again.... Always talk about sex, always half naked.... AFY and DJ basically had the same album cover...

roundables said:

That is very rude and unecessary to call this lady that... I dont' know if your a crazed fan... but if your going to call people disgusting names like that.. you have some serious issues... not just anger but mental


and I actually believe her... she has no reason to lie

TotalAlisa said:

I was a huuuuuge janet fan too(well huge jackson fan since I think michael is way more talented, but she was doing awesome things in the 90's) , everyone knew it and I have everything and though I still love her I'm more down to earth about it and feel as though these days she's holding back and could do so much better. I don't agree with the whole sex thing either, I'm a big girl and can handle it but she's getting very repetitive with it. Some fans say she's janet jackson and can do whatever she wants, but you'd think she wants to repair her image after superbowl though it doesn't seem that way. I was soooo disappointed with call on me, hardly a comeback single.

as for mariah I always liked her and my favourite albums of hers are daydream and butterfly, she had some nice album tracks on rainbow as well but I thought she was such a bimbo during glitter though I bought the album anyways and liked some of the songs a lot. I thought the loverboy video was so stupid and she looked like a joke though, it almost kept me from buying the album but then i heard never too far, loved it and bought the album since I love 80's music anyways and was curious about how mariah would sound singing it, but the ballads on there are my favourite

I don't like it when she goes all hip hop though she does have some good tracks here and there, I prefer her uptempo songs on her own, and her ballads, those rappers do her no justice though it worked out well in the fantasy and always be my baby remixes and the song breakdown. I remember loving the mimi album a lot though, I'm going to listen to it in a bit and see if I still do

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Oh, well. I think she's a great artist who simply tries new things and gets hell for it. Granted, either than the sex stuff she does try new things and doesn't use the same formula in terms of music. But, she's still relevant reguardless. She can't be too shitty being compared to female artists' almost twice her age. Never could understand that, but it is what it is. Again, i wish her well with her new material. Eventhough, she seems to somewho piss allot of folks off with either her music, lyrics, current boyfriend or her appearance she's STILL (apparently) one of the most intriguing artists' that's out.

DawnD said:

I mean, the female artists' she's compared to, JANET'S almost twice their age.
I look forward to what she has to offer and wish her well in the process.

jayaredee said:

Interesting point. If Janet came out with "Umbrella" or "My Goodies" Those songs would NOT have becomes hits. And there would be calls everywhere for her to retire from the business.

well i was never a mariah fan and i always felt she was a studio artist, i have never seen her kill a live performance, people talk up her 'great voice' but i've heard her drop the ball live plenty of times (she is no whitney), as for janet not being able to sing, no she dont have a strong voice but i like her voice for her songs,people like to claim janet got huge based on her dancing but its funny some of her biggest and best songs are the mid-tempo and she makes great ballads.the problem with jd being involved with janet's music now is he dont seem to know alot about her older stuff. jd is into r&b/hiphop ONLY, he trashed damita jo calling it dance music, well janet has always done dance tracks, as well as pop, r&b, and even a lil rock.jd does not know how to produce a multi-genre artist. mariah has been makin the same boring,predictable songs her entire career and it works for her. i hope la reid allows janet to be herself and cater to her fans, not try to get the 106&park crowd.

lowkey said:

lololol... even if mariah doesnt sound as good live.. as she does on her albums she still can sing.... I agree about the lover boy video.. when i first saw it... I was like who is that Blonde bimbo in mariahs video.. and then 2 seconds later i realized it was mariah.. and after that... I just didn't like or really take her serious any more...
mariah is no way a performer just a singer... she does not command the stage like janet... and not even beyonce ( I don't even like beyonce but i will give her some credit)... a lot of times she looks unsure and wants to see if the audience or fans are giving her support... but beyonce and janet... just go on stage and just kill it... When i watch Velvet rope and All for you tour... it always amazes me.... WOWOWOW...


I think Janet needs to try something new other then sex... and stay away from JD and his hip-hop sound.... Im 21 years old.. and im already tired of hip-hop... it sounds immature...and today artist lack quality that they used to have during the 80's and 90's... Why would janet want to sound like Ciara or Chris brown... she is a mega star and grown woman.... Her AFY album and Velvet rope album was mature and fun at the same time... it was very age appropriate....

mariah performs best when she does ballads, and not when she's trying to be a hip hop star.