youre 30something, not 13. take your fucking vma award for that one lousy song and get off the stage. the moby remarks were the lowest point of the evening.

is this guy quickly becoming the next Kathy Lee Gifford?

not knowing when to find a new shtick?

He always looks like he has a lot of anger inside of him. He never looks like a happy fellow. I think he should try changing his persona for his own good because you would think with all those 'awards' he would look like, and be a happier person from all of his success, but from the way it looks, it's as if his career is making him an even more unhappy person. He gets NO votes from me.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 29 23:26:59 PDT 2002 by Starmist7]

The moby remarks were embarrasing for me 2 watch, watch out eminem, ure career is about 2 shoot down the toilet.. hear the booo's???

Did he not get upset when people booed him? He can dish it but not take it. that sayz what?

He's such a child. I felt actually bad for Moby, what the fuck did he ever do to deserve that? Eminem was like a schoolyard bully. I was glad MTV was tasteful enough not to pan to Moby while Eminem was going off. Pfft.

Doves,
Mel!ssa

Eminem is one of my favourites...Yes he's angry, like i am,whats the matter?

I think Eminem is really talented,but why do ALL his songs have to always be about him and his various dramas? I just heard his new single "Cleanin Out My Radio" on the radio and ,once again,he's attacking his own mother.His self-referential lyrics are getting tired,imo.Go get some therapy and deal with it,man!

tackam said:

You are right on point. And you know what's even funnier, EM seems to only bully other white kids... he's like that one white kid in the school who wanted to earn a rep with the black kids and did it by picking on other white kids.

I have yet to see him say shit about another rapper or black pop act. It's always Christina Aguilera, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Moby, Fred Durst, Carson Daly, Everlast... easy targets, but if you the MAN you say you are say shit about Nas, Jay Z, Camron, etc. Punkass.
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 0:37:26 PDT 2002 by NuPwrSoul]

DavidEye said:

He's becoming a parody of himself. It's boring. I don't hear much diversity in his writing. But he knows he has to strike while the iron is hot.

NuPwrSoul said:[quote]

tackam said:

Maybe he likes them?

How about if one of you types out (roughly) what was said??? I won't be able to watch that garbage until the Saturday rerun...

THX!

I think he said something like "I'm going to hit (or punch) someone wearing glasses". Haven't seen it yet so don't know whether it was directed at Moby. It could have been directed at Elton John for all I know

KeithyT said:

He said "I'm not afraid to hit someone wearing glasses" and that statement was directed at Moby.

Someone needs to help me.. The remark that Eminem threw out while accepting his award.. was that TO MOBY or to an audience member? I was a little confused..Someone explain to me..

I think DavidEye has answered your query above, silkyspread

NuPwrSoul said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Amen! Oddly enough,Eminem goes out of his way to praise Black artists (he even said MJ's 'Invincible' CD was the best CD he heard all year!).I guess it's more convenient for a "bully" to pick easy targets,huh?
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 6:32:39 PDT 2002 by DavidEye]

KeithyT said:

But was he actually talking to Moby or was he talking to someone else and aiming that "lame ass statement" Moby

Thanks though Keithy!

silkyspread said:

No,that statement was aimed at Moby.He looked at Moby when he said it.He was pissed when they started booing him.
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 6:46:24 PDT 2002 by DavidEye]

I didn't catch the comment about Moby, what did he say?

Ya know, I used to like Eminem but his whole image and people bashing is getting old. I think he's talented enough to do a lot better and put some good shit out. He let us know how he felt about his family and other people he didn't like on the Marshall Mathers album, now move on and do something else. It's like a broken record already!

NuPwrSoul said:

just for the record, hr's taken shotz at p.diddy and will smith.

00769BAD said:

emnem has symply found a way to 'clean out his closet'
and make a lot of money at the same time.
Shit... if i could releasse anger and get paid, i'ld do it too.
I DO IT FOR FREE!!!

Hes a prick aswell. I would so love 2 gauge his eyes out using that gold medalion he wears. Bitch.

Eminem is just another flash in the pan. His pointless self worth is getting 2 much attention. And yes...he is an asshole!!

it all started with that stupid dog puppet...I forget it's name...it was talking to moby...callin him old and all that and then moby said "who said that?" and the dog said M&M (I know that's not how he spells it) Moby looked like he could care less really...he was too interested in his digital camera...any way..just at that point M&M and crew were getting up to go somewhere (??) and the dog puppet was like...OH here he is...let's go see what he has to say and went over to M&M...M&M was like Shut the fuck up and they cut the camera away quickly cause obviously M has no sense of humor unless he's tellin' the joke. So, later when he was accepting an award he said something bout not being afraid to hit a guy with glasses and go head keep talking or something (so I think Moby might have been laughing or heckling him in the audience) he referred to moby as Moby girl or Missmoby or something ...he basically called moby a pussy. but...it was real uncomfortable...cause the crowd started booing him and he just kept
on yappin' and sayin' his thanx. what was funny too was that Christina Ag..(yah..her) was the one to give him his award (not sure if that was a diff award or what) but she handed him his award and he tried to just take it w/ out acknowledging her at all...but she stood there holding on to it for a second, and he eventually looked right at her and said "Thank you" kinda like...there...ya happy now? LOL it was pretty funny.

I like M&M ...but he NEEDS to come up with something new for his next record...everyone is sick of hearing his boo-hooing. I mean...let's see what come's next...shall we?

DavidEye said:

I didnt watch the VMAs last nite, but that is one of my favorite songs. As a disfunctional kid this song is tragic to me, I understand it. I would think these songs are therapeutic and they are also the way Em makes his money - by exploiting his tragedies.

One thing everyone here I would assume knows... being that this place is for an artist who is obscure with his own behaviour... is that these ARTISTS have an act. Em is using a tired old schtick to "attack" Moby -- and of course, in the process, as long as Moby doesnt respond, Em looks like a lame duck. (No offense Random )

But that dude is quite different when he's not surrounded by the hype, the pomp and circumstance. He's a nice guy despite this angry persona he puts on -- the problem is no one will ever see it unless you meet him -- so the public is gonna buy this fronted image of who he is. And thats wha he wants - to protect himself.

Em is still that geeky, insecure guy fighting the closest people to him (mom, wife) and still trying to fit in. If your momma kicked you out and when you made it big tried to do you wrong -- you'd be fucked up too.

However, as the general public, we get he's fucked up and he talks about the bullshit that happened in the past -- but now what? Its been a couple of years now in fame and fortune land filled with girls and all the other trappings ---
whats he gonna rap about next? I hope its growth and maturity for his sake.

Shorty said:

Thanks for the thorough report Shortster!

DavidEye said:

Actually, that statement wasn't aimed at Moby, but rather, to the puppeteer guy sitting in the isle, who had just done an improv interview with Moby poking fun at Eminem's "views" about him. Afterwards tried to spice up his "fill in" time before the next presenter by running up to Eminem and trying to get a few comments about Moby (who was sitting two rows behind him), as he was in the isle.
Eminem was clearly caught off guard, and warned the man
several times that it wasn't his "tv time" at that moment,
and that the guy should move on. That basically meant, in
tele production lingo- 'you're not one of the mtv personell
that has authorized 'clearance' to approach me on camera , etc., etc.," He was well within his rights as an artist to be angry about that (the riders and contractual specifications for artists appearing on these shows are followed to the "T"). However, I agree that his RESPONSE to the situation was completely juvenile.

...Ironically, during his next acceptence speech, he did say to the audience..."y'all gotta forgive me...I been goin' thru anger management class..." It was almost meant to be light-hearted, but one could see some real sadness in that whole thing. In my opinion, MTV really dropped the ball with this one. I mean, what could have been a good piece of satire, turned into some ugly thing that left
Eminem looking like an asshole and Moby sqirming in his seat, because they couldn't control a loose cannon (who was one of their own!). Plus, it transpired ON THE AIR? Live and unedited in front of millions? I betcha ten bucks there were more than a few MTV producers chewing on their hand knuckles while they saw that happen on the monitors...