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Reply #90 posted 03/21/07 3:37pm

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Oh yes, how can we forget Jesse?! nod

And these guys too:

Peter Buck
Larry LaLonde
Roy Hay
Andy Taylor
Tom McDremott
Arthur Lee
Matthew Ashman
Howard Scott
Kirk Douglas
Steve Stevens
Rob Dean
James Honeyman-Scott
Catfish Collins
Kendall Jones
Martin Luther
Robby Krieger
Dave Matthews
James Iha
Bernard Sumner
Gary Kemp
Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner
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Reply #91 posted 03/21/07 3:40pm

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Tony Maiden-I don't know if he's considered great,but I like him.
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Reply #92 posted 03/21/07 4:10pm

JesseDezz

Here's another for 'ya: Jerry Reed: http://www.youtube.com/wa...rDjcckZRVI
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Reply #93 posted 03/21/07 4:29pm

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gypsyfire said:

Tony Maiden-I don't know if he's considered great, but I like him.


Prince mentioned in a Guitar Player interview that Tony's one of his big influences, especially on rhythm....
He said that Tony Maiden, Jimmy Nolen, and Freddie Stone were big factors in his rhythm playing, as well as Jimi and Carlos Santana in his lead work....

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Reply #94 posted 03/21/07 4:32pm

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paligap said:

gypsyfire said:

Tony Maiden-I don't know if he's considered great, but I like him.


Prince mentioned in a Guitar Player interview that Tony's one of his big influences, especially on rhythm....
He said that Tony Maiden, Jimmy Nolen, and Freddie Stone were big factors in his rhythm playing, as well as Jimi and Carlos Santana in his lead work....

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Reply #95 posted 03/21/07 6:07pm

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Ok, here are some more names to add to the list:
1. Ernie Isley- A VERY underrated guitarist.
2. Eddie Hazel - First Funkadelic guitarist( and best).
3. Michael Hampton and Blackbird McKnight - P-Funk
4 Robin Trower (Mr. Bridge of Sighs)
5. Buckethead/Slash/Joe Perry/Leslie West
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Reply #96 posted 03/21/07 7:22pm

rebelsoldier

Keziah Jones
David Ryan Harris (can't believe that John Mayer is being hyped as a new guitar god when his rhythm guitarist is better than him)
Ali Farka Toure
Johnny"Guitar" watson
Martin Luther (this brotha needs to be heard)
Amadou Bagayoko (Amadou et Mariam)
Jesse Johnson of course

And is Murray Lightburn that good? I've been listening to Gang of losers a lot
and I thought it was the other guy that played most of the guitars. Never seen them live though.
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Reply #97 posted 03/22/07 12:48am

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blackguitaristz said:

And the king of them all that went tragically underrated;

Robert Johnson


You know, I'd actually say that Robert Johnson is a tad overrated, if only because he's the only pre-war blues artist anyone's ever heard of. There were a lot of bluesmen contemporary with or earlier than Robert who I think were just as, or more, interesting singers, songwriters or guitarists (my personal favorite being Blind Willie McTell, who I think eclipses Robert on all of those accounts): Charley Patton, Blind Blake, Blind Lemon Jefferson, blind willie johnson, Lonnie Johnson, Skip James, Mississippi John Hurt, Memphis Minnie, Leadbelly etc. etc.
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Reply #98 posted 03/22/07 12:53am

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peterfalconer said:

Holdsworth and McLaughlin are both absolutely wonderful guitarists, yes, but I still maintain the most interesting and groundbreaking guitarist out there (even now he's in his 60s) is Jeff Beck.

Nobody's mentioned Allan Holdsworth yet - he's not one of my favourites, but he's a very nice player.

Zal Cleminson from SAHB was a good blues/rock player, too - it's a genre particulary difficult to keep interesting, and the way he throttled the shit out of his SG was electrifying!


Holdsworth is pretty incredible, although sometimes his playing is more interesting to me than his actual compositions (and there's something I just don't like about the production on most of his solo albums). I wouldn't say he's underrated though: it seems like most shredders/virtuoso/mega-technician players namedrop him as an influence. McLaughlin is my overall favorite, even if he isn't quite on the same technical level as Holdsworth (and who the hell is!), because A. McLaughlin seems more stylistically versatile ( when was the last time Holdsworth played acoustic at all...seriously has he ever?) and B.His actual music and the musicians he's been associated with are more interesting.
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Reply #99 posted 03/22/07 6:37am

NWF

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doh! And how could I forget Django Reinhardt?
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Reply #100 posted 03/22/07 8:13am

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jacktheimprovident said:


Holdsworth is pretty incredible, although sometimes his playing is more interesting to me than his actual compositions (and there's something I just don't like about the production on most of his solo albums). I wouldn't say he's underrated though: it seems like most shredders/virtuoso/mega-technician players namedrop him as an influence. McLaughlin is my overall favorite, even if he isn't quite on the same technical level as Holdsworth (and who the hell is!), because A. McLaughlin seems more stylistically versatile ( when was the last time Holdsworth played acoustic at all...seriously has he ever?) and B.His actual music and the musicians he's been associated with are more interesting.



...The Things You See
(almost all acoustic as well as some violin and vocals)

There's acoustic work on specific tracks from other albums that I can't recall at the moment.

It's funny, as opposed to you, at this point it's his compositions (based on his oblique chord work) that I find most impressive.
His stellar solos are expected now.

As for his being versatile he's played with Tony Williams, Jean-Luc Ponty, Donovan, Esther Phillips and don't forget he did a short stint with Level 42 and fit in quite well.

My take is that he's just into doing his own thing.


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Reply #101 posted 03/22/07 8:21am

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Marc Ford (former Black Crowes)

Fantastic guitarist
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Reply #102 posted 03/22/07 11:24am

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theAudience said:

lonelygurl8305 said:

...and I've never heard of this Jeff Beck either...

School's in session: http://www.prince.org/msg/8/203625 wink


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Okay---I had to think about it, but yeah, I've heard of Jeff Beck...he was in the Yardbirds w/Page back in the 60's...okay, now I know who your talking about lol I read Hammer of the Gods, and Jeff Beck was mentioned in the book, and Jimmy did some of his music...lol

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Reply #103 posted 03/22/07 6:12pm

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theAudience said:

jacktheimprovident said:


Holdsworth is pretty incredible, although sometimes his playing is more interesting to me than his actual compositions (and there's something I just don't like about the production on most of his solo albums). I wouldn't say he's underrated though: it seems like most shredders/virtuoso/mega-technician players namedrop him as an influence. McLaughlin is my overall favorite, even if he isn't quite on the same technical level as Holdsworth (and who the hell is!), because A. McLaughlin seems more stylistically versatile ( when was the last time Holdsworth played acoustic at all...seriously has he ever?) and B.His actual music and the musicians he's been associated with are more interesting.



...The Things You See
(almost all acoustic as well as some violin and vocals)

There's acoustic work on specific tracks from other albums that I can't recall at the moment.

It's funny, as opposed to you, at this point it's his compositions (based on his oblique chord work) that I find most impressive.
His stellar solos are expected now.

As for his being versatile he's played with Tony Williams, Jean-Luc Ponty, Donovan, Esther Phillips and don't forget he did a short stint with Level 42 and fit in quite well.

My take is that he's just into doing his own thing.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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as usual TA pWns me for the noob that I am lol
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Reply #104 posted 03/22/07 6:30pm

bellanoche

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bellanoche said:

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Ernie Isley
Anyone who's heard Ernie Isley play, Certainly wouldn't say he's underrated. I don't think he's as well known as others.


Yeah, that's my point. He's an amazing guitarist who is underrated, which means that he's not well known/praised. He never gets the props/accolades that he deserves.
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Reply #105 posted 03/22/07 6:32pm

bellanoche

smittyrock19 said:

Ok, here are some more names to add to the list:
1. Ernie Isley- A VERY underrated guitarist.
2. Eddie Hazel - First Funkadelic guitarist( and best).
3. Michael Hampton and Blackbird McKnight - P-Funk
4 Robin Trower (Mr. Bridge of Sighs)
5. Buckethead/Slash/Joe Perry/Leslie West


Yeah, I mentioned Ernie on the first page, but could not believe that I forgot the late, great brother Hazel. I play bass, but "Maggot Brain" made me want to start playing guitar. thumbs up!
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Reply #106 posted 03/22/07 6:44pm

bellanoche

I didn't see Eric Gales on here. I thought that boy was baaaaad!!
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Reply #107 posted 03/22/07 10:39pm

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jacktheimprovident said:


as usual TA pWns me for the noob that I am lol

Aw no Jack. That wasn't my intent at all. smile

It is rare to hear him on acoustic guitar.
Especially on a full album like The Things You See.

I really can't say enough about the guy's playing.
Just look at all the Allan Clonesworths he's spawned.

The most amazing thing is his personality.
As "great" (a case where it truly fits) as he is, the cat is just super humble.

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Reply #108 posted 03/23/07 1:16am

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bellanoche said:

I didn't see Eric Gales on here. I thought that boy was baaaaad!!


Look harder wink I put Eric Gales up there, along with a few links.
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Reply #109 posted 03/23/07 2:22am

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Got to add Marty Friedman. Most original player I have ever heard. Incorporating those Eastern scales and that totally original vibrato... very expressive...
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Reply #110 posted 03/23/07 12:35pm

lonelygurl8305

blackguitaristz said:

And the king of them all that went tragically underrated;

Robert Johnson



Very true...I wonder how his relatives are doing
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Reply #111 posted 03/23/07 12:36pm

lonelygurl8305

NDRU said:

peterfalconer said:



Vastly overrated - stole most of his licks off Jeff Beck, and he wasn't capable of playing or using them well.


we all know about how Jimmy Page stole a lot of stuff, but I'd argue with not "using them well," especially in terms of songwriting.

Seems like he incorporated other people's stuff into his own style and made many many classic rock tunes & riffs out of it.

Maybe you mean his solos rather than his riffs? He definitely isn't the all around player Jeff Beck is.



Its intresting that you say that...I just found out recently that Dazed and Confused by L.Z (ala Jimmy Page) was actually orginally written by a artist named Jake Holmes, and that he never got the credit for the song.
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Reply #112 posted 03/23/07 3:23pm

bellanoche

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bellanoche said:

I didn't see Eric Gales on here. I thought that boy was baaaaad!!


Look harder wink I put Eric Gales up there, along with a few links.


Thanks, there were so many posts that I must have missed it. He really is underrated, because I don't see any other mention of him. Sad.
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Reply #113 posted 03/23/07 3:49pm

bellanoche

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WOW!!! Thanks for posting this. You know, whenever I think of Roger I always think of that talkbox or keyboards. But, that boy could play some guitar too. Once again, another underrated black guitarist.

One thing to note is that back in the day when "bands" and real musicians actually populated the music biz, there were a lot of great players who were overlooked, like your namesakes Jesse and Dez.
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Reply #114 posted 03/24/07 2:12am

JesseDezz

And what trips me out is that a fantastic musician like Eric Gales gets a $5000 advance for one of the records he's done with Mike Varney while less talented cats (most of today's "artists")are making good loot.

Sometimes, I feel it's not a musician's world anymore...
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Reply #115 posted 03/24/07 10:42pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

NDRU said:



we all know about how Jimmy Page stole a lot of stuff, but I'd argue with not "using them well," especially in terms of songwriting.

Seems like he incorporated other people's stuff into his own style and made many many classic rock tunes & riffs out of it.

Maybe you mean his solos rather than his riffs? He definitely isn't the all around player Jeff Beck is.



Its intresting that you say that...I just found out recently that Dazed and Confused by L.Z (ala Jimmy Page) was actually orginally written by a artist named Jake Holmes, and that he never got the credit for the song.
[Edited 3/23/07 12:37pm]


Zeppelin seems to get accused of stealing more than anyone (and they admit some of it) But their end product is so great (and unique) they rise above any of that negativity.
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Reply #116 posted 03/25/07 6:53pm

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I forgot all about Jennifer Turner. Her "turns" on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily" continue to blow my mind. Awesome guitarist.
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Reply #117 posted 03/25/07 9:01pm

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One of my personal favorite underrated guitarists is Kaki King. This girl has a very unique style, the closest analogy to me would be Jonas Hellborg when he plays acoustic bass guitar, lots of slapping and polyrhythms as well as more intricate flamenco/classical style picking and rolling.
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Reply #118 posted 03/25/07 9:27pm

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His brother Louis is the more celebrated one, but what about George Johnson (left) of The Brothers Johnson? Among other things, he played the atmospheric solo on "Strawberry Letter #23."
THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS!
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Reply #119 posted 03/25/07 9:38pm

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theAudience said:

jacktheimprovident said:


as usual TA pWns me for the noob that I am lol

Aw no Jack. That wasn't my intent at all. smile

It is rare to hear him on acoustic guitar.
Especially on a full album like The Things You See.

I really can't say enough about the guy's playing.
Just look at all the Allan Clonesworths he's spawned.

The most amazing thing is his personality.
As "great" (a case where it truly fits) as he is, the cat is just super humble.

tA

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yeah Allan definitely seems like a very down to earth guy. Humility is also a quality he shares with one of my favorite of his latter day disciples Shawn Lane, who has probably already been mentioned but to me definitely qualifies as an underrated one. I'll repost the clip of those two chatting I found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/wa...LGoYBSE6Gk
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