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PrintableEmbattledWarrior said: How the hell did History become considered a flop? it sold 36 million  that number keeps going up.
Its gonna be a billion by tomorrow morning.  | |
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Where's Rob & Fab (Milli Vanilli)? That had to be the biggest bomb of all time.
Girl You Know It's True 7,000,000 Rob & Fab 2,000   | |
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newpower99 said: that number keeps going up.
Its gonna be a billion by tomorrow morning. 1995’s “HIStory: Past, Present, & Future” is the best-selling multiple-disc album of all-time, with 18 million copies sold worldwide. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15529981/ | |
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It hasn't gone gold yet?  
'Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic,' 480,000
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bboy87 said: newskin69 said: I think HIStory's failure had more to do with the amount it cost to promote it. It cost about $20 million in promotion, so 2.5 million sold isn't going t churn out a profit. Even the $18 million in global sales barely made up for it. At least with 20 YO, not a whole lot of money seemed to be spent on it, not to mention publicity either(save for Janets appearance on Oprah). I mean, MJ had statues of himself in different cities!!! With all the hoopla, you'd think that it would top Thriller(which is pretty impossible), but it didn't even make the top 5 best selling albums that year. That said, I think Invincible should be on there and not HIStory. $30 million was spent just to make that album, and I think an additional $25 million was spent on promotion. So for it to only sale 2 million copies made it a complete fiasco. Sure, a bigger hoopla was made over HIStory, but the reviews for that album weren't as scathing as the ones for Invincible. Financially, with Invincible, I highly doubt that Michael will ever make a profit off of it. Also...if U2's POP is on there, then how the hell did Madonna's American Life avoid the list? I totally agree with that. I like Madonna, but let's face it, that album was a total flop. It didn't even go platinum. More like $500,000 dollars to make the album and $25 to promote it
They didn't release any physical singles in the US, the video for "You Rock My World" was bullshit. They cancelled the single releases for "Unbreakable" and "Whatever Happens" which could've saved the album. I read that they had to pay over a million bucks just to get Marlon Brando in the video saying one line. Plus I remember MJ doing quite a bit of promo around the release time If you will, so will I | |
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newpower99 said: EmbattledWarrior said: How the hell did History become considered a flop? it sold 36 million that number keeps going up.
Its gonna be a billion by tomorrow morning. 36 million UNITS asshole, meaning CD's History was a double album heres a lesson in division 36 divided by 2 is..... 18!!!!! 18 million which is consistent with what everybody else has been saying and i don't even have a fancy source i just wiki'd it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory that makes you a..... SHHHHH.. i won't even say it I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: newpower99 said: that number keeps going up.
Its gonna be a billion by tomorrow morning. 36 million UNITS asshole, meaning CD's History was a double album heres a lesson in division 36 divided by 2 is..... 18!!!!! 18 million which is consistent with what everybody else has been saying and i don't even have a fancy source i just wiki'd it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory that makes you a..... SHHHHH.. i won't even say it he did NO promo except for the madison square garden specials and virgin megastore signing that was it... promotion for invincible was scrapped after 3 monthes and for those 3 monthes it sold well then it just died... and i'll be the first to say that invincible was shite, but it just wasn't the reason why it wasn't successful... NOW INVINCIBLE WAS A FLOP! I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: NOW INVINCIBLE WAS A FLOP! It deserved to flop, it was trash! | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: newpower99 said: that number keeps going up.
Its gonna be a billion by tomorrow morning. 36 million UNITS asshole, meaning CD's History was a double album heres a lesson in division 36 divided by 2 is..... 18!!!!! 18 million which is consistent with what everybody else has been saying and i don't even have a fancy source i just wiki'd it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory that makes you a..... SHHHHH.. i won't even say it Just a question: Sometimes for double albums, the sales reported actually take the 2 discs into account already. So perhaps the 18 million means 9 million copies sold and the figure is doubled to reflect the 2 discs? I'm really not sure, but am interested. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: EmbattledWarrior said: 36 million UNITS asshole, meaning CD's History was a double album heres a lesson in division 36 divided by 2 is..... 18!!!!! 18 million which is consistent with what everybody else has been saying and i don't even have a fancy source i just wiki'd it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory that makes you a..... SHHHHH.. i won't even say it Just a question: Sometimes for double albums, the sales reported actually take the 2 discs into account already. So perhaps the 18 million means 9 million copies sold and the figure is doubled to reflect the 2 discs? I'm really not sure, but am interested. You asked nicely, so i won't be rude to you. I just posted that it sold 36 million units meaning CDS since each package has TWO discs the Album really sold only 18 million actual packaged copies ya got it? [Edited 5/30/07 20:31pm] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Moonbeam said: Just a question: Sometimes for double albums, the sales reported actually take the 2 discs into account already. So perhaps the 18 million means 9 million copies sold and the figure is doubled to reflect the 2 discs? I'm really not sure, but am interested. You asked nicely, so i won't be rude to you. I just posted that it sold 36 million units meaning CDS since each package has TWO discs the Album really sold only 18 million actual packaged copies ya got it? [Edited 5/30/07 20:31pm] Thanks for the info. 
I actually quite like the HIStory album, even if it gets ripped on quite a bit. I'm sure a majority of those sales are because of the hits disc, but I've played the HIStory album way more. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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thedoorkeeper said: EmbattledWarrior said: History is still the greatest selling double disc album of all time?
I keep seeing this stated as a fact but I've never read it anywhere else but here. Could someone provide a link to back up this claim? http://www.mjinf.co.uk/HI...IStory.htm states that it is the best-selling multiple disc of all-time, but my question is: would that honor really go to The Beatles' 1968 album, The White Album? Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: thedoorkeeper said: I keep seeing this stated as a fact but I've never read it anywhere else but here. Could someone provide a link to back up this claim? http://www.mjinf.co.uk/HI...IStory.htm states that it is the best-selling multiple disc of all-time, but my question is: would that honor really go to The Beatles' 1968 album, The White Album? I personally think it would go to the White Album but i have no sources soomebody do the work for me The white album is just that F*cking good! I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: silverchild said: http://www.mjinf.co.uk/HI...IStory.htm states that it is the best-selling multiple disc of all-time, but my question is: would that honor really go to The Beatles' 1968 album, The White Album? I personally think it would go to the White Album but i have no sources soomebody do the work for me The white album is just that F*cking good! Most of the info I've seen has the White Album at a little less than 10 million copies sold. BTW, Songs in the Key of Life is better. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: EmbattledWarrior said: I personally think it would go to the White Album but i have no sources soomebody do the work for me The white album is just that F*cking good! Most of the info I've seen has the White Album at a little less than 10 million copies sold. BTW, Songs in the Key of Life is better. I may love me some steviie but he aint got nuthin on the White Album Stevies good, not that good though! lol but different strokes rule the world I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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lilgish said: EmbattledWarrior said: NOW INVINCIBLE WAS A FLOP! It deserved to flop, it was trash! idk, i don't care for the cd but it sold like 10 mil copies without promotion so it couldn't have been that bad, so i wouldn't say it was a flop. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Moonbeam said: Just a question: Sometimes for double albums, the sales reported actually take the 2 discs into account already. So perhaps the 18 million means 9 million copies sold and the figure is doubled to reflect the 2 discs? I'm really not sure, but am interested. You asked nicely, so i won't be rude to you. I just posted that it sold 36 million units meaning CDS since each package has TWO discs the Album really sold only 18 million actual packaged copies ya got it? [Edited 5/30/07 20:31pm]
MJ fans are cazy . History was a pure fiasco. It sold around 15 millions around the world not 36 million units. You are so wrong | |
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krayzie said: EmbattledWarrior said: You asked nicely, so i won't be rude to you. I just posted that it sold 36 million units meaning CDS since each package has TWO discs the Album really sold only 18 million actual packaged copies ya got it? [Edited 5/30/07 20:31pm] MJ fans are cazy . History was a pure fiasco. It sold around 15 millions around the world not 36 million units. You are so wrong and prince fans aren't "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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krayzie said: History was a pure fiasco. It sold around 15 millions around the world not 36 million units. You are so wrong MSNBC says 18 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15529981/ How is 15 or 18 a flop? | |
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I dont know how many copies Michael Jackson has sold of his albums, but I do know that due to price that "history" was sold for that it actually was his second biggest profit/money maker for him and Sony after "Thriller" | |
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krayzie said: EmbattledWarrior said: You asked nicely, so i won't be rude to you. I just posted that it sold 36 million units meaning CDS since each package has TWO discs the Album really sold only 18 million actual packaged copies ya got it? [Edited 5/30/07 20:31pm]
MJ fans are cazy . History was a pure fiasco. It sold around 15 millions around the world not 36 million units. You are so wrong Krayzie , you got a crush on me? Stop trying to fuck me! 
i know you can read but maybe comprehension is not your bag... and it's 18 million not 15 And I'm not a fan, Was. I can honestly say i despise a good portion of his musical catalogue, now that I'm older. It seems to me you have some sort of vendetta against him. You can insult the mans face, but don't try to discredit his achievements. HIStory , in my opinion, is one of his better albums. It produced Stranger in Moscow, and that's probably one of the few songs that have me still listening, Waiting for that one masterful album. It may never come but a brotha can hope... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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I'm sorry, but I still don't believe that 'Best selling double album of all time' bullshit. Did HIStory sell better than "The Wall", "Grease", "Saturday Night Fever" or "The White Album", cause I honesly can't fathom that it did. MJ fans are renouned for exaggerating Jackson's sales.
The Wall was #1 in America for more than a week; it has been on the catalog chart in the US since it's release; Grease has been selling since '77. You're going to honestly say that HIStory has outsold it? Doubtful... I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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Axchi696 said: I'm sorry, but I still don't believe that 'Best selling double album of all time' bullshit. Did HIStory sell better than "The Wall", "Grease", "Saturday Night Fever" or "The White Album", cause I honesly can't fathom that it did. MJ fans are renouned for exaggerating Jackson's sales.
The Wall was #1 in America for more than a week; it has been on the catalog chart in the US since it's release; Grease has been selling since '77. You're going to honestly say that HIStory has outsold it? Doubtful... so far every where i checked says 18 million for history i did some further investigating and i believ The White Album is in fact the greatest selling double album selling 19 million but HIStory is second... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Axchi696 said: I'm sorry, but I still don't believe that 'Best selling double album of all time' bullshit. Did HIStory sell better than "The Wall", "Grease", "Saturday Night Fever" or "The White Album", cause I honesly can't fathom that it did. MJ fans are renouned for exaggerating Jackson's sales.
The Wall was #1 in America for more than a week; it has been on the catalog chart in the US since it's release; Grease has been selling since '77. You're going to honestly say that HIStory has outsold it? Doubtful... that's all and "the wall" "supposedly" sold more than History but it's probally not counted since it originally wasn't a cd and same with grease, i'm not sure about those and grease came out in 1978 "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: Axchi696 said: I'm sorry, but I still don't believe that 'Best selling double album of all time' bullshit. Did HIStory sell better than "The Wall", "Grease", "Saturday Night Fever" or "The White Album", cause I honesly can't fathom that it did. MJ fans are renouned for exaggerating Jackson's sales.
The Wall was #1 in America for more than a week; it has been on the catalog chart in the US since it's release; Grease has been selling since '77. You're going to honestly say that HIStory has outsold it? Doubtful... that's all and "the wall" "supposedly" sold more than History but it's probally not counted since it originally wasn't a cd and same with grease, i'm not sure about those and grease came out in 1978 yah... i think you're right another problem is there is no Best Double Albums List that i could find... ive been to several sites and they all give conflicting data... that proclaims alot of albums as best selling double disc albums... I see HIStory, The White Album And The Wall , no mention of the grease soundtrack... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: mimi07 said: that's all and "the wall" "supposedly" sold more than History but it's probally not counted since it originally wasn't a cd and same with grease, i'm not sure about those and grease came out in 1978 yah... i think you're right another problem is there is no Best Double Albums List that i could find... ive been to several sites and they all give conflicting data... that proclaims alot of albums as best selling double disc albums... I see HIStory, The White Album And The Wall , no mention of the grease soundtrack... exactly, same here "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: EmbattledWarrior said: yah... i think you're right another problem is there is no Best Double Albums List that i could find... ive been to several sites and they all give conflicting data... that proclaims alot of albums as best selling double disc albums... I see HIStory, The White Album And The Wall , no mention of the grease soundtrack... exactly, same here I did learn some thing that kinda shocked me... did ya know that Blood On the Dancefloor is (allegedly) the best selling Remix album with 6 million? My jaw dropped when i saw that... (now that whole CD was swill, cept for the new tracks) http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._worldwide I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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newpower99 said: 25.
'Pop' U2, 1997 Rise: Ten years after U2 assumed the rock 'n' roll throne, they planned the glitzy Popmart tour as an ironic take on consumerism, and they rushed out the accompanying album to meet the deadline. Fall: The half-baked 'Pop' was so forgettable that U2's next album, 'All That You Can't Leave Behind,' was widely hailed as the band's "comeback" record. Stats: 'The Joshua Tree' (1987), 10 million; 'Pop,' 1.5 million This is my favourite U2 album.  | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: mimi07 said: exactly, same here I did learn some thing that kinda shocked me... did ya know that Blood On the Dancefloor is (allegedly) the best selling Remix album with 6 million? My jaw dropped when i saw that... (now that whole CD was swill, cept for the new tracks) http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._worldwide yeah, i knew that "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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