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Most Monumental Album Flops yep another one of those "list" . This one from spinner.com. Thought this was semi-worth posting and would spark some discussion, concidering many legands are on this list including Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson , Prince , Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen
----- Most Monumental Album Flops http://www.spinner.com/20...ops-no-25/ *All sales figures are U.S., from RIAA and Nielsen SoundScan, except where indicated. 25. 'Pop' U2, 1997 Rise: Ten years after U2 assumed the rock 'n' roll throne, they planned the glitzy Popmart tour as an ironic take on consumerism, and they rushed out the accompanying album to meet the deadline. Fall: The half-baked 'Pop' was so forgettable that U2's next album, 'All That You Can't Leave Behind,' was widely hailed as the band's "comeback" record. Stats: 'The Joshua Tree' (1987), 10 million; 'Pop,' 1.5 million 24 'Powerballin'' Chingy, 2004 Rise: Smash debut put St. Louis native 'Right Thurr' with three Top Five hits. Fall: Beefs with Ludacris and Nelly sent fans away in droves. Stats: 'Jackpot' (2003), 2.9 million; 'Powerballin',' 600,000 23 'Forever' Spice Girls, 2000 Rise: Smash success of 1996 debut set off an international wave of Beatlemaniacal proportions for this prefab five. Fall: The departure of Ginger Spice and the maturing of the group's target audience ensured the Spice phenomenon wouldn't last 'Forever.' Stats: 'Spice' (1996), 7.4 million; 'Forever,' 200,000 22 'Warning' Green Day, 2000 Rise: 'Dookie' was a certified monster; 1997's 'Nimrod' featured the surprise hit ballad 'Good Riddance (Time of Your Life),' which was heard by millions on the 'Seinfeld' finale. Fall: For a band built on potty humor, their newfound maturity might have been premature. However, fans would later come around to embracing the grown-up sentiments of 2004's comeback blockbuster 'American Idiot .' Stats: 'Dookie' (1994), 7.8 million; 'Warning,' 1.1 million 21 'Crown Royal' Run DMC, 2001 Rise: The trio showed hip-hop how to 'Walk This Way,' right into the pop mainstream with its multiplatinum collaborations. Fall: Their endlessly delayed comeback was too long in coming, so guests such as Fred Durst and Stephan Jenkins were soooo 1990s by the time of its eventual release. Stats: 'Raising Hell' (1986), 3 million; 'Crown Royal,' 150,000 20 'Dead Ringer' Meat Loaf, 1981 Rise: The big fella's surprise blockbuster, 'Bat Out of Hell,' came with a prophetic play-by-play: "Holy cow, I think he's gonna make it!" Fall: A broken leg, shredded vocal cords and general exhaustion led to a critical delay for the follow-up. Despite help from Cher, the stillborn 'Dead Ringer' couldn't keep Meat out of bankruptcy. Stats: 'Bat Out of Hell' (1977), 14 million; 'Dead Ringer,' less than 500,000 19 'Playing With Fire' Kevin Federline, 2006 Rise: One of the all-time pop success stories: Third-tier backup dancer gets Britney Spears to have his babies. Fall: 'America's Most Hated' (he said it, not us); the country ignored K-Fed's debut in record-breaking numbers, marking him more accurately as America's Most Ignored. Stats: 'Baby One More Time' (Spears' debut, 1999), 10.5 million; 'Playing With Fire,' 18,000 18 'Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants' Stevie Wonder, 1978 Rise: Riding a creative deluge from the early '70s, the singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist set his own high-water mark with the smash 'Songs in the Key of Life.' Fall: The long-delayed follow-up, purportedly the soundtrack to a mysterious film, baffled fans with its heavily synthesized, New Age-y vibe. Stats: 'Key of Life' (1976), 10 million; 'Secret Life of Plants,' less than 500,000 17 'Altered Beast' Matthew Sweet, 1993 Rise: Journeyman rocker was suddenly one of the indie world's biggest stars with power-pop masterpiece 'Girlfriend,' including the Top 10 title track. Fall: Despite help from musical heavy hitters including Mick Fleetwood and a full-on publicity blitz with five different album covers, the record flopped. There were inspiring moments, said Rolling Stone, but "the problem is finding them." Ouch! Stats: 'Girlfriend' (1991), 580,000; 'Altered Beast,' 180,000 16 'I'm in You' Peter Frampton, 1977 Rise: The former U.K. teen idol grew up fast with the double LP 'Frampton Comes Alive!,' still one of the best-selling live albums of all time. Fall: Despite the presence of Stevie Wonder, 'I'm in You' was creamed by the critics. The subsequent 'Sgt. Pepper' film fiasco and a near-fatal car crash effectively creamed Frampton's career. Stats: 'Frampton Comes Alive!' (1976), 6 million; 'I'm in You,' 1 million 15 'Schizophrenic' JC Chasez, 2004 Rise: After Justin Timberlake, Chasez was the most high-profile member of monster boy band 'N Sync. Fall: Rock, electronic, Prince-style funk experiments all failed to sway the public, and the album title and cover photo offended some mental-health advocates. Stats: 'Justified' (Timberlake's solo debut, 2002), 3.6 million; 'Schizophrenic,' 120,000 14 '... But the Little Girls Understand' The Knack, 1980 Rise: On the strength of the insanely catchy 'My Sharona' -- Dave Grohl's all-time favorite song -- the L.A. power pop band spent five weeks with the country's No. 1 album in '79. Fall: A guilty pleasure from the start, the band was bound for a quick and violent backlash -- "Knuke the Knack"! Stats: 'Get the Knack' (1979), 2 million; 'But the Little Girls Understand,' 500,000 13 'Paul's Boutique' Beastie Boys, 1989 Rise: The New York trio's slap-happy debut, 'Licensed to Ill,' was the first hip-hop album to hit No. 1. Fall: Though eventually revered as a hip-hop landmark, 'Paul's' was roundly ignored by a public that wanted more 'Ill' behavior, and it gained its legendary status and much of its sales only in the past 10 years. Stats: 'Licensed to Ill' (1986), 9 million; 'Paul's Boutique,' 2 million 12 'Fairweather Johnson' Hootie and the Blowfish, 1996 Rise: 'Cracked Rear View,' the 1994 major-label tee-off by the golf-loving South Carolina foursome, instantly made Hootie one of the biggest-selling new groups of all time. Fall: Though 'Fairweather' debuted at No. 1, it was quickly eclipsed by a record number of Hootie jokes. Stats: 'Cracked Rear View,' 10.1 million; 'Fairweather Johnson,' 2.3 million 11 'Forever' Puff Daddy, 1999 Rise: This smash debut rode Biggie Smalls' broad back to two No. 1 singles and another that reached No. 2. Fall: Criminally underperforming sequel led the rapper to go into the hip-hop witness protection program, changing his name (for the first time) to P. Diddy. Stats: 'No Way Out' (1997), 5.2 million; 'Forever,' 1.4 million 10 'Human Touch'/ 'Lucky Town' Bruce Springsteen, 1992 Rise: His 'Born in the U.S.A.' pulled off one of the great feats in pop history, placing seven singles in the Top 10. Fall: Newly remarried and relocated to L.A., the Boss released two generally upbeat albums with little help from his longtime E Street Band. Even hard-core fans were -- gasp! -- bored silly. Stats: 'Born in the U.S.A.' (1984), 15 million; 'Human Touch'/ 'Lucky Town,' 1 million each 9 'The Ego Has Landed' Robbie Williams, 1999 Rise: The former Take That popster is the U.K.'s all-time top-selling solo artist and has sold more than 53 million albums worldwide. Fall: Despite a huge push from Capitol Records to break into the American market, 'The Ego' never got higher than No. 63 on the U.S. pop charts. Take that! Stats: 'I've Been Expecting You' (1998), 5 million (worldwide); 'Ego,' 560,000 (U.S.) 8 'Mind Blowin'' Vanilla Ice, 1994 Rise: 'Ice Ice Baby' was the first hip-hop single to hit No. 1 on the pop charts. Fall: Exposure of the former Robert Van Winkle's suburban background fueled jokes about the original white gangsta's street cred, as did a tale of allegedly being dangled off a balcony by Suge Knight. Stats: 'To the Extreme' (1990), 7 million; 'Mind Blowin',' 42,000 7 'Return of Dragon' Sisqo, 2001 Rise: For a minute there, 'Thong Song' was between the cheeks of everyone in the developed world. Fall: The Baltimore R&B singer's uninspiring follow-up was the commercial equivalent of granny panties. Stats: 'Unleash the Dragon' (1999), 4.2 million; 'Return of Dragon,' 450,000 6 'HIStory' Michael Jackson, 1995 Rise: The creator of the world's best-selling album of all time ('Thriller') was still capable of selling seven times platinum in the U.S. with 1991's 'Dangerous.' Fall: Jackson's plan for his none-too-humbly titled 'HIStory' included placements of statutes of himself around the world. The new songs were so uninspiring he ended up including a greatest-hits disc. Stats: 'Thriller' (1982), 27 million; 'HIStory,' 2.5 million 5 'Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic' Prince, 1999 Rise: The '80s superstar was ripe for a comeback after split with longtime label Warner Bros. Fall: Clive Davis roped in Sheryl Crow, Gwen Stefani and other luminaries in a 'Supernatural'-style bid to return His Purple Majesty to the pop throne, but the album tanked. Stats: 'Purple Rain' (1984), 13 million; 'Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic,' 480,000 4 'Paris' Paris Hilton, 2007 Rise: The hotel heiress and reality series star has compared herself to Princess Di and Marilyn Monroe. Fall: Despite her viral Internet superstardom, her recording debut just made listeners sick. Stats: 'Paris,' 180,000 3 'Glitter' Mariah Carey, 2001 Rise: The pop diva with the glass-shattering vocal range was the most successful U.S. artist of the 1990s. Fall: 'Glitter,' the soundtrack to an equally unsuccessful movie, was released on September 11, 2001, and things only got worse from there. Stats: 'Rainbow' (1999), 2.9 million; 'Glitter,' 630,000 2 'Garth Brooks in the Life of Chris Gaines' Garth Brooks, 1999 Rise: The suburban cowboy superstar has had more than 70 hit singles; more than 115 million albums sold in the U.S. alone. Fall: Rolling Stone declared Brooks' weird fake-rock-star alter-ego project was "the most monumentally disastrous marketing idea that mainstream pop had seen in years." Stats: 'Ropin' the Wind' (1991), 14 million; 'In the Life of Chris Gaines,' 1.1 million 1 'Self Portrait' Bob Dylan, 1970 Rise: You know -- the quintessential singer-songwriter who could do no wrong. Fall: The Dylan generation had a tough time swallowing what 'Self Portrait' proved: that their hero was fully capable of sucking as much as the next mere mortal. Stats: 'Blonde on Blonde' (1966), 2 million; 'Self Portrait,' 110,000 [Edited 5/30/07 16:41pm] | |
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Why isn't 20 YO on this? | |
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Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants might have better sales if it were actually still in print. It's a great album, so forget the haters.
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How was "HIStory" a flop when it sold 18 million copies?
It's the ONLY album that doesn't include the "stats" "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: How was "HIStory" a flop when it sold 18 million copies?
It's the ONLY album that doesn't include the "stats" sorry , i missed that line when i was copy/pasting everything . It has been updated. >>>Stats: 'Thriller' (1982), 27 million; 'HIStory,' 2.5 million <<< *All sales figures are U.S., from RIAA and Nielsen SoundScan, except where indicated. [Edited 5/30/07 16:42pm] | |
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bboy87 said: How was "HIStory" a flop when it sold 18 million copies?
It's the ONLY album that doesn't include the "stats" According to Soundscan 'HIStory' has scanned 2,540,229 copies to date. Beacause it's a double album..they count it twice which brings it to 5 million...It was certified even higher because Epic shipped so much of it...much was returned. 18 million looks more of a worldwide number..but in the US..that set has sold 2.5 million peace Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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newpower99 said: bboy87 said: How was "HIStory" a flop when it sold 18 million copies?
It's the ONLY album that doesn't include the "stats" sorry , i missed that line when i was copy/pasting everything . It has been updated. >>>Stats: 'Thriller' (1982), 27 million; 'HIStory,' 2.5 million <<< 2.5 mil? damn..... I gotta check that out *All sales figures are U.S., from RIAA and Nielsen SoundScan, except where indicated. [Edited 5/30/07 16:42pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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newpower99 said: 24 'Powerballin'' Chingy, 2004 Rise: Smash debut put St. Louis native 'Right Thurr' with three Top Five hits. Fall: Beefs with Ludacris and Nelly sent fans away in droves. Stats: 'Jackpot' (2003), 2.9 million; 'Powerballin',' 600,000 PowerFallin' PRINCE: Always and Forever
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wonder505 said: Why isn't 20 YO on this?
Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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Cinnamon234 said: wonder505 said: Why isn't 20 YO on this?
Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think this list is about a year old...I remember seeing this a while back... peace Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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But Hey for fun...here's Janet stats
NOTE= This is according to Soundscan which began in 1991 after 'Control' and 'RN1814' 'janet.' (1993) has sold 6,984,081 '20 Y,O' (2006) has sold 641,403 Incidently those were her first and last albums for Virgin Records. Both 'All For You' and 'Velvet Rope' sit in at 3 million and 3.2 million respectivly. peace Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: Cinnamon234 said: Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think this list is about a year old...I remember seeing this a while back... peace According to the site it was .... >>>Posted May 24th 2007 5:00PM by Spinner Staff <<<<< but im sure there have been similar lists else where | |
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newpower99 said: VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: I think this list is about a year old...I remember seeing this a while back... peace According to the site it was .... >>>Posted May 24th 2007 5:00PM by Spinner Staff <<<<< but im sure there have been similar lists else where Ahh..it may have been blender mag... I posted Janets stats above Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: But Hey for fun...here's Janet stats
NOTE= This is according to Soundscan which began in 1991 after 'Control' and 'RN1814' 'janet.' (1993) has sold 6,984,081 '20 Y,O' (2006) has sold 641,403 Incidently those were her first and last albums for Virgin Records. Both 'All For You' and 'Velvet Rope' sit in at 3 million and 3.2 million respectivly. peace if not 20 y/o . Damita Jo should have made it . it came first and i think commercially they were eqaul flops. and I agree .... i thought for sure Madonna's American Life would be here. Cant agrue with the Prince entry. They had several to choose from . But Rave was his first Major label backed album since WB. It tanked | |
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Cinnamon234 said: wonder505 said: Why isn't 20 YO on this?
Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. American Life Released: April 22, 2003 USA Peak: 1 USA Sales Figure: 1 Million Last Certified: July 7, 2003 UK Peak: 1 Total World Wide Sales: 5 Million http://www.absolutemadonn...tats.shtml [Edited 5/30/07 17:12pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: American Life Released: April 22, 2003 USA Peak: 1 USA Sales Figure: 1 Million Last Certified: July 7, 2003 UK Peak: 1 Total World Wide Sales: 5 Million http://www.absolutemadonn...tats.shtml [Edited 5/30/07 17:12pm] Hmmm.... well everywhere else i've seen puts "American Life" at around 680,000+ copies in the U.S. and 6 million worldwide. I 've never read anywhere about it selling 1 million. I do not believe it is platinum in the U.S. at all. [Edited 5/30/07 17:17pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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ehuffnsd said: Cinnamon234 said: Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. American Life Released: April 22, 2003 USA Peak: 1 USA Sales Figure: 1 Million Last Certified: July 7, 2003 UK Peak: 1 Total World Wide Sales: 5 Million http://www.absolutemadonn...tats.shtml [Edited 5/30/07 17:12pm] Madonna Soundscan Stats: AMERICAN LIFE: 670,186 sold in the US IMMACULATE COLLECTION: 5,546,712 sold in US since Soundscan in 1991 but is around the 10 million mark if you count sales before peace Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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Cinnamon234 said: ehuffnsd said: American Life Released: April 22, 2003 USA Peak: 1 USA Sales Figure: 1 Million Last Certified: July 7, 2003 UK Peak: 1 Total World Wide Sales: 5 Million http://www.absolutemadonn...tats.shtml [Edited 5/30/07 17:12pm] Hmmm.... well everywhere else i've seen puts "American Life" at around 680,000+ copies in the U.S. and 6 million worldwide. I 've never read anywhere about it selling 1 million. I do not believe it is platinum in the U.S. at all. [Edited 5/30/07 17:17pm] platinum is based on number shipped not sold You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Cinnamon234 said: wonder505 said: Why isn't 20 YO on this?
Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think HIStory's failure had more to do with the amount it cost to promote it. It cost about $20 million in promotion, so 2.5 million sold isn't going t churn out a profit. Even the $18 million in global sales barely made up for it. At least with 20 YO, not a whole lot of money seemed to be spent on it, not to mention publicity either(save for Janets appearance on Oprah). I mean, MJ had statues of himself in different cities!!! With all the hoopla, you'd think that it would top Thriller(which is pretty impossible), but it didn't even make the top 5 best selling albums that year. That said, I think Invincible should be on there and not HIStory. $30 million was spent just to make that album, and I think an additional $25 million was spent on promotion. So for it to only sale 2 million copies made it a complete fiasco. Sure, a bigger hoopla was made over HIStory, but the reviews for that album weren't as scathing as the ones for Invincible. Financially, with Invincible, I highly doubt that Michael will ever make a profit off of it. Also...if U2's POP is on there, then how the hell did Madonna's American Life avoid the list? I totally agree with that. I like Madonna, but let's face it, that album was a total flop. It didn't even go platinum. | |
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newskin69 said: Cinnamon234 said: Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think HIStory's failure had more to do with the amount it cost to promote it. It cost about $20 million in promotion, so 2.5 million sold isn't going t churn out a profit. Even the $18 million in global sales barely made up for it. At least with 20 YO, not a whole lot of money seemed to be spent on it, not to mention publicity either(save for Janets appearance on Oprah). I mean, MJ had statues of himself in different cities!!! With all the hoopla, you'd think that it would top Thriller(which is pretty impossible), but it didn't even make the top 5 best selling albums that year. That said, I think Invincible should be on there and not HIStory. $30 million was spent just to make that album, and I think an additional $25 million was spent on promotion. So for it to only sale 2 million copies made it a complete fiasco. Sure, a bigger hoopla was made over HIStory, but the reviews for that album weren't as scathing as the ones for Invincible. Financially, with Invincible, I highly doubt that Michael will ever make a profit off of it. Also...if U2's POP is on there, then how the hell did Madonna's American Life avoid the list? I totally agree with that. I like Madonna, but let's face it, that album was a total flop. It didn't even go platinum. The same can be said about Whitney's 'Just Whitney' which was her first not to go multi-platinum... peace Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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newskin69 said: Cinnamon234 said: Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think HIStory's failure had more to do with the amount it cost to promote it. It cost about $20 million in promotion, so 2.5 million sold isn't going t churn out a profit. Even the $18 million in global sales barely made up for it. At least with 20 YO, not a whole lot of money seemed to be spent on it, not to mention publicity either(save for Janets appearance on Oprah). I mean, MJ had statues of himself in different cities!!! With all the hoopla, you'd think that it would top Thriller(which is pretty impossible), but it didn't even make the top 5 best selling albums that year. That said, I think Invincible should be on there and not HIStory. $30 million was spent just to make that album, and I think an additional $25 million was spent on promotion. So for it to only sale 2 million copies made it a complete fiasco. Sure, a bigger hoopla was made over HIStory, but the reviews for that album weren't as scathing as the ones for Invincible. Financially, with Invincible, I highly doubt that Michael will ever make a profit off of it. Also...if U2's POP is on there, then how the hell did Madonna's American Life avoid the list? I totally agree with that. I like Madonna, but let's face it, that album was a total flop. It didn't even go platinum. More like $500,000 dollars to make the album and $25 to promote it They didn't release any physical singles in the US, the video for "You Rock My World" was bullshit. They cancelled the single releases for "Unbreakable" and "Whatever Happens" which could've saved the album. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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AS FAR AS THE BEASTIES- I DON'T CARE HOW MANY COPIES "LICENSED" SOLD, "PAUL'S" IS THE BETTER LP/CD!!!!!
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: ehuffnsd said: American Life Released: April 22, 2003 USA Peak: 1 USA Sales Figure: 1 Million Last Certified: July 7, 2003 UK Peak: 1 Total World Wide Sales: 5 Million http://www.absolutemadonn...tats.shtml [Edited 5/30/07 17:12pm] Madonna Soundscan Stats: AMERICAN LIFE: 670,186 sold in the US IMMACULATE COLLECTION: 5,546,712 sold in US since Soundscan in 1991 but is around the 10 million mark if you count sales before peace Where do you get all this Soundscan info? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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newskin69 said: Cinnamon234 said: Exactly! How is MJ's album "History" on here but 20 Y0 isn't? 20 YO didn't even go platinum in the U.S. or worldwide. At least History managed to sell 2.5 million in the U.S. and sold 18 million altogether if you count worldwide sales. Also where is Madonna's "American Life" album? That flopped big time everywhere too! That is just total bullshit that MJ is on this list but I agree with the rest of their choices. I think HIStory's failure had more to do with the amount it cost to promote it. It cost about $20 million in promotion, so 2.5 million sold isn't going t churn out a profit. Even the $18 million in global sales barely made up for it. At least with 20 YO, not a whole lot of money seemed to be spent on it, not to mention publicity either(save for Janets appearance on Oprah). I mean, MJ had statues of himself in different cities!!! With all the hoopla, you'd think that it would top Thriller(which is pretty impossible), but it didn't even make the top 5 best selling albums that year. That said, I think Invincible should be on there and not HIStory. $30 million was spent just to make that album, and I think an additional $25 million was spent on promotion. So for it to only sale 2 million copies made it a complete fiasco. Sure, a bigger hoopla was made over HIStory, but the reviews for that album weren't as scathing as the ones for Invincible. Financially, with Invincible, I highly doubt that Michael will ever make a profit off of it. Also...if U2's POP is on there, then how the hell did Madonna's American Life avoid the list? I totally agree with that. I like Madonna, but let's face it, that album was a total flop. It didn't even go platinum. How the hell did History become considered a flop? it sold 36 million (18 million coppies) units and is still the greatest selling double disc album of all time? The revenue History got was incredible because the CD ,back in the day, cost 50 bucks to buy anyway it sold 3.5 million in the U.S. It would've sold even more if Sony decided to release another single, which it didn't, to accompany You are not alone. But it still is the second highest grossing album for jacko since thriller. where the hell did you get your sources Certainly not a flop nor a monumental flop lol christ what is your criteria of a flop? I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Dylan once said he intentionally made a bad album in order to shake off the heat at that time. He wanted 2 b less popular again.
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take Federline off the list. no one had ANY expectations for this scrub. affiliation with Britney notwithstanding. he had NOTHING to "follow-up" | |
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datdude said: take Federline off the list. no one had ANY expectations for this scrub. affiliation with Britney notwithstanding. he had NOTHING to "follow-up"
word! I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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thedribbler said: I believe Dylan he's not like the others in the list, he has some integrity.
It's not like Stevie Wonder and Prince have any integrity at all. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: History is still the greatest selling double disc album of all time?
I keep seeing this stated as a fact but I've never read it anywhere else but here. Could someone provide a link to back up this claim? | |
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