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Printablemissfee said:[quote] BlaqueKnight said: okay, so what?? I never said I didn't like Jon B. in fact i like both artists, I just like Robin better. And that's it. Nothing wrong with that. My point was that Robin is the "watered down" one, not Jon. | |
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Since I don't really care for either one of them, here's a bit of a...
...curveball on the theme. Lewis Taylor is what/was Robin Thicke/Jon B./Justin/[fill the blank] could never be. True OR False? 
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BlaqueKnight said:
Jon gets shafted because he's too R&B for a white dude. I call it the Teena Marie syndrome. Both Robin and Jon are boring as hell. The only white delight for my funky appetite has been Teena Marie. That bitch could bring on the hard ass shaking funk. However, once she left Rick James she wasn't near as good as she used to be. Like I always say, behind every great woman is a great man. Give a woman more power and she'll cut down on the funk every time. 
As for those other two guys, it's like roles got reversed. Teena had some hard funk like males would do and the two guys got the sissified weak shit. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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theAudience said: Lewis Taylor[/url] is what/was Robin Thicke/Jon B./Justin/[fill the blank] could never be. True OR False?
True. True. True. Lewis is miles ahead of both of them, and that's coming from someone who's bought and enjoyed albums from all 3. Lewis is the most talented of those artists. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Lewis is miles ahead of both of them, and that's coming from someone who's bought and enjoyed albums from all 3. Lewis is the most talented of those artists. And supposedly has given it all up. 
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vainandy said: Both Robin and Jon are boring as hell. The only white delight for my funky appetite has been Teena Marie. That bitch could bring on the hard ass shaking funk. However, once she left Rick James she wasn't near as good as she used to be. Like I always say, behind every great woman is a great man. Give a woman more power and she'll cut down on the funk every time.
As for those other two guys, it's like roles got reversed. Teena had some hard funk like males would do and the two guys got the sissified weak shit.  You continue to slay me on a daily basis.
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theAudience said: vainandy said: Both Robin and Jon are boring as hell. The only white delight for my funky appetite has been Teena Marie. That bitch could bring on the hard ass shaking funk. However, once she left Rick James she wasn't near as good as she used to be. Like I always say, behind every great woman is a great man. Give a woman more power and she'll cut down on the funk every time.
As for those other two guys, it's like roles got reversed. Teena had some hard funk like males would do and the two guys got the sissified weak shit. You continue to slay me on a daily basis.
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I hope you mean slay as in crack you up.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I hope you mean slay as in crack you up.Zactly. 
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BlaqueKnight said:[quote] missfee said: BlaqueKnight said: okay, so what?? I never said I didn't like Jon B. in fact i like both artists, I just like Robin better. And that's it. Nothing wrong with that. My point was that Robin is the "watered down" one, not Jon. okay, but thats your opinion, it's not fact. i respect it. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Mr. Taylor is in a league all his own. | |
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you know i was thinking of this just the other day. i saw jon b's video and wondered why he missed out on the great white r&b hype that seems to be popular at the moment. maybe if he came out now he would have doen better but then again he's still around and not getting much airplay compared to Justin and Robin Thicke. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Thank you, Graycap. People forget that Robin's CD was done a good year before Justin's. I posted about him ages ago becuase I had the promo CD long before it came out. He got n0 push at first. As soon as Sexyback dropped, BOOM! Its the battle of the blue-eyed soul brothers. Robin's first release from his 2nd CD was that lame, lmae, lame ass "Wanna Love You Girl" with Pharrell - a total garbage track. The only reason it got pushed out first was because Pharrell was hot at that moment. If Justin hadn't jumped off like he did, Robin would probably be headed the way of Jon as far as popularity goes. The difference is Robin has a rich dad who can make calls and push buttons for him,plus [b]he went the "pop" route with his CD or as I call it - the escape route. Its a way for white singers dabbling in R&B to opt out of R&B if they don't get accepted well enough to sell. They are usually crossover songs designed to go over better with a non-R&B audience. Listen to a "blue-eyed soul" artist's CD. There are usually a couple of tracks on there designed for that purpose. Pink, Christina, etc. all have them. Jon doesn't have them and Remy Shand doesn't have them. Teena never had them. [/b]
I'm curious to know which songs of Thicke's you think are "pop" (as opposed to "R&B"). With so much of pop and R&B being dominated by rap, I'd actually call that CD one of the most "R&B-sounding" of 2006. Furthermore, looking at his two albums together, I think it's clear that he is eclectic and can pull off different styles (like, say, Van Hunt, who made the only album I liked more last year). BTW, I like Jon B, but I'd never pick him over Thicke, whose two albums are both more consistent than anything Jon's done IMO. [Edited 3/22/07 16:03pm] "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Jon B is better
he's old school compared to todays shit and at least he got 2pac to do a song with him, he earned his respect robin thicke is ok, but he looks and sounds too much like justin timberlake if he doesnt keep his beard and mustache in fact, if you hadn't ever seen a picture of robin thicke before, you would think it was justin, the resemblance is uncanny at least jon B was smart enough to be an Ali G lookalike before Ali G was even invented, he actually predicted the future with his own goatee style, which Ali G /Baron Cohen/Borat copied | |
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AlexdeParis said: BlaqueKnight said: Thank you, Graycap. People forget that Robin's CD was done a good year before Justin's. I posted about him ages ago becuase I had the promo CD long before it came out. He got n0 push at first. As soon as Sexyback dropped, BOOM! Its the battle of the blue-eyed soul brothers. Robin's first release from his 2nd CD was that lame, lmae, lame ass "Wanna Love You Girl" with Pharrell - a total garbage track. The only reason it got pushed out first was because Pharrell was hot at that moment. If Justin hadn't jumped off like he did, Robin would probably be headed the way of Jon as far as popularity goes. The difference is Robin has a rich dad who can make calls and push buttons for him,plus [b]he went the "pop" route with his CD or as I call it - the escape route. Its a way for white singers dabbling in R&B to opt out of R&B if they don't get accepted well enough to sell. They are usually crossover songs designed to go over better with a non-R&B audience. Listen to a "blue-eyed soul" artist's CD. There are usually a couple of tracks on there designed for that purpose. Pink, Christina, etc. all have them. Jon doesn't have them and Remy Shand doesn't have them. Teena never had them. [/b]
I'm curious to know which songs of Thicke's you think are "pop" (as opposed to "R&B"). With so much of pop and R&B being dominated by rap, I'd actually call that CD one of the most "R&B-sounding" of 2006. Furthermore, looking at his two albums together, I think it's clear that he is eclectic and can pull off different styles (like, say, Van Hunt, who made the only album I liked more last year). BTW, I like Jon B, but I'd never pick him over Thicke, whose two albums are both more consistent than anything Jon's done IMO. [Edited 3/22/07 16:03pm] U liked Thicke's first cd? | |
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Graycap23 said: AlexdeParis said: I'm curious to know which songs of Thicke's you think are "pop" (as opposed to "R&B"). With so much of pop and R&B being dominated by rap, I'd actually call that CD one of the most "R&B-sounding" of 2006. Furthermore, looking at his two albums together, I think it's clear that he is eclectic and can pull off different styles (like, say, Van Hunt, who made the only album I liked more last year). BTW, I like Jon B, but I'd never pick him over Thicke, whose two albums are both more consistent than anything Jon's done IMO. [Edited 3/22/07 16:03pm] U liked Thicke's first cd?  Don't you always ask me that? Didn't you buy it, listen to it once, and then give it away? Yeah, I love that CD. "Brand New Jones," "Oh Shooter," "The Stupid Things"...  "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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theAudience said: Since I don't really care for either one of them, here's a bit of a...
...curveball on the theme. Lewis Taylor is what/was Robin Thicke/Jon B./Justin/[fill the blank] could never be. True OR False?
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 [Edited 3/22/07 13:09pm] Lewis Taylor is funky (even if the song is mid-tempo). THIS man could eat Justin alive!!!!  | |
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vainandy said: BlaqueKnight said:
Jon gets shafted because he's too R&B for a white dude. I call it the Teena Marie syndrome. Both Robin and Jon are boring as hell. The only white delight for my funky appetite has been Teena Marie. That bitch could bring on the hard ass shaking funk. However, once she left Rick James she wasn't near as good as she used to be. Like I always say, behind every great woman is a great man. Give a woman more power and she'll cut down on the funk every time.
As for those other two guys, it's like roles got reversed. Teena had some hard funk like males would do and the two guys got the sissified weak shit. 
You were saying?..... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Thank you, Graycap. People forget that Robin's CD was done a good year before Justin's. I posted about him ages ago becuase I had the promo CD long before it came out. He got n0 push at first. As soon as Sexyback dropped, BOOM! Its the battle of the blue-eyed soul brothers. Robin's first release from his 2nd CD was that lame, lmae, lame ass "Wanna Love You Girl" with Pharrell - a total garbage track. The only reason it got pushed out first was because Pharrell was hot at that moment. If Justin hadn't jumped off like he did, Robin would probably be headed the way of Jon as far as popularity goes. The difference is Robin has a rich dad who can make calls and push buttons for him,plus he went the "pop" route with his CD or as I call it - the escape route. Its a way for white singers dabbling in R&B to opt out of R&B if they don't get accepted well enough to sell. They are usually crossover songs designed to go over better with a non-R&B audience. Listen to a "blue-eyed soul" artist's CD. There are usually a couple of tracks on there designed for that purpose. Pink, Christina, etc. all have them. Jon doesn't have them and Remy Shand doesn't have them. Teena never had them.
First of all, Robin isn't "dabbling" in r&b. He's been an r&b songwriter for many years. He father doesn't have anything to do with his music career. Robin should have blown up 5 years ago, but he was forgotten. He didn't go the pop route. Many people in the industry knew who Robin was, behind the scenes. Many of them went to his shows 5 years ago. Pharrell took interest in himbecause he saw Interscope was doing nothing with him after NuAmerica disappeared. His publicist was shitty. Pharrel's crossover popularity and true belief in Robin's talent is what got people noticing who he was. If Pharrell didn't promote him ya'll motherfuckers would still be saying "Robin who?" The label is still fucking with him. "Wanna Love U Girl" was released 4th quarter 2005 and "Lost Without U" wasn't released until 4th quarter 2006. What the fuck is that? You call that good management? Strong support from the label? Hell no. Singles should be released every 2 month. Promotion for this album should be finished already. I'm so sick of this shit. Robin is getting the attention he rightfully deserves. He deserves more. He's not a fucking overnight success | |
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I'm a bit confused by people continuing to put this cat in a box. I never considered Robin to be blue-eyed soul. I never considered him to be R&B. I really never cared. His first album is all over the place and so is the second. | |
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theAudience said: And supposedly has given it all up.
Strange world we live in. If I were he, I'd be extremely frustrated in a world where I couldn't get arrested for the most part, and some kid who was singing backup on the Mickey Mouse Club while I was recording a ballad like "Song" is now being hailed as this generation's answer to Michael Jackson and Prince. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: If I were he
I think you just became my favorite Orger! Grammatically correct use of both the subjunctive mood and a subject complement...  "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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I never really cared for Jon B.To me,he always sounded like a second-rate Babyface clone 
but I agree with something BlaqueKnight said...."Wanna Love U Girl" is a whack song Robin sounds better without any guest stars or hip-hop beats.The strongest tracks on his CD are the songs that feature no hip-hop elements at all ("Can U Believe","Teach U A Lesson","I Need Love",etc) | |
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Stymie said: I'm a bit confused by people continuing to put this cat in a box. I never considered Robin to be blue-eyed soul. I never considered him to be R&B. I really never cared. His first album is all over the place and so is the second.
I never heard his first album....is it any good? I remember seeing a video from it....he's riding around on a bicycle,and the song is sampling "A Fifth Of Beethoven" Not sure what to make of it,lol | |
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SoulAlive said: Stymie said: I'm a bit confused by people continuing to put this cat in a box. I never considered Robin to be blue-eyed soul. I never considered him to be R&B. I really never cared. His first album is all over the place and so is the second.
I never heard his first album....is it any good? I remember seeing a video from it....he's riding around on a bicycle,and the song is sampling "A Fifth Of Beethoven" Not sure what to make of it,lolRobin kinda reminds me of Van Hunt in the sense that the album doesn't really have a genre you can place it in. The bicycle song, is my favorite Robin Thicke song. | |
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Stymie said: SoulAlive said: I never heard his first album....is it any good? I remember seeing a video from it....he's riding around on a bicycle,and the song is sampling "A Fifth Of Beethoven" Not sure what to make of it,lolRobin kinda reminds me of Van Hunt in the sense that the album doesn't really have a genre you can place it in. The bicycle song, is my favorite Robin Thicke song.I will definitely pick it up | |
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AlexdeParis said: namepeace said: If I were he
I think you just became my favorite Orger! Grammatically correct use of both the subjunctive mood and a subject complement... Thank you very much! Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: theAudience said: And supposedly has given it all up.
Strange world we live in. If I were he, I'd be extremely frustrated in a world where I couldn't get arrested for the most part, and some kid who was singing backup on the Mickey Mouse Club while I was recording a ballad like "Song" is now being hailed as this generation's answer to Michael Jackson and Prince. That's a valid argument. Somewhere in the back of my mind, i'm thinking that fear of success might also play a role. Maybe I read it somewhere that he's come close before and bolted. Anyway, just a super talented cat. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Somewhere in the back of my mind, i'm thinking that fear of success might also play a role. Maybe I read it somewhere that he's come close before and bolted. Anyway, just a super talented cat. Have you ever seen him and Shuggie Otis at the same time? Curiouser and curiouser . . . Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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phunkdaddy said: Jon B simply suffered from babyfacitis just as tony rich did. I mean it
was only so much of babyface you could absorb. So if people got tired of the original, why would you want to hear a lot from the sound alikes. AMEN to that!! | |
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menace said: phunkdaddy said: Jon B simply suffered from babyfacitis just as tony rich did. I mean it
was only so much of babyface you could absorb. So if people got tired of the original, why would you want to hear a lot from the sound alikes. AMEN to that!! But his sound is nothing like Babyface at all. Thats the problem,people dont look past his first album...which had a few Babyface like songs. Oh well...I love JB and Im gonna keep on loving his music. "Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
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