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Reply #120 posted 05/31/07 4:33pm

CalhounSq

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

CalhounSq said:



Yea, I definitely don't think she wanted to die yet exclaim


I haven't seen this but it sounds fascinating. I really loved Lisa Lopes. I wonder if she had been more advanced or stronger spiritually if she would have been able to stand up to the spirit, rebuke and reject it. It sounds that she was resigned to the spirit being in control? Do they explain how she ended up coming to the conclusion about the spirit?

No, it's very brief text that just says something like "Lisa believed there was a spirit trying to kill her" & something to the effect of it killing the little boy by mistake, the boy than ran in front of the car they were driving in exclaim
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Reply #121 posted 05/31/07 4:39pm

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alwayslate said:

I think she may have pulled a stunt or something on purpose and maybe it got out of hand. She may not have intended to die but then again she may have wanted to kill herself and decided she was gonna try to take those girls with her to keep her company in some wierdo spirit realm or something.

You see her looking into the camera kinda cutting her eyes at the camera almost like "watch this."


How can you say that when she'd been looking into the camera the SAME WAY during the entire doc? confused I think sometimes we see what we wanna see to support our beliefs. shrug

She has the box in her hand and right before the camera pans to the girls in the backseat you can almost see her "thinking" of doing something.


Now that's just goofy lol


She hands them the cards and then the camera is on the girls. And then the car jerks to the left. It jerks again afterwhich you can kinda see her at that time trying to regain control of the car before it heads off the road.
She was so wacko, that I can't help but feel like she at least did that first 'jerk' shit on purpose. All that eerie spooky talk prior to the crash and her cutting words into her arm and shit. She was just a mess. The documentary just made her looked even more fucked up in the head than the press ever did.


I dunno man, I feel like with all she was trying to do to heal herself & have a healthy mind/body/spirit, I just don't see her taking so many lives (including her own) as an absolute JOKE & swerving the car on purpose.

Too bad I already deleted it b/c I wanted to check for something - it seems like the speed @ which the cars were driving on that road was REALLY fast. I remember cars whipping by her, though I can't say for sure if it was this last scene or an earlier one. In any case we all know how fast accidents can happen, & if you swerve to avoid something @ such a high speed you can get fucked up really fast.

Again, none of us were there so these are just opinions. shrug
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Reply #122 posted 05/31/07 4:39pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So Lisa was driving the vehicle when it crashed?

Yes...
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Reply #123 posted 05/31/07 4:49pm

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alwayslate said:

I think she may have pulled a stunt or something on purpose and maybe it got out of hand. She may not have intended to die but then again she may have wanted to kill herself and decided she was gonna try to take those girls with her to keep her company in some wierdo spirit realm or something.

You see her looking into the camera kinda cutting her eyes at the camera almost like "watch this."
She has the box in her hand and right before the camera pans to the girls in the backseat you can almost see her "thinking" of doing something.
She hands them the cards and then the camera is on the girls. And then the car jerks to the left. It jerks again afterwhich you can kinda see her at that time trying to regain control of the car before it heads off the road.
She was so wacko, that I can't help but feel like she at least did that first 'jerk' shit on purpose. All that eerie spooky talk prior to the crash and her cutting words into her arm and shit. She was just a mess. The documentary just made her looked even more fucked up in the head than the press ever did.


Do you know what the fuck you're saying? that this woman's death was a SUICIDE, one, and that she intended to kill/severly injure/cripple her FRIENDS and FAMILY! her brother was in the fucking car. that is not a light accusation. fuck...I can't believe the shit people say online sometimes, the anonymity makes people feel like they can be the most obnoxious/arrogant/full of shit versions of themselves...what if one of Lisa's loved ones was an orger and saw that, you have no idea...i know, Calhoun is gonna say i'm too high strung, but being such a fan of TLC and esp Left Eye, this shit is still too close too home with the doc having just aired...those are some real serious things you are implying...i would think before I typed that.
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Reply #124 posted 05/31/07 6:29pm

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You'll are tripping. I don't think she would've killed herself. She was on such an self-discovering journey in Honduras. Why would she undermine all of that and take herself out? Yeah, she made some mistakes, but to call her crazy and bring up old shit is ridiculous. We weren't there, so we don't know why she swerved, but I have to say, the car didn't seem to be the most luxury car to begin with. She could've just lost control or there could've been something happening in front of the car that we couldn't see. Regardless, you'll are talking some cold shit about a woman who's no longer here to defend herself.

Chill Out


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Reply #125 posted 05/31/07 6:40pm

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I read that post and had to dismiss it. I couldn’t even entertain it and having watched the docu twice, didn’t come away with anything close to that. While everyone views things differently, I have to say that is a stretch and is the opposite of what Lisa was striving for prior to her death.
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Reply #126 posted 05/31/07 7:05pm

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It's truly ridiculous to think she was trying to kill herself when getting into a car crash isn't a GUARANTEE to be killed. eek

If she was gonna take herself out, I'd lean towards a more "one with nature and death" approach like the cliffs where she swam or something like that. She wouldn't have tried to to take out everyone else, that just doesn't make sense.

Plus, if she wanted to roll that SUV, all she had to do was hardcut the car one way and that thing would've rolled real hard, instead she swerveed twice, which tells me she was trying to avoid something by swerving away from it and then she tried to correct it by turning the other way, thus creating a roll.
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Reply #127 posted 05/31/07 8:20pm

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CalhounSq said:

alwayslate said:

I think she may have pulled a stunt or something on purpose and maybe it got out of hand. She may not have intended to die but then again she may have wanted to kill herself and decided she was gonna try to take those girls with her to keep her company in some wierdo spirit realm or something.

You see her looking into the camera kinda cutting her eyes at the camera almost like "watch this."


How can you say that when she'd been looking into the camera the SAME WAY during the entire doc? confused I think sometimes we see what we wanna see to support our beliefs. shrug
true. not that i am saying i know any of this. the way she looked into the camera at that moment seemed different and bizarre to me.



Now that's just goofy lol
lol



I dunno man, I feel like with all she was trying to do to heal herself & have a healthy mind/body/spirit, I just don't see her taking so many lives (including her own) as an absolute JOKE & swerving the car on purpose.


She seemed so far removed from reality to me that any explanation for how this happened is possible, even if it is unlikely, still slightly possible. She seemed to me ( i have to emphasise TO ME for the fans of hers who are screeching like howler monkeys over mine and other folks' statements) to be the kind of person to never ever consider the consequences of her actions- not the consequences for herself and certainley not for anyone else and at least that much is evidenced by how she treated her bandmates and her boyfriend's belongings/house.
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Reply #128 posted 06/01/07 4:52am

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alwayslate said:

I think she may have pulled a stunt or something on purpose and maybe it got out of hand. She may not have intended to die but then again she may have wanted to kill herself and decided she was gonna try to take those girls with her to keep her company in some wierdo spirit realm or something.

You see her looking into the camera kinda cutting her eyes at the camera almost like "watch this."
She has the box in her hand and right before the camera pans to the girls in the backseat you can almost see her "thinking" of doing something.
She hands them the cards and then the camera is on the girls. And then the car jerks to the left. It jerks again afterwhich you can kinda see her at that time trying to regain control of the car before it heads off the road.
She was so wacko, that I can't help but feel like she at least did that first 'jerk' shit on purpose. All that eerie spooky talk prior to the crash and her cutting words into her arm and shit. She was just a mess. The documentary just made her looked even more fucked up in the head than the press ever did.



hmmm interesting viewpoint
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Reply #129 posted 06/01/07 7:27am

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Someone already stated that the only reason it looks eerie when she looks into the camera is because they slow-mo'd that part of the clip.
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Reply #130 posted 06/01/07 7:42am

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Someone already stated that the only reason it looks eerie when she looks into the camera is because they slow-mo'd that part of the clip.

That was ME... I said that... I said it twice... uhh huh... wave
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Reply #131 posted 06/01/07 9:27am

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Do you know what the fuck you're saying? that this woman's death was a SUICIDE, one, and that she intended to kill/severly injure/cripple her FRIENDS and FAMILY! her brother was in the fucking car. that is not a light accusation. fuck...I can't believe the shit people say online sometimes, the anonymity makes people feel like they can be the most obnoxious/arrogant/full of shit versions of themselves...what if one of Lisa's loved ones was an orger and saw that, you have no idea...i know, Calhoun is gonna say i'm too high strung, but being such a fan of TLC and esp Left Eye, this shit is still too close too home with the doc having just aired...those are some real serious things you are implying...i would think before I typed that.

Get mad if you want but I can't be concerned about whether or not a famous person I've commented about on these boards is related to someone who reads them. The fact is that it ain't like she hasn't done things purposely without considering the consequences of her behavior (burning down someone's home for example because she was mad she ain't get no fucking sneakers.) How silly of me to think that she could have maybe done something else stupid without thinking about how people close to her might be affected. I did not say, yeah she killed herself on purpose as if I was sure that's how it went down. I threw it out there as a possibility half-jokingly but only half jokingly because I do believe she had some major mental issues. Sane/stable/logically thinking people do not carve words into their arm. You are a fan of TLC and Left Eye. I liked some of their stuff but I wasn't a fan of theirs so, it is easy for me to say this stuff. I get it-you want to defend her honor or whatever.

I have expressed this same opinion to people in the real world as well as the cyber-realm. The problem with the anonymity I have from participating in the online discussion forums isn't so much that it turns me into an "obnoxious/arrogant/full of shit version of myself" but that it apparently has given you the confidence to try to insult me because you disagree with what I said about a public figure who never even knew who you were.
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