what are you on about? The UK's entry this year was the perfect eurovision song!
It was camp, catchy, easy to sing-a-long to, and it shamelessly named other
countries in it! What more could you ask for from this cheese-fest?!

Babydubistzuschnell said:

I totally agree with you, it was 'pure Eurovision Contest'... but it doesn't mean it wasn't total crap as well!
The funny thing is that these people have been choosen by public vote to be part of the contest. I guess it's just the English way to take the piss out of the whole thing.

AndreC said:

Is the blonde girl on the left offering her ass to me?

I loved the the winning song. Although it was the only song I heard this year.

I have to comment on the politics issues. First of all, even though I haven't heard any of this year's songs, somehow I doubt that this year's UK's entry was any better then the crappy songs from previous Eurovision contests. As for previous German songs, all I can recall right now is a guy named Guildo something. That was pure crap as well. I can't remember any other memorable songs right now, but still. My point is, if the song is crappy, that has nothing to do with politics.

Secondly, Eastern influence is just something people like in music right now. I few years ago it was the Latin/Spanish influence and before that it had to be pure pop, preferably with English lyrics. Ten years ago, the only countries that dared to use ethnic elements in their entries were Cyprus and Turkey. Needles to say, they never got anywhere.

And finally, I'm from Slovenia. Technically Slovenia is a Central European country, but many of you probably think of it as an Eastern-European country. Well whatever it is, we never even get to the finals. We managed to get to the finals this year and it was celebration time, even though our final rank was crap.

ludika said:

Sure

2004
Germany 8th
Spain 10th
France 15th
United Kingdom 16th

2005
Germany 24th
Spain 21st
France 23rd
United Kingdom 22nd

2006
Germany 15th
Spain 21st
France 22nd
United Kingdom 19th

2007
Germany 19th
Spain 20th
France 22nd
United Kingdom 23rd

Taking sentences out of context, real nice. And eye-rolling to go with it. What I said was UK has usually had crappy songs, the only German song I can remember is the one performed by that Guildo guy (=crappy) and as for the rest, I can't remember any.

And it's kind of funny, if you think about it. The UK produces a massive amount oh hits every year. If they ever sent music that was anything like that hits to Eurovision, I'm sure we wouldn't be having this debate right now.

So those 4 countries are sending crappy songs every year since televoting started, huh?

Let's analize Slovenia's Top 3 for the same 4 years

2004
1 Serbia
2 Bosnia-Herzegovina
3 Ukraine

2005
1 Croatia
2 Serbia
3 Bosnia-Herzegovina

2006
1 Bosnia-Herzegovina
2 Croatia
3 Finland

2007
1 Serbia
2 FYR Macedonia
3 Bosnia-Herzegovina

Don't you really smell the stink?

Pandurito you're addicted to Eurovision!

I'm not

PANDURITO said:

I had no idea Finland was a former Yugoslavian state.

PANDURITO said:

Yes, you're a fam!

novabrkr said:

You'd tend to think so, wouldn't you?

Please ludika, don't take my words as a personal attack.
Just stating facts














Cheek, come closer

It's an old joke...

It's not about just "voting for neighbours" because of kindness. There are several million Turkish immigrants living in Germany and apparently the highlight of their lives is "giving Turkey 12 points" each goddamn year. The same thing with Estonia giving 12 points to Russia - I hardly doubt the Estonians themselves would be too keen to vote their old conquerors, but there's still a huge amount of Russians living in the country and the best way to show your loyalty is obviously to vote your old homecountry in the Eurovision song contest.

Invincible1958 said:

I agree, Cicero was the best by far (and I don't say that, because I'm Austrian ) the only song from the show I find worth purchasing. I bought his album several months ago. excellent! a strong contender for my personal album of the year (but then there's Amy Winehouse of course...)


as for the rest, the show was bull of course, so no surprise... and DJ Bobo tanked in the semifinals

i downloaded th album the other day, and it's realy good.
My fave being "Ich atme ein".

I'm gunna be in Germany for a year starting in september, so hopefully i'll be able to catch him in concert whilst i'm there!

Pandurito, point taken

Which leads me to another thing. Do you know how many Croats, Serbs, Bosnians and other former Yugoslavians live in Slovenia? A LOT. And not only in Slovenia. I think migration is a big factor here.
[Edited 5/16/07 4:07am]

ludika said:

Stefan Raab (german TV entertainer) wrote and composed 3 german entries in the last 10 years.

1998 "Guildo hat euch lieb" Guildo Horn (7th place)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3q7Y3fgTIc

2000 "Wadde Hadde Dudde Da?" Stefan Raab (5th place)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...v7_hJpbPgo

2004 "Can't Wait Until Tonight" Max Mutzke (8th place)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DRN9-EuMh0

I think, Raab is a very good composer. With his songs we always entered the Top 10. "Can't Wait Until Tonight" is one of the best songs coming out of Germany in the last 10 years, I think.

And in 2004 he also did a great duet with Shaggy:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...0i9Li96OCw

And you could imagine that Raab is a very big fan of James Brown. Here are his scenes with James from the last coulpe of years:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ii2GkkuhYg
[Edited 5/16/07 8:15am]