skyecute said:

Exactly and most MJ fans who believe that he's innocent actually know a lot more about those cases than the general public. If more people just used common sense they would see that those cases don't even add up.

1)What pedophille molests children only ONCE every 10 years? Going by the logic of some people, MJ should get ready to strike again in 2013, huh? . I mean it doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.

Correct, considering the fact that Mikes whole organazation and safe haven has been coming down with all these law suits, i would think more children would step up, but non have surfaced

2)Pedophille's normally seek out there victims. In the case of MJ, both of those accusers families are the ones who sought out Michael Jackson not the other way around. And both of those families just happened to be greedy, lying, money grubbers and oppurtunists.

Correct again

3)The mother of the accuser in the 2003 case accused her husband 12 years earlier of molesting their daughter and trying to hold her and her kids hostage, then years later she accuses MJ of doing the same thing to her son? Come on, I'm not buying this for a second.

Yah it's pretty much known that the mother was pretty much out of her mind, Even MJ's biggest skeptics say that the case was swill to begin with


4)The father in that 1993 case actually helped to write a book with his brother called "Michael Jackson was My lover" which is a disgusting and filthy book that has since been banned in the U.S. about his son's relationship with MJ. Now what parent would try to profit off of something like that?

Evan was generally looking out for a fortune, His main motivation was money ever since he went to michael for funding for a screen play, which michael denied.
He was generally a bad dude.
June Chandler, Jordy's mother still stands by her ground saying Michael never touched jordy.

5)Why did Jordan Chandler refuse to testify in the trial against MJ? And why does he have a best friend who is a huge MJ fan? I mean you'd think he wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who likes Michael period.

Jordy's pretty much confused these days. His father filled him up with Sodium Amytal. So he honestly doesn't know what really happened...
I think it's best that he just forget about it, that or make amends with MJ.
Jordy divorced himself from his father and is living by himself.
I dunno but i know that he's probably got alot of demons
that he needs to sort out, i feel for him.
I mean absolutely none of this adds up to me.

skyecute said:

Exactly and most MJ fans who believe that he's innocent actually know a lot more about those cases than the general public. If more people just used common sense they would see that those cases don't even add up.

1)What pedophille molests children only ONCE every 10 years? Going by the logic of some people, MJ should get ready to strike again in 2013, huh? . I mean it doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.

***What pedophile announces to the world that they love children and allow them to share his bed? Most pedophiles would try to hide that fact. Michael knew that he had nothing to hide and that is the very reason that he has been so open about his love for children. The people who were/are involved in this conspiracy used the one thing against him that they could. Btw, 99.9% of your pedophiles are your average looking "Joe", daddy, uncle or next door neighbor. The ones that I have heard about and read about don't look anything like Michael.

2)Pedophille's normally seek out there victims. In the case of MJ, both of those accusers families are the ones who sought out Michael Jackson not the other way around. And both of those families just happened to be greedy, lying, money grubbers and oppurtunists.

***Exactly, both of these families sought out Michael. His kindess and generosity is the thing that these people took advantage of.

3)The mother of the accuser in the 2003 case accused her husband 12 years earlier of molesting their daughter and trying to hold her and her kids hostage, then years later she accuses MJ of doing the same thing to her son? Come on, I'm not buying this for a second.

***This same mother also sought out the exact same CIVIL lawyer, Larry Feldman, that the 1993 accuser was involved with. Out of all the thousands of lawyers in California, it was no coincedence that she happened to seek out the same lawyer AND the same therapist. Btw, she did this months before the false allegations even occured.

4)The father in that 1993 case actually helped to write a book with his brother called "Michael Jackson was My lover" which is a disgusting and filthy book that has since been banned in the U.S. about his son's relationship with MJ. Now what parent would try to profit off of something like that?

***What parent would call his supposedly "molested" son the "lover" of his supposed "molester"? There is a tape that was played on every radio and TV station in the USA and around the world.This was a conversation between the accuser's father and his step-father. The step-father is the one who turned over this tape to MJ's private detective and the police department. Evan Chandler, the father of the accused said:"If I go through with this I win big." The step-father asked him if he cared about his son's, Jordan, feelings. Evan replied:" I don't care who gets hurt." The police refused to file extortion charges against the father. The police also refused to file criminal charges against Michael and went straight for civil charges. Why did the father refuse to allow this case to go to court? The answer is he wanted MONEY and nothing else. MJ's lawyers, lead by the late Johnny Cochran and his record label Sony a advised him to settle.


5)Why did Jordan Chandler refuse to testify in the trial against MJ? And why does he have a best friend who is a huge MJ fan? I mean you'd think he wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who likes Michael period.

***IF Michael had really molested Jordan Chandler, he could have testified against Michael and STILL kept his money. However, he knew that Mesereua, MJ's attorney, would have ripped his fake allegations apart on the witness stand. Mez was also ready to bring in Jordan's best friend, who would have testified that Jordan told him that Michael had never molested him. The prosecution didn't want Jordan to testify and did everything that they could to keep him from coming in. They even claimed that he had left the country.

I mean absolutely none of this adds up to me.

CHIC0 said:

RIGHT CLICK
SAVED!

lilgish said:

Well that's what I am trying to say. I am not talking about the most recent article about him "Living in filth", I am talking about topics about MJ in general; they are usually started by MJ either to big him up or to still make him seem relevant(which he is in a way). But then you have the fans like Skycute whose only real mission here is to defend MJ anytime she/he feels someone is criticising MJ (although I do get some of her/his points about the media) and to blame the media for all Michael woes, even though his own actions are part of the reasons why the media treat him shabbily.
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Then it's youtube at that.....I hate youtube when it comes to comments.

When Prince did "Best of You".....I went to the Foo Fighters's myspace and there were plenty of die hards saying that they hated it and Prince ruined it.....so yeah, it's the same with any die hard fanbase.

AnckSuNamun said:

Yep, nothing but a bunch of keyboard gangstas. Always talking smack(a lot of it racist) if you like/don't like a particular artist. It's easy talking sh!t online - say it to a person's face.

the current crop of MJ fans have made me dislike Michael, which is silly, because Michael is one of my favorites. I'm an MJ fan naturally, but these crazies are dumb as all ish; mentally handicapped individuals.
The final straw and the reason for this thread was some of their responses to Chris Cornell's brilliant cover of Billie Jean. MJ fans are on youtube talking about "MJ's version is better" "He (Cornell) ruined it".....

even if you don't like the cover, why put a negative spin on it, accept it for what it is and move on.

AnckSuNamun said:

Having heard Dave Navarro do that song on Live Earth I can understand his fans' reaction. His version was way better. I'd never heard it before the Superbowl and though I liked P's version (especially the solos), it did expose his vocal limitations. On the other hand Navarro's version the other night was fucking unbelievable, so I can understand his fans being underwhelmed with P's tribute, although P's Superbowl performance overall was great, especially All Along The Wathchtower (caught me totally by surprise), and PR. Hell, it kicked holy shit out of MJ's predictable lip synched performance 14 years earlier.

CHIC0 said:

OMG, I just noticed the jacket this fool is carrying

midnightmover said:

YET mj's is still the most watched superbowl ever and prince is 2nd...

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the current crop of MJ fans have made me dislike Michael, which is silly, because Michael is one of my favorites.

lilgish said:

your getting so heated over that ...geez it's just an opinion,forget about it

AnckSuNamun said:

Having heard Dave Navarro do that song on Live Earth I can understand his fans' reaction. His version was way better. I'd never heard it before the Superbowl and though I liked P's version (especially the solos), it did expose his vocal limitations. On the other hand Navarro's version the other night was fucking unbelievable, so I can understand his fans being underwhelmed with P's tribute, although P's Superbowl performance overall was great, especially All Along The Wathchtower (caught me totally by surprise), and PR. Hell, it kicked holy shit out of MJ's predictable lip synched performance 14 years earlier.

EmbattledWarrior said:

And your point is...?

midnightmover said:

You mean Grohl? I personally liked FF's original version better too.....just like when they did "Darling Nikki". Imo, no version is gonna top Prince, but I didn't think their version was terrible either. Hardcore Prince fans gave Foo Fighters hell over it.

mimi07 said:

I'm over it. Go MJ

midnightmover said:

Really didn't have one...
was just trying to be contrary...

AnckSuNamun said:

Wow, I heard Prince's cover of "Best of You" and liked it then I heard the Foo Fighters' version.....DAMN! I almosted deleted Prince's version off of my computer. Their version was so passionate and intense, I almost broke in tears because I could relate and feel the emotion. That moment, I became a fan of Foo Fighters

I remember a time when I was a casual Prince fan but I hated his arrogance and attitude. I came on the org to see what it was like. I saw a MJ thread, so being a MJ fan I checked it out. I didn't come back to the org for a couple of months

One thing I don't like is the whole generalization of MJ fans. They're not all crazy and loony. If you look at the videos of the fans who wait at the courthouse or outside of his hotel room with banners are usually THE SAME MUTHAFUCKAS! Matter of fact, it's gotten to the point these days, it's gotten on Michael's nerves but they believe he always wants them there. Then why did he have his people tell you dumbasses to be quiet or to leave?!

EmbattledWarrior said:

And your point is...?

bboy87 said:

To compare how they were feeling to how Michael was feeling, you would've thought Mike had appreciated them twaning all over the place but at the end of the trial, he was all like "eh whatever "

And I just noticed what dude was wearing too!
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Both Michael and Prince's Super Bowl performances were enjoyable IMHO. I don't think either or were better than the other.

Timmy84 said:

I was just 7 years old when Michael hit the superbowl. I was amazed. I taped the whole performance (for some reason the "dangerous" VHS only shows the "heal the world" segment?). Anyway, i still have the thing, and even though he lyp-synchs throughout the whole thing, its still a great specticle. It takes balls to just stand there, for about 2 minutes straight, posing in freeze frame, at a football game. Love it.

thesexofit said:

i love when he does that the hype is crazy
[Edited 7/9/07 21:56pm]

mimi07 said:

Yeah, Michael was at the top of his game then. He was still Michael Jackson: megastar. Every kid I knew loved him then and wanted to dance like him. Good times.....