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PrintableNWF said: Sowhat said: Are you kidding.....with songs like "Alligator Woman", "Soul Army","Flirt", "Be Yourself", "I owe it all to you".....THAT is why so many people dig this album so much! I mean, I have the singles on a best of CD, but I don't have the whole album. And since the album isn't in print or hasn't been remastered, it's a little hard to find. (*cough* *cough* any offers? *cough* *cough*) But I can't deny the absolute funkiness of "Be Yourself" and "Flirt". Those were some wicked ass jams. I wish I could help you  , but I simply cannot find "Alligator Woman" anywhere. I have bought several Cameo compilation albums to try to get as many songs from that album as possible, but I have only Got Alligator Woman/Secrets of Time, Be Yourself, Flirt, and I owe it all to you. I had it on cassette way back in the day, but all my cassettes from back then don't work anymore.
I don't know why Alligator Woman was ever re-issued since other Cameo classics like Ugly Ego, Secret Omen, Cameosis, Knights of the Sound Table, We all Know who we are, She's Strange, Word Up have all been re-issued????? . [Edited 3/28/07 13:47pm] "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Sowhat said: NWF said: I mean, I have the singles on a best of CD, but I don't have the whole album. And since the album isn't in print or hasn't been remastered, it's a little hard to find. (*cough* *cough* any offers? *cough* *cough*) But I can't deny the absolute funkiness of "Be Yourself" and "Flirt". Those were some wicked ass jams. I wish I could help you , but I simply cannot find "Alligator Woman" anywhere. I have bought several Cameo compilation albums to try to get as many songs from that album as possible, but I have only Got Alligator Woman/Secrets of Time, Be Yourself, Flirt, and I owe it all to you. I had it on cassette way back in the day, but all my cassettes from back then don't work anymore.
I don't know why Alligator Woman was ever re-issued since other Cameo classics like Ugly Ego, Secret Omen, Cameosis, Knights of the Sound Table, We all Know who we are, She's Strange, Word Up have all been re-issued????? . [Edited 3/28/07 13:47pm] I don't know why myself, but I think it's about time they did remaster them. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: Sowhat said: I wish I could help you , but I simply cannot find "Alligator Woman" anywhere. I have bought several Cameo compilation albums to try to get as many songs from that album as possible, but I have only Got Alligator Woman/Secrets of Time, Be Yourself, Flirt, and I owe it all to you. I had it on cassette way back in the day, but all my cassettes from back then don't work anymore.
I don't know why Alligator Woman was ever re-issued since other Cameo classics like Ugly Ego, Secret Omen, Cameosis, Knights of the Sound Table, We all Know who we are, She's Strange, Word Up have all been re-issued????? . [Edited 3/28/07 13:47pm] I don't know why myself, but I think it's about time they did remaster them.  !!!!!"Always blessings, never losses......"
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NWF said: This thread is dedicated to one of the baddest Funk bands of the 70's and 80's (as well as all time). I remember that thread a while back about favorite albums by them and I started this long drawn-out debate about which era of Cameo was the most important. I said that they really found their sound and identity when they started moving into Synth-Funk and codpieces.
 I believe that began with the "She's Strange" album. Or maybe it was "Style". I got some heat for that however because I also said that before their move into the mainstream, they were just another Funk band that sounded like second-rate versions of their contemporaries (P-Funk, EWF, Ohio Players, etc.). I'm kinda worng about that since upon further listening I'd say they really found themselves when they released "Cameosis". But that's neither here nor there.
Anyways, this band has been my lastest flame for the past 4 months, and since there's no major sites devoted to them, I have a few unanswered questions: What are the details of bassist Michael Burnett's recent death? Will their records be remasted and re-released? What's the story with Wayne Cooper? (who was an amazing falsetto singer, even better than dare I say, Prince); Why is "Alligator Woman" the most popular among fans? Is Larry Blackmon really crazy? Will there be another tour this year (a 30-year retrospect would be quite nice actually)? What's this I'm hearing about the "Cameo Collective" concert coming up in Minneapolis? How funky is "I Just Want To Be"? What was up with that codpiece? Will there be a new Cameo album? What was with the numerous line-up changes? What's this rumor I heard about the band performing on the soundtrack to the upcoming "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" movie?.....and so forth and so on.
With all that said, Cameo is the funky ass truth!   I had no idea that this had happened! Shit!!! I've always loved Cameo since I was just a kid! I'm always sure to see them every time they come around my way. They are my favorite funk band of all time.
Top picks: Candy, We're Going Out Tonight, Skin I'm In, Single Life, Keep It Hot, Secrets Of Time, Freaky Dancing, Why Have I Lost You (original version) . ..."think from a positive place, and eliminate the negative fate"... | |
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CANDY SPARKLE ATTACK ME WITH YOUR LOVE HANGING DOWNTOWN SHAKE YOUR PANTS I'M NOT SHOUTING, JEEZ! | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: SoulAlive said: It's a better album than 'Word Up',imo Word Up is overrated. I can't beleive this dumb-ass said Word Up is overrated. Not only is it one of the funkiest songs of all time, it's also one of my fave Cameo albums. I used to playit back and forth (get it). Secret Omen and Cameosis are also great gems to have. The song Single Life bu itself reminds me of me. A true player to the end. Peace! Peace and be wild! | |
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NWF said: Yeah, a lot of the die-heard Cameo heads were hating on "Word Up" since it became so commercially successful. But really, what's wrong with that? I don't think it was any less funky as the rest of their work. Also, they were the guys that helped kick-start the whole New Jack funk that would make up the late 80's R&B music."
IMO, some people hate on "Word Up!" for no other reason than it became an unexpected crossover hit; you can't accuse Cameo of changing its sound because the song is a clone of "Single Life" (a song most Cameo fans generally dig). As for the New Jack Swing connection, there is none. "Word Up!" is a funk song using a popular catchphrase typically associated with rappers; Teddy Riley's sound used rap elements over R&B music to give it an edge. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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LoDog said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Word Up is overrated. I can't beleive this dumb-ass said Word Up is overrated. Not only is it one of the funkiest songs of all time, it's also one of my fave Cameo albums. I used to playit back and forth (get it). Secret Omen and Cameosis are also great gems to have. The song Single Life bu itself reminds me of me. A true player to the end. Peace! Nah, fuck that! Word Up is overrated! The song, that is. ..."think from a positive place, and eliminate the negative fate"... | |
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NWF said: "But you know, times were changing and I can see why Larry downsized the group. Horns were out and synths were in. Not that it was really a bad thing. I mean, that's how they came up with stuff like 'She's Strange' and 'Single Life.'
But why do people still dig 'Alligator Woman' so much?" It's album where Larry Blackmon downsized Cameo and dramatically changed its sound. The changeover allowed Cameo to stay relevant for another eight years. Also, "Alligator Woman" was the band's most consistent album -- and in this case, consistently good. I have the album on compact disc (I bought it as an import eight years ago) and it's worth owning. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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LoDog said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Word Up is overrated. I can't beleive this dumb-ass said Word Up is overrated. Not only is it one of the funkiest songs of all time, it's also one of my fave Cameo albums. I used to playit back and forth (get it). Secret Omen and Cameosis are also great gems to have. The song Single Life bu itself reminds me of me. A true player to the end. Peace! Riiight. You're the guy who said Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey are the greatest R&B singers ever 
... and Word Up is overrated. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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NWF said: Sowhat said: I wish I could help you , but I simply cannot find "Alligator Woman" anywhere. I have bought several Cameo compilation albums to try to get as many songs from that album as possible, but I have only Got Alligator Woman/Secrets of Time, Be Yourself, Flirt, and I owe it all to you. I had it on cassette way back in the day, but all my cassettes from back then don't work anymore.
I don't know why Alligator Woman was ever re-issued since other Cameo classics like Ugly Ego, Secret Omen, Cameosis, Knights of the Sound Table, We all Know who we are, She's Strange, Word Up have all been re-issued????? . [Edited 3/28/07 13:47pm] I don't know why myself, but I think it's about time they did remaster them. add Rigor Mortis to that list  | |
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I wouldn't say we are hating on word up because it was commercially
successful on the pop charts. It was just plastic funk. It was okay but overrated compared to their earlier stuff. Songs like keep it hot, shake your pants, soul army, be yourself,freaky dancing,style,i just wanna be were just funkier and raw. As for larry downsizing the band to obtain commercial success or whatever as someone earlier stated, ewf or kook & the gang obtained that same success without downsizing. The band was tighter before they downsized but still okay during their word up era. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: I wouldn't say we are hating on word up because it was commercially
successful on the pop charts. It was just plastic funk. It was okay but overrated compared to their earlier stuff. Songs like keep it hot, shake your pants, soul army, be yourself,freaky dancing,style,i just wanna be were just funkier and raw. As for larry downsizing the band to obtain commercial success or whatever as someone earlier stated, ewf or kook & the gang obtained that same success without downsizing. The band was tighter before they downsized but still okay during their word up era.  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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One of the best funk bands ever, especially from the beginning of their career through the "Alligator Woman" album. They got weaker after that but they still were OK. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: One of the best funk bands ever, especially from the beginning of their career through the "Alligator Woman" album. They got weaker after that but they still were OK.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: LoDog said: I can't beleive this dumb-ass said Word Up is overrated. Not only is it one of the funkiest songs of all time, it's also one of my fave Cameo albums. I used to playit back and forth (get it). Secret Omen and Cameosis are also great gems to have. The song Single Life bu itself reminds me of me. A true player to the end. Peace! Riiight. You're the guy who said Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey are the greatest R&B singers ever
... and Word Up is overrated. That explains why "Word Up" is his favorite Cameo album. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: That explains why "Word Up" is his favorite Cameo album. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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phunkdaddy said:
I wouldn't say we are hating on word up because it was commercially successful on the pop charts. I am.
Seriously though, I love the song "Word Up". It's the other songs on the album such as "Candy" and "Back and Forth" that are weak as hell compared to Cameo's earlier work. As Najee said earlier, Cameo had dramatically changed it's sound earlier (which I found weaker than before).....but it's the fact that "Word Up" had pop success that irks me. I've seen too many great R&B or funk acts lose their strength after they achieve pop success.
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vainandy said: phunkdaddy said:
I wouldn't say we are hating on word up because it was commercially successful on the pop charts. I am.
Seriously though, I love the song "Word Up". It's the other songs on the album such as "Candy" and "Back and Forth" that are weak as hell compared to Cameo's earlier work. As Najee said earlier, Cameo had dramatically changed it's sound earlier (which I found weaker than before).....but it's the fact that "Word Up" had pop success that irks me. I've seen too many great R&B or funk acts lose their strength after they achieve pop success.
. . [Edited 3/29/07 9:43am] I know for a fact larry blackmon had been complaining about the lack of commercial success after the single life album so maybe he and the record company had a lot to do with promoting the album to pop radio. Even if word up had not received the commercial success it did i still think most fans would still agree the album was stale compared to earlier stuff. Even the single life album was not that great. Side one of that album was the shit. But side two of that album sucked hard. The band does a great live version of i've got your image from single life. I had the opportunity to meet cameo backstage in 1996 after a show in columbia,sc. Larry and Tomi are both cool as hell. Nathan Leftenant is wild as hell. He was smoking a cig and i said what's up nate cameo still got it. He said hell yeah man what you think we getting old. We started talking about cameo's live album they were doing at the time and music in general. They really are cool guys that don't let the show biz get to their head. Don't laugh at my funk
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vainandy said: One of the best funk bands ever, especially from the beginning of their career through the "Alligator Woman" album. They got weaker after that but they still were OK.
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There is one Cameo album that I've never heard...their 1983 'Style' album.This is a mysterious album that came and went.In my area,the title track got a little airplay but I never heard anything else from this album.Is it any good? Anybody recommend this album? What are the standout tracks? | |
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SoulAlive said: There is one Cameo album that I've never heard...their 1983 'Style' album.This is a mysterious album that came and went.In my area,the title track got a little airplay but I never heard anything else from this album.Is it any good? Anybody recommend this album? What are the standout tracks?
Come to think of it, neither have I. It's almost never mentioned anywhere... heck, I've probably never even seen the album cover. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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Oh wait, I do recall seeing this album cover once before
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FuNkeNsteiN said: SoulAlive said: There is one Cameo album that I've never heard...their 1983 'Style' album.This is a mysterious album that came and went.In my area,the title track got a little airplay but I never heard anything else from this album.Is it any good? Anybody recommend this album? What are the standout tracks?
Come to think of it, neither have I. It's almost never mentioned anywhere... heck, I've probably never even seen the album cover. It seems to be a rare,forgotten album.Does anyone know what the singles were (besides the title track)? I wonder why it didn't get as much attention as the album that came before it ('Alligator Woman') and the album that came after it ('She's Strange'). Does it continue the synth-New Wave-styled funk of 'Alligator Woman'? | |
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SoulAlive said: Does it continue the synth-New Wave-styled funk of 'Alligator Woman'?
You could, of course, purchase it from GEMM.Com and find out... http://www1.gemm.com/item...881674665/ It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: SoulAlive said: Does it continue the synth-New Wave-styled funk of 'Alligator Woman'?
You could, of course, purchase it from GEMM.Com and find out... http://www1.gemm.com/item...881674665/ Thanks for the link.I'm sure I'll eventually come across it during one of my vinyl digs I can find it for much cheaper than $16.00. | |
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SoulAlive said: FuNkeNsteiN said:
You could, of course, purchase it from GEMM.Com and find out... http://www1.gemm.com/item...881674665/ Thanks for the link.I'm sure I'll eventually come across it during one of my vinyl digs I can find it for much cheaper than $16.00.Yea well, you're in the States. It's much easier to go on vinyl digs and find funk lps over there than it is over here in Finland It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: SoulAlive said: Thanks for the link.I'm sure I'll eventually come across it during one of my vinyl digs I can find it for much cheaper than $16.00.Yea well, you're in the States. It's much easier to go on vinyl digs and find funk lps over there than it is over here in Finland I'm surprised that people in Finland even know what funk is (just kidding) | |
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SoulAlive said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Yea well, you're in the States. It's much easier to go on vinyl digs and find funk lps over there than it is over here in Finland I'm surprised that people in Finland even know what funk is (just kidding) Unfortunately, most don't. There are some of us around but like 80% of the population listen to metal music It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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