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Reply #120 posted 06/13/07 10:57pm

FarrahMoan

ReggaeQueen said:

Orgers hate every other artist that is not PRINCE!!!! Sometimes I wonder how a sensible discussion can ever be had on this board


No disrespect, but that's total and utter bullshit. confused There are musical artists that I could name that would give "Prince" a run for his money, even on his best day. I'm a hardcore "fam" by the way.
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Reply #121 posted 06/14/07 4:37am

SoulAlive

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There's no double standard. Reasons why I dislike Beyonce?

1.She's EVERYWHERE. I can't turn on the tv, pick up a magazine, or go to a record store without having to encounter her or her "music." There's a difference between promotion and being shoved down everyone's throat, and B is certainly the latter. Yeah she's hot, but like a chick you see way too much of when you don't want to, that hotness fades.


I completely agree lol I think Beyonce is talented and occasionally,she even comes out with a decent song.But I'm just sick of seeing and hearing her all the time!! I can't even watch a damn awards show without her being on it,stealing the spotlight.I was thrilled when Jennifer Hudson won that Oscar for "Dreamgirls".It was nice to FINALLY see someone else getting some recognition and attention for a change.Under normal circumstances,that project would have been dominated by Beyonce,as usual.
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Reply #122 posted 06/14/07 5:00am

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FarrahMoan said:

ReggaeQueen said:

Orgers hate every other artist that is not PRINCE!!!! Sometimes I wonder how a sensible discussion can ever be had on this board


No disrespect, but that's total and utter bullshit. confused There are musical artists that I could name that would give "Prince" a run for his money, even on his best day. I'm a hardcore "fam" by the way.

name'em besides terance trent darby and jesse johnson
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Reply #123 posted 06/14/07 5:57am

FarrahMoan

mirrorbestfriend said:

FarrahMoan said:



No disrespect, but that's total and utter bullshit. confused There are musical artists that I could name that would give "Prince" a run for his money, even on his best day. I'm a hardcore "fam" by the way.

name'em besides terance trent darby and jesse johnson


Teena Marie, Steve Vai, Jimi Hendrix (Although he's not alive), oh and how could I have almost forgotten his guitar idol, "CARLOS FREAKIN' SANTANA"!!!
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Reply #124 posted 06/14/07 6:00am

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FarrahMoan said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


name'em besides terance trent darby and jesse johnson


Teena Marie, Steve Vai, Jimi Hendrix (Although he's not alive), oh and how could I have almost forgotten his guitar idol, "CARLOS FREAKIN' SANTANA"!!!

all of them do one thing not multi talented
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Reply #125 posted 06/14/07 6:05am

FarrahMoan

mirrorbestfriend said:

FarrahMoan said:



Teena Marie, Steve Vai, Jimi Hendrix (Although he's not alive), oh and how could I have almost forgotten his guitar idol, "CARLOS FREAKIN' SANTANA"!!!

all of them do one thing not multi talented


Well, they all challenge him in some area, at least. Oh, "Stevie Wonder" is multi-talented by the way. That was the first guy I know to have all of the talent in the world, except for maybe dancing and the showmanship to get people on their feet along with him like "James Brown" and of course, '80's-'00 "Prince".
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Reply #126 posted 06/14/07 11:37am

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VelvetJ said:

The thing that annoys me the most about Beyonce' is the fact so many people think she is a great singer. I know it's all about opinion but Aretha, Patti, Gladys, Roberta, Whitney, and Jennifer Holiday are/were great singers. Can Beyonce' hold a tune, yes, but IMO, she is no more of a vocalist than Tamar. In fact I think Tamar has a stronger voice technically. Straight up seriously, I don't think Beyonce' could survive American Idol, yet she is placed on this high pedestal. IMO, she oversings to cover up. Let's face it,Beyonce got to be where she is because of the way she looks, which is another area I think she is terribly overrated ( but then again, I think Halle Berry is overrated as well. I just think she pretty. I don't get the whole most beautiful woman in the world thing with her). People thinking Beyonce is a great talent just confounds me, and it annoys me she will be in the history books.


I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you. Beyonce can sing. I don't see how you can say she cannot sing. The Aretha's Glady's and Jennifer Holidays are phenomenal singers and its hard to compare anyone to them. But all in all, Beyonce has a great voice. I personally just think her voice is wasted on songs like Check On It and most of the songs on her B-Day album.

Janet, Rihanna, Ciara, Britney, those are the ones who can't sing.


I never said Beyonce could not sing, just like I never said she wasn't pretty. I even acknowledged she could hold a tune. I just think she is terribly overrated vocally, as well as in looks ( however I will admit her body is crazy). Beyonce is placed on such a high pedestal and it annoys me as well as confuses me.

While I would not place her in a Janet, Ciara, Britney category, IMO there is nothing special about her voice to warrant the pedestal she is placed on. While not "freak of nature" incredible singers, certain vocalist such as Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Angela Winbush, Deniece Williams, and CoCo of SWV had something special and ALL had the ability to make my mouth drop open. And the annoying thing is Beyonce will more than likely supplant those women and be placed in a "great" category. That annoys me.

Really not trying to change the subject and turn this into a versus type situation, but when I hear Jennifer Hudson, it sounds like that girl was born with it. When I hear Beyonce, it sounds like it was taught to her. However we know Beyonce will get the biggest props.

Again, I am not saying Beyonce can't sing, I just think she is overrated, not to mention overexposed wink.
[Edited 6/14/07 11:40am]
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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Reply #127 posted 06/14/07 12:32pm

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VelvetJ said:

wonder505 said:



I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you. Beyonce can sing. I don't see how you can say she cannot sing. The Aretha's Glady's and Jennifer Holidays are phenomenal singers and its hard to compare anyone to them. But all in all, Beyonce has a great voice. I personally just think her voice is wasted on songs like Check On It and most of the songs on her B-Day album.

Janet, Rihanna, Ciara, Britney, those are the ones who can't sing.


I never said Beyonce could not sing, just like I never said she wasn't pretty. I even acknowledged she could hold a tune. I just think she is terribly overrated vocally, as well as in looks ( however I will admit her body is crazy). Beyonce is placed on such a high pedestal and it annoys me as well as confuses me.

While I would not place her in a Janet, Ciara, Britney category, IMO there is nothing special about her voice to warrant the pedestal she is placed on. While not "freak of nature" incredible singers, certain vocalist such as Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Angela Winbush, Deniece Williams, and CoCo of SWV had something special and ALL had the ability to make my mouth drop open. And the annoying thing is Beyonce will more than likely supplant those women and be placed in a "great" category. That annoys me.

Really not trying to change the subject and turn this into a versus type situation, but when I hear Jennifer Hudson, it sounds like that girl was born with it. When I hear Beyonce, it sounds like it was taught to her. However we know Beyonce will get the biggest props.

Again, I am not saying Beyonce can't sing, I just think she is overrated, not to mention overexposed wink.
[Edited 6/14/07 11:40am]


y u hatin?
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Reply #128 posted 06/14/07 1:44pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

VelvetJ said:



I never said Beyonce could not sing, just like I never said she wasn't pretty. I even acknowledged she could hold a tune. I just think she is terribly overrated vocally, as well as in looks ( however I will admit her body is crazy). Beyonce is placed on such a high pedestal and it annoys me as well as confuses me.

While I would not place her in a Janet, Ciara, Britney category, IMO there is nothing special about her voice to warrant the pedestal she is placed on. While not "freak of nature" incredible singers, certain vocalist such as Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Angela Winbush, Deniece Williams, and CoCo of SWV had something special and ALL had the ability to make my mouth drop open. And the annoying thing is Beyonce will more than likely supplant those women and be placed in a "great" category. That annoys me.

Really not trying to change the subject and turn this into a versus type situation, but when I hear Jennifer Hudson, it sounds like that girl was born with it. When I hear Beyonce, it sounds like it was taught to her. However we know Beyonce will get the biggest props.

Again, I am not saying Beyonce can't sing, I just think she is overrated, not to mention overexposed wink.
[Edited 6/14/07 11:40am]


y u hatin?


I'm not hatin', no one mentioned 50 Cent in this thread. wink
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Reply #129 posted 06/14/07 6:52pm

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I think a lot of the animosity toward beyonce too stems from the fallout
between her dad and 2 of the original members of the group latoya luckett
and letavia roberson. A lot of fans felt the girls were uneccessarily dumped
from the group for no reason and were a part of the group before daddy knowles
came on board as manager. Also people feel that his goal all along was to make beyonce a star even at the expense of the other members. It seemed that kelly rowland was the only original member that was cool with the way daddy knowles did business and was and is always willing to be second bannana to daddy knowles little precious beyonce.
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Reply #130 posted 06/14/07 8:16pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

FarrahMoan said:



Teena Marie, Steve Vai, Jimi Hendrix (Although he's not alive), oh and how could I have almost forgotten his guitar idol, "CARLOS FREAKIN' SANTANA"!!!

all of them do one thing not multi talented


Are you KingKrazy/qtgangsta18?!?

If not, are you related to him in anyway?

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Reply #131 posted 06/17/07 7:31am

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VelvetJ said:

wonder505 said:



I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you. Beyonce can sing. I don't see how you can say she cannot sing. The Aretha's Glady's and Jennifer Holidays are phenomenal singers and its hard to compare anyone to them. But all in all, Beyonce has a great voice. I personally just think her voice is wasted on songs like Check On It and most of the songs on her B-Day album.

Janet, Rihanna, Ciara, Britney, those are the ones who can't sing.


I never said Beyonce could not sing, just like I never said she wasn't pretty. I even acknowledged she could hold a tune. I just think she is terribly overrated vocally, as well as in looks ( however I will admit her body is crazy). Beyonce is placed on such a high pedestal and it annoys me as well as confuses me.

While I would not place her in a Janet, Ciara, Britney category, IMO there is nothing special about her voice to warrant the pedestal she is placed on. While not "freak of nature" incredible singers, certain vocalist such as Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Angela Winbush, Deniece Williams, and CoCo of SWV had something special and ALL had the ability to make my mouth drop open. And the annoying thing is Beyonce will more than likely supplant those women and be placed in a "great" category. That annoys me.

Really not trying to change the subject and turn this into a versus type situation, but when I hear Jennifer Hudson, it sounds like that girl was born with it. When I hear Beyonce, it sounds like it was taught to her. However we know Beyonce will get the biggest props.

Again, I am not saying Beyonce can't sing, I just think she is overrated, not to mention overexposed wink.
[Edited 6/14/07 11:40am]

Trust me she would ether wipe the floor with the artests you have listed or give them something to think about! Go and see her live you will change your mind.
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Reply #132 posted 06/17/07 7:43pm

Scorpion

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omgosh... now ppl wanna give Beyoncè credit for Prince's comeback?... k what are y'all smokin'? smoker .. NO REAL MUSICIAN .. needs anybody else to 'boost' their career ... they 'shine' on their own .. ... and ppl need to remember .. back in 2004.. the whole Prince/Beyoncè thing happened cause Janet messed up (she was suppose to do the Grammy's).. why didnt they ask Beyoncè to perform alone? why does she need Prince to perform with her.. if she was holding her own back then? ..hmmm? .. cause.. @ the time there was no other female performer on Janet's status (which is gone now), EXCEPT Prince (Madonna, but that wouldnt have worked).. Beyoncè was a pretty added bonus.. and she's just racking up her points now as a star .. she hasnt been asked to do the SuperBowl either (which is big ..NFL is huge money) so..again, I have nothing against Beyoncè .. she's pretty and her personality is nice.. but she gets no credit for another veteran's career ... and also..(lol).. all the awards Prince received.. outbeatting younger artists.. he earned them HIMSELF..
[Edited 6/10/07 12:45pm]



LOL

Beyoncé sang ALONE again later that night on the Grammy's and recieved a standing ovation. And Beyoncé was asked to do the Superbowl - she sang the National Anthem. Been there, done all that.



wonder505 said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



she is the only thing hot over the last 2 years.....she is keeping the industry afloat


yeah she's hot. and I'm a fan of hers but i have to admit that if Beyonce is what is keeping the music industry "afloat" then that's pretty sad. Beyonce's sophomore effort with B-Day tanked and she's banking on sex appeal. Have the mainstream industry have nothing else to offer? perhaps i'm just too ole skool and out of wack with the times and today's music.


B'Day didn't tank - its currently 3x platinum in the US.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
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and now the final frame
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Reply #133 posted 06/17/07 8:01pm

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Scorpion said:

Flowerz said:

omgosh... now ppl wanna give Beyoncè credit for Prince's comeback?... k what are y'all smokin'? smoker .. NO REAL MUSICIAN .. needs anybody else to 'boost' their career ... they 'shine' on their own .. ... and ppl need to remember .. back in 2004.. the whole Prince/Beyoncè thing happened cause Janet messed up (she was suppose to do the Grammy's).. why didnt they ask Beyoncè to perform alone? why does she need Prince to perform with her.. if she was holding her own back then? ..hmmm? .. cause.. @ the time there was no other female performer on Janet's status (which is gone now), EXCEPT Prince (Madonna, but that wouldnt have worked).. Beyoncè was a pretty added bonus.. and she's just racking up her points now as a star .. she hasnt been asked to do the SuperBowl either (which is big ..NFL is huge money) so..again, I have nothing against Beyoncè .. she's pretty and her personality is nice.. but she gets no credit for another veteran's career ... and also..(lol).. all the awards Prince received.. outbeatting younger artists.. he earned them HIMSELF..
[Edited 6/10/07 12:45pm]



LOL

Beyoncé sang ALONE again later that night on the Grammy's and recieved a standing ovation. And Beyoncé was asked to do the Superbowl - she sang the National Anthem. Been there, done all that.





yeah she's hot. and I'm a fan of hers but i have to admit that if Beyonce is what is keeping the music industry "afloat" then that's pretty sad. Beyonce's sophomore effort with B-Day tanked and she's banking on sex appeal. Have the mainstream industry have nothing else to offer? perhaps i'm just too ole skool and out of wack with the times and today's music.


B'Day didn't tank - its currently 3x platinum in the US.[/quote]


planet earth wont sell 3 million guaranteed if guitar is the best thing on it
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Reply #134 posted 06/17/07 8:11pm

FarrahMoan

Scorpion said:

Flowerz said:

omgosh... now ppl wanna give Beyoncè credit for Prince's comeback?... k what are y'all smokin'? smoker .. NO REAL MUSICIAN .. needs anybody else to 'boost' their career ... they 'shine' on their own .. ... and ppl need to remember .. back in 2004.. the whole Prince/Beyoncè thing happened cause Janet messed up (she was suppose to do the Grammy's).. why didnt they ask Beyoncè to perform alone? why does she need Prince to perform with her.. if she was holding her own back then? ..hmmm? .. cause.. @ the time there was no other female performer on Janet's status (which is gone now), EXCEPT Prince (Madonna, but that wouldnt have worked).. Beyoncè was a pretty added bonus.. and she's just racking up her points now as a star .. she hasnt been asked to do the SuperBowl either (which is big ..NFL is huge money) so..again, I have nothing against Beyoncè .. she's pretty and her personality is nice.. but she gets no credit for another veteran's career ... and also..(lol).. all the awards Prince received.. outbeatting younger artists.. he earned them HIMSELF..
[Edited 6/10/07 12:45pm]



LOL

Beyoncé sang ALONE again later that night on the Grammy's and recieved a standing ovation. And Beyoncé was asked to do the Superbowl - she sang the National Anthem. Been there, done all that.





yeah she's hot. and I'm a fan of hers but i have to admit that if Beyonce is what is keeping the music industry "afloat" then that's pretty sad. Beyonce's sophomore effort with B-Day tanked and she's banking on sex appeal. Have the mainstream industry have nothing else to offer? perhaps i'm just too ole skool and out of wack with the times and today's music.


B'Day didn't tank - its currently 3x platinum in the US.[/quote]

It's still inferior to "Dangerously in Love", quality-wise.
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Reply #135 posted 06/17/07 8:17pm

wonder505

FarrahMoan said:

Scorpion said:



B'Day didn't tank - its currently 3x platinum in the US.


It's still inferior to "Dangerously in Love", quality-wise.


wow, you are right. I had no idea this went triple platinum.
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Reply #136 posted 06/17/07 8:23pm

FarrahMoan

wonder505 said:

FarrahMoan said:



It's still inferior to "Dangerously in Love", quality-wise.


wow, you are right. I had no idea this went triple platinum.


What are you trying to say?
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Reply #137 posted 06/17/07 11:58pm

Flowerz

Scorpion said:

Flowerz said:

omgosh... now ppl wanna give Beyoncè credit for Prince's comeback?... k what are y'all smokin'? smoker .. NO REAL MUSICIAN .. needs anybody else to 'boost' their career ... they 'shine' on their own .. ... and ppl need to remember .. back in 2004.. the whole Prince/Beyoncè thing happened cause Janet messed up (she was suppose to do the Grammy's).. why didnt they ask Beyoncè to perform alone? why does she need Prince to perform with her.. if she was holding her own back then? ..hmmm? .. cause.. @ the time there was no other female performer on Janet's status (which is gone now), EXCEPT Prince (Madonna, but that wouldnt have worked).. Beyoncè was a pretty added bonus.. and she's just racking up her points now as a star .. she hasnt been asked to do the SuperBowl either (which is big ..NFL is huge money) so..again, I have nothing against Beyoncè .. she's pretty and her personality is nice.. but she gets no credit for another veteran's career ... and also..(lol).. all the awards Prince received.. outbeatting younger artists.. he earned them HIMSELF..
[Edited 6/10/07 12:45pm]



LOL

Beyoncé sang ALONE again later that night on the Grammy's and recieved a standing ovation. And Beyoncé was asked to do the Superbowl - she sang the National Anthem. Been there, done all that.


[/b]


we're talking the Half Time Show.. she's never been asked to do that.. we're talking 2004 .. her status wasnt on Janet's back then .. and seems the NFL now is leery of asking anyone under 40 to perform the Half Time Show now.. last year when they had Stevie he had India Arie with him, but they asked Stevie .. and other over 50+ plus yo's
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Reply #138 posted 06/18/07 3:12am

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Orgers hate every other artist that is not PRINCE!!!! Sometimes I wonder how a sensible discussion can ever be had on this board

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Reply #139 posted 06/18/07 6:31am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

ReggaeQueen said:

Orgers hate every other artist that is not PRINCE!!!! Sometimes I wonder how a sensible discussion can ever be had on this board

rolleyes


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Reply #140 posted 06/18/07 12:20pm

Scorpion

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Scorpion said:




LOL

Beyoncé sang ALONE again later that night on the Grammy's and recieved a standing ovation. And Beyoncé was asked to do the Superbowl - she sang the National Anthem. Been there, done all that.


[/b]


we're talking the Half Time Show.. she's never been asked to do that.. we're talking 2004 .. her status wasnt on Janet's back then .. and seems the NFL now is leery of asking anyone under 40 to perform the Half Time Show now.. last year when they had Stevie he had India Arie with him, but they asked Stevie .. and other over 50+ plus yo's


They gave her the OPTION of either doing the Half-Time festivites or the Star Spangled Banner and it was her decision to do the National Anthem. Soo...
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #141 posted 06/20/07 8:42pm

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women jealous because she fine...women always hate on someone finer than them and richer,with more booty,and a million dollar boyfriend.....women cant stand that shit


I can speak for myself.. I personally do NOT dislike her because your think she is fine...I dislike her... for her fake personality, for dating Jay-Z, for her terrible music, ugly cloths, and fakeness..

I don't think she is that pretty anymore.... not like she was 2001-2005...
i don't know what she is going through.. but she looks sad...

and when she tries to speak proper english.. she sounds fake...
its so obvious she is loud and ghetto... but tries to cover up her southern texan accent...

I personally don't care if she prances around naked... I never complained about beyonces cloths because the serious issue is her fake personality...


and beyonce is a NORMAL pretty girl...

and she has millions and still looks sad/miserable...
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Reply #142 posted 06/20/07 9:41pm

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TotalAlisa said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



women jealous because she fine...women always hate on someone finer than them and richer,with more booty,and a million dollar boyfriend.....women cant stand that shit


I can speak for myself.. I personally do NOT dislike her because your think she is fine...I dislike her... for her fake personality, for dating Jay-Z, for her terrible music, ugly cloths, and fakeness..

I don't think she is that pretty anymore.... not like she was 2001-2005...
i don't know what she is going through.. but she looks sad...

and when she tries to speak proper english.. she sounds fake...
its so obvious she is loud and ghetto... but tries to cover up her southern texan accent...

I personally don't care if she prances around naked... I never complained about beyonces cloths because the serious issue is her fake personality...


and beyonce is a NORMAL pretty girl...

and she has millions and still looks sad/miserable...

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Reply #143 posted 06/20/07 9:49pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

FarrahMoan said:



Teena Marie, Steve Vai, Jimi Hendrix (Although he's not alive), oh and how could I have almost forgotten his guitar idol, "CARLOS FREAKIN' SANTANA"!!!

all of them do one thing not multi talented


Teena's a multi-instrumentlist.
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Reply #144 posted 06/21/07 7:33am

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Ottensen said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


all of them do one thing not multi talented


Teena's a multi-instrumentlist.

but she's a woman so that doesnt count
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Reply #145 posted 06/21/07 7:51am

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Ottensen said:



Teena's a multi-instrumentlist.

but she's a woman so that doesnt count

whofarted
Man, seriously, what the fuck?!? lol
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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


but she's a woman so that doesnt count

whofarted
Man, seriously, what the fuck?!? lol
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