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PrintableDarlingDiana said: "Still, the way Elvis destroyed himself interests me, because I don't ever want to walk those grounds myself."
Do you realize this sentence in and of itself is worthy of its own thread? But I digress. If I were MJ I'd have done the Victory tour as well. He allowed his family to cash in on his success, even if it pained him to do it. That's looking out for your family. And to this day, people speak fondly of that tour, and it ended up enlarging his popularity, IMHO. Kudos to him for that. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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i cant wait for this to fall apart.
i can see it now....."Singer Michael Jackson has not shown up for a 3rd straight night at the Jackson Five show in Las Vegas....." | |
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a jackson tour was already denied this is not true
he been presented with some deals but he hassent done anything with it he wil never tour with his brothers hell sure | |
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SoulAlive said: JackieBlue said: Imagine Madonna opening up for MJ! 2 icons for the price of one. It would have made sense.She was a new artist at the time,and she and Michael had the same manager.The two of them on a big tour in 1984 would have been amazing. Freddy had all right quit working with Michael when he became Madonna's manger. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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SoulAlive said: speeddemon said: The Victory Tour was already the biggest tour of all time up to that time. True,but there were still many problems.They were supporting a weak album ('Victory') and most people think of that tour as "charity" on Michael's part.He was just doing it to help out his brothers,who were nearly broke. Imagine if,in late 1983/84,Michael had done his own tour in support of 'Thriller'.That would have been much more successful and more exciting. The way he ended the tour on stage in the middle of Shake Your Body without telling his brothers is priceless "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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MJ to make Vegas as his own  Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: True,but there were still many problems.They were supporting a weak album ('Victory') and most people think of that tour as "charity" on Michael's part.He was just doing it to help out his brothers,who were nearly broke. Imagine if,in late 1983/84,Michael had done his own tour in support of 'Thriller'.That would have been much more successful and more exciting. The way he ended the tour on stage in the middle of Shake Your Body without telling his brothers is priceless Damn! That's some real cold hearted shit. Told y'all Mike ain't as sweet and innocent as he pretends. Is there video of this floating around somewhere? I'd LOVE to see it!  | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: bboy87 said: The way he ended the tour on stage in the middle of Shake Your Body without telling his brothers is priceless Damn! That's some real cold hearted shit. Told y'all Mike ain't as sweet and innocent as he pretends. Is there video of this floating around somewhere? I'd LOVE to see it! part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] | |
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SoulAlive said: DarlingDiana said: I think it's because Jermaine wasn't on the Destiny and Triumph albums and tours. And he wasn't part of the Jackson's variety show. In 1976, 77 and 78, the Jacksons (without Jermaine) performed together so much. They probably feel like they did more than enough performing together in those few years to last a life-time. But Jermaine was left out of all that, and I supposed he hasn't felt like a Jackson (the band, no the family) in a number of years (since 1976) despite the Victory album and tour which was a huge bomb anyway.  speaking of the 'Victory' tour...I think MJ made a huge mistake by doing it.In 1983/84,he should have went on his own "Thriller World Tour".It would have been the biggest tour ever!! He missed a golden opportunity.Michael always was better with his brothers anyway; He always sang 100 % live (in concerts), he improvised more, interacted with the audience more, seemed more comfortable with his brothers around him, and the setlist was more funk/RnB. | |
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I doubt this. | |
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DarlingDiana said: novabrkr said: Jackson never really listened to Elvis as far as I can remember.
Quote from his auto-biography (Moonwalk): "As important as he was to music, black as well as white, he just wasn't an influence on me. I guess he was too early for me. Maybe it was timing more than anything else. By the time our song had come out, people thought that if I kept living in seclusion the way I was, I might die the way he did. The parallels aren't there as far as I'm concerned and I was never much for scare tactics. Still, the way Elvis destroyed himself interests me, because I don't ever want to walk those grounds myself."
So no, he wasn't much of an Elvis fan. god its sooo depressing to read that now all things considered Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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manthevan said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Damn! That's some real cold hearted shit. Told y'all Mike ain't as sweet and innocent as he pretends. Is there video of this floating around somewhere? I'd LOVE to see it! part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] You're cools!! I'll be back to laugh in a few!  | |
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manthevan said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Damn! That's some real cold hearted shit. Told y'all Mike ain't as sweet and innocent as he pretends. Is there video of this floating around somewhere? I'd LOVE to see it! part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] o man youtube really is THEE shit! awww that was soo adorable at the end w/ all the random kids and janet and letoya and emanuel lewis!!! but yea, i'm think the bros def. knew about it, cuz its kinda hard to not respond at all the something like that. but if they didnt, mikes a beast!! [Edited 3/7/07 15:27pm] Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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manthevan said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Damn! That's some real cold hearted shit. Told y'all Mike ain't as sweet and innocent as he pretends. Is there video of this floating around somewhere? I'd LOVE to see it! part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] OMG! Where do I begin? Why here of course...  
Hell to the naw they didn't know what was coming! When Mike exited the stage the first time...whoever that is on the guitar looked back like..."Umm, where you going?" It looked to me like Mike got pissed because there were not enough cheers and screams during his moonwalking, crotch-grabbing solo so he just walked off! Still priceless though!
What the hell was up with Mike and ripping the shirt off of his brother? Soooo not sexy!! That's just rather disturbing now after all that has transpired over the last few years! 
Now for the good news... I don't see this Jacksons "Reunion In Vegas" happening at all...because... Hell, they looked old and tired doing that shit 20 something odd years ago...who the hell wants to see some gray old Jacksons "Shaking their bodies...their old ass bodies?"  [Edited 3/7/07 15:53pm] | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: manthevan said: part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] OMG! Where do I begin? Why here of course...
Hell to the naw they didn't know what was coming! When Mike exited the stage the first time...whoever that is on the guitar looked back like..."Umm, where you going?" It looked to me like Mike got pissed because there were not enough cheers and screams during his moonwalking, crotch-grabbing solo so he just walked off! Still priceless though!
What the hell was up with Mike and ripping the shirt off of his brother? Soooo not sexy!! That's just rather disturbing now after all that has transpired over the last few years!
Now for the good news... I don't see this Jacksons "Reunion In Vegas" happening at all...because... Hell, they looked old and tired doing that shit 20 something odd years ago...who the hell wants to see some gray old Jacksons "Shaking their bodies...their old ass bodies?"
[Edited 3/7/07 15:53pm] He was pissed the ENITRE tour The whole ticket fiasco that he got all the flack for when it wasn't his fault, wanting Janet to be the opening act but the others were against it. They also wanted to do a european tour and Michael wasn't having that shit. The thing was a huge clusterfuck"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: manthevan said: part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] OMG! Where do I begin? Why here of course...
Hell to the naw they didn't know what was coming! When Mike exited the stage the first time...whoever that is on the guitar looked back like..."Umm, where you going?" It looked to me like Mike got pissed because there were not enough cheers and screams during his moonwalking, crotch-grabbing solo so he just walked off! Still priceless though!
What the hell was up with Mike and ripping the shirt off of his brother? Soooo not sexy!! That's just rather disturbing now after all that has transpired over the last few years!
Now for the good news... I don't see this Jacksons "Reunion In Vegas" happening at all...because... Hell, they looked old and tired doing that shit 20 something odd years ago...who the hell wants to see some gray old Jacksons "Shaking their bodies...their old ass bodies?"
[Edited 3/7/07 15:53pm] No, you didn‛t!
Damn, I hate Michael‛s glove. It‛s so huge it always reminds me of Mickey Mouse.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: manthevan said: part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= here it is... It is said this was a surprise for the family. Maybe it was but they don't show any emotions so maybe they just keep their faces or perhaps they knew it beforhand. [Edited 3/7/07 14:36pm] OMG! Where do I begin? Why here of course...
Hell to the naw they didn't know what was coming! When Mike exited the stage the first time...whoever that is on the guitar looked back like..."Umm, where you going?" It looked to me like Mike got pissed because there were not enough cheers and screams during his moonwalking, crotch-grabbing solo so he just walked off! Still priceless though!
What the hell was up with Mike and ripping the shirt off of his brother? Soooo not sexy!! That's just rather disturbing now after all that has transpired over the last few years!
Now for the good news... I don't see this Jacksons "Reunion In Vegas" happening at all...because... Hell, they looked old and tired doing that shit 20 something odd years ago...who the hell wants to see some gray old Jacksons "Shaking their bodies...their old ass bodies?"
[Edited 3/7/07 15:53pm] the only one that looked tired IMO was Jackie (probably due to leg injury after he got hit by a car driven by his former wife for cheating with a young Paula Abdul according to the rumour), but he really didn't participate in the tour only made an entrance in this last show. As for the Jacksons age they still showed lots of energy during MSG a few years back. In my point of view they all seemed to have more energy than Michael sadly. Jermaine sounded as great as ever and played the bass well, Marlon and Jackie kicked ass and Randy and Tito looked inspired. On the other hand it would have been real odd if they did not give there heart considering it was there first real performance for years. http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= | |
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Okay... this is bullshit. | |
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After the "Victory Tour" they could call this next one the "Pathetic Tour". | |
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manthevan said: SexyBeautifulOne said: OMG! Where do I begin? Why here of course...
Hell to the naw they didn't know what was coming! When Mike exited the stage the first time...whoever that is on the guitar looked back like..."Umm, where you going?" It looked to me like Mike got pissed because there were not enough cheers and screams during his moonwalking, crotch-grabbing solo so he just walked off! Still priceless though!
What the hell was up with Mike and ripping the shirt off of his brother? Soooo not sexy!! That's just rather disturbing now after all that has transpired over the last few years!
Now for the good news... I don't see this Jacksons "Reunion In Vegas" happening at all...because... Hell, they looked old and tired doing that shit 20 something odd years ago...who the hell wants to see some gray old Jacksons "Shaking their bodies...their old ass bodies?"
[Edited 3/7/07 15:53pm] the only one that looked tired IMO was Jackie (probably due to leg injury after he got hit by a car driven by his former wife for cheating with a young Paula Abdul according to the rumour), but he really didn't participate in the tour only made an entrance in this last show. As for the Jacksons age they still showed lots of energy during MSG a few years back. In my point of view they all seemed to have more energy than Michael sadly. Jermaine sounded as great as ever and played the bass well, Marlon and Jackie kicked ass and Randy and Tito looked inspired. On the other hand it would have been real odd if they did not give there heart considering it was there first real performance for years. http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= Yeah, they seemed to be a bit more into that time around but I think I'm still gonna pass on the Geriatric Tour!
I'd much rather remember them like this: http://www.youtube.com/wa...VVJnvhMiQI | |
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