Joss and Raphael taking the Producer/Artist relationship to new heights

Art.....isn't it grand?

Graycap23 said:

Raphael....isn't he grand?

Ahem. Is that a on her back?

Graycap23 said:

...but I do love that Benetton ad of theirs. It's shocking!
I'm feeling shocked.

I actually like the form but not the texture or full execution. Is this finished art? Either way, I also like that it's provocative and still clean.

alrighty then...

joss stone is..how can i put it... STONE COLD SHIT.

3121 said:

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not down with the lingo of you youngsters, these days...

peterfalconer said:

i mean that in a bad way (and i dontmean bad as in good) lol. There are black soul singers that would sing that little faker under the table. shit, there are white females singers that could dust her. she has gotten very lucky.

banks said:

I guess she fucks EVERYONE for tracks

3121 said:

I don't like her either, myself. But then again I'm not fond of "Soul" singing, anyway - most of the time it's just a collection of licks and nothing to do with emotion.

And since you mention it, there are countless black singers who have been deemed "soulful" simply because they're black. Race has nothing to do with "soul" - quite frankly the abuse that girl got when she won best urban act at the Brits a few years ago was disgusting. Since when did "urban" mean "black"?

There is even more of a double standard when discussing Joss and others like Alicia Keys. Now im not gonna get into defending Joss's talent again, because if you like her,cool, if you dont, turn the page. But the bigger issue that seems to bother me is this whole "faker" "wannabe" labeling going round conerning Joss. And Yet someone like Robin Thicke is held up like the Fucking messiah of soul, now not knocking him, but cut me a break with this guy already he is not even worthy of a quarter of the praise he is getting, the press is kinder to him for many reasons, one, he is a male, and two, he looks the part, case closed. But what does strike me when i see the blasting of Joss and others with talent and at least respect for the music that was before them, is how we do pick on those with talent and let others slip by un marked. The other day i saw this interview with Norah Jones talking about music that she grew up on, and i guarantee if you quizzed todays POP stars like a Justin on the artists she mentioned he wouldnt know one of them, theres alot to be said of those who respect what was before them and some just do that.

She sounds like a watered down Beyonce and one Beyonce is enough to me.

LQ

I think I'm one of the few joss stone fans here!

MikeMatronik said:

There are plenty of Joss Stone fans around, don't worry - and to be honest, I think she's got as good a voice as any of her contemporaries in her genre. I just don't like that genre!

peterfalconer said:

I feel sometimes that she's dismissed because she's white, young and british!

MikeMatronik said:

She is, and even though I don't like the girl, it pisses me off something rotten (see my earlier posts!)

MikeMatronik said:

Dont forget that she is also female too, that has alot of play in why she gets dismissed, if she was male she would be the second coming!

lastdecember said:

I agree...

MikeMatronik said:

Interesting. White, British and otherwise I dig her music.

banks said:

Oh my God. This. Is Beautiful.

Stone is definitely a talented vocalist. My problem with her is that she tries too hard. I don't believe anything she sings.


As for Saadiq freakin' Stone - my momma told me that if I don't have anything nice to say, shut the hell up.

SynthiaRose said:

That cinder block wall, in the back, doesn't bother you? The sculptural element is beautiful but, it would have been so much better if they popped from a black background (or in the very least, got rid of the borders). There's too much of the wrong kind of clash going on. It's takes away from the best part.

anon said:

I agree, the painted bodies intertwined look great, but what's with all that other nonsense going on? When you have an image as strong as that you don't need anything else fighting for attention.

anon said:

I was SO focused on them, I didn't even notice. I'm like ..what is anon talking about... what block wall??

But yes. That's awful. I do like contrast, but that is indeed the wrong kind.

SynthiaRose said:

I don't understand how things like this happen. All it takes is an intern with 3 minutes on their hands.

Anyway, something somewhat Niki de Saint Phalle about it.
(not necessarily this image but I couldn't find the sculptures that were closer)

peterfalconer said:

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"most of the time it's just a collection of licks and nothing to do with emotion. "

What soul artist have you been listening to? WTF have you never heard of Al Green, Aretha Franklin or Otis Redding ? Urban means black in the U.S. it has become the coded word for black.

laurarichardson said:

Otis: Fantastic
Aretha: Sublime
Al Green: Had his moments, but never really did it for me.

Urban means "of the city", and to me it always will. The idea that only black artists can create music that has an 'urban' sound is fucking ridiculous.



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That looks amazing. Jimi's on his arm.

3121 said: