Militant said:

both of them are superstars, without a doubt. Tupac is practically becoming a religious icon.

NDRU said:

Which is scary because I think his importance to music is greatly over-emphasized. Yes he was a good rapper but he was very inconsistent and sent many mixed messages in his music. And contrary to popular belief, I don't think he was the "best rapper" in any way shape or form. The has been put on this pedestal and similar to the way our government demands that Bush's actions not be questioned, there is a generation of kids that worship 2Pac and demand that it not be questioned even though most can't explain why. I guess that's another thread. Back to Sananda, please.

BlaqueKnight said:

As an associate of his people and long time admirer, I could DEFINATELY explain to you why. In fact, I'm giving a talk at one of the top universities in the UK about 'Pac tomorrow.

He certainly wasn't the "best rapper" in a traditional sense of flows and rhyme patterns, but lyrically, he was a poet in the highest sense of the word, more so than any other hip-hop artist - listen to something like "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" as a prime example, not to mention "Changes".

I think it's encouraging that a whole generation and many more to come find him so inspiring. Every ounce of his spirit exudes what it is to be young, angry, oppressed and and frustrated, and as I said in my BBC documentary about him, he proved that the struggles and problems in your life don't hold you back, they EMPOWER you.

Militant said:

ummm..can we start a new thread on this but i just dont see how anyone can look at a black man's tragic death as empowering.



sowwy...

so nobody has knowledge of this TTD show i attended in DC in 1987?

archive anywhere other than his own site maybe?

sosgemini said:

I wasn't talking about his death, rather his life. By your logic MLK, Malcolm X and Huey P Newton weren't inspiring or ever empowered anyone either.

TTD was a great artist, like Prince in some ways but alot different also. His first album was one of the best debuts ever, and there's alot of gems to be found on his other albums too. I don't like much of the stuff he's put out as Sananda though!

Militant said:

Those deaths were not caused by superficial turf wars.

Pac wasn't the best rapper by any means, many have achieved poetic depth complexity in their rhymes. i give him the category of most 'impactful' becuase of his willingness to be complex and emotionally vulnerable on wax even if it meant contradicting himself. he was a hip-hop Marvin Gaye to me, a tortured soul. caught between and betwixt.

TTD and Prince DO have a lot of similarities. Can't put my finger on what bugs me about TTD though, i think its his inconsistency and that sometimes the songwriting can seemed forced. like sometimes he just looks for "flowery language" or something. i think sometimes he sprawls sonically just to PROVE that he IS diverse and that's so not necessary.

FunkJam said:

"sure, some ways the same:
2 arms
2 legs, plenty teeth,

And er.. well yes he's a black musician."

Man this is what you sound like!

In This video TTD is wearing. Doesn't it remind you Prince during the Christopher Tracy performance in 1986 ?... And look at his moves...


http://www.youtube.com/v/hTDGCnhB6TY


After watching that, how many people can still claim that TTD wasn't
influence by Prince ?




Prince was the only guy wearing this kinda of stuff before TTD and dancing like that ...

thedribbler said:

You talk as if I said he was a Prince copy!!!

sosgemini said:

Neither was Tupac's.

Anx said:

I think he actually said that about The Hardline, and later joked that Neither Fish was better than Exile on Main Street.

Neither Fish was good, but too weird on the surface. The cover (now THAT's prince-like!) and the first couple songs are odd. But the album as a whole is not that weird. But it didn't have the obvious single choices that Hardline did.

As great as Sananda is, there's only one Prince.

BlaqueKnight said:

NDRU said:

.....just like Elvis?

NWF said:

As great as Prince is, there's only one Sananda!

PurpleJedi said:

That look IS NOT a Prince thing...it's an 80's thing!

Quit hating on Sananda, his music is awesome, we need more artist like him so please stop hating for silly reasons....don't take that personal though, fellow orgers.


P.S. I am NOT a Boy George fan, just wanted to make my point!

krayzie said:

Yes the cute james brown moves, I don't know who did them b4 james brown did.
But the lack of high heels, I think he's wearing white socks Isn't that like M.J.


How often has prince copied jimi Hendrix?

Oh and Jack White and bob Dylan have also been known to wear similar hats. And yes, I know the last 2 mentioned are white men.