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Thread started 03/04/07 5:49am

TheKnowledge

Nirvana's Nevermind

The greatest album ever.

This is an album full of passion and spirit. It is so important to so many of my generation and thankfully it's become as important too many of the next Generation and I believe will end up influencing generations to come.

Kurt Cobain is surely one of the most important figures in popular music ever, and such a sad loss, We've missed out on so much without him.

After hearing Nevermind I changed, my life changed. I became who I was not what others thought I should be or wanted me to be.
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Reply #1 posted 03/04/07 5:54am

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I love Nirvana. They´re my favourite rock, punk band. Otherwise I don´t like these genres that much.
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/07 6:22am

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I like this album okay, and recognize what an important piece of history it is, but it doesn't sound like the real Nirvana to me.. just Nirvana with bells and whistles. In Utero and Unplugged are the true masterpieces to me.

It doesn't help that it's been SO overplayed and is SO musically simplistic (outside of Dave Grohl's drumming) that it doesn't really leave an impact on me. I get bored not even to the halfway point. And yeah, I KNOW Nirvana are practically a punk band and much of punk is primitive, but when you don't have the raw production that matches your primitive punk roots and instead sound like commercial radio-rock, it doesn't matter (to me, anyway).

I WILL admit Cobain was a uniquely talented songsmith and admirably open-minded individual, though, as well as a hottie. love
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/07 6:27am

lilgish

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troll, bait, alternate account..... take your pick
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Reply #4 posted 03/04/07 6:32am

AlexdeParis

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I can't say it's one of my favorites. For the most part, the big two of grunge (Nirvana and Pearl Jam) don't do much for me. Criticism be damned, I'd much rather listen to Stone Temple Pilots.
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Reply #5 posted 03/04/07 6:40am

TheKnowledge

lilgish said:

troll, bait, alternate account..... take your pick


What is your point?

Do you have an opinion or not.

I thought this forum was too discuss music.

I don't expect you to agree with mine.

What do you mean Troll?

Bait, I guess you mean I'm trying to anoy someone

Alternate account, Is this a dig because I like alternative music?
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/07 7:17am

thedribbler

squiddyren said:

I like this album okay, and recognize what an important piece of history it is, but it doesn't sound like the real Nirvana to me.. just Nirvana with bells and whistles. In Utero and Unplugged are the true masterpieces to me.

It doesn't help that it's been SO overplayed and is SO musically simplistic (outside of Dave Grohl's drumming) that it doesn't really leave an impact on me. I get bored not even to the halfway point. And yeah, I KNOW Nirvana are practically a punk band and much of punk is primitive, but when you don't have the raw production that matches your primitive punk roots and instead sound like commercial radio-rock, it doesn't matter (to me, anyway).

I WILL admit Cobain was a uniquely talented songsmith and admirably open-minded individual, though, as well as a hottie. love

Well, this fella here says it all.
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Reply #7 posted 03/04/07 7:39am

TheKnowledge

In Uetro is also a great album and would be in my personal top 5 albums of all time and wasn't a disappointment to me at all, I remeber some friends at the time seeing it that way, probably because Nevermind was their introduction to the band, as it was mine also.

I would still cite Nevermind as being the more important album.

It showed the world the way forward, after the Metal Hell that was the 1980's.

I think Nevermind said more to the audience where as In Uetro was a more personal album to Kurt.
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Reply #8 posted 03/04/07 5:19pm

CinisterCee

TheKnowledge said:

Alternate account, Is this a dig because I like alternative music?


lol
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/07 5:20pm

MikeMatronik

Give alternative music anytime... cool
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/07 5:30pm

thedribbler

MikeMatronik said:

Give alternative music anytime... cool

what?
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Reply #11 posted 03/04/07 5:36pm

MikeMatronik

thedribbler said:

MikeMatronik said:

Give alternative music anytime... cool

what?


who?
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Reply #12 posted 03/04/07 5:39pm

thedribbler

MikeMatronik said:

thedribbler said:


what?


who?

When? and how's your face? I hope your feelin'better.
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Reply #13 posted 03/04/07 5:45pm

MikeMatronik

thedribbler said:

MikeMatronik said:



who?

When? and how's your face? I hope your feelin'better.


I'm better...my avatar is a picture I took today.
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Reply #14 posted 03/04/07 5:51pm

GangstaFam

MikeMatronik said:

thedribbler said:


When? and how's your face? I hope your feelin'better.


I'm better...my avatar is a picture I took today.

You look back to your old self. What a quick recovery. Congrats!
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Reply #15 posted 03/04/07 6:03pm

Anx

i don't know if i'd call it "best album ever", but i think it's pretty good. i think it's a great pop album with really melodic songs and witty, thoughtful, singable lyrics. 'grunge', 'alternative', 'punk', whatever...i just think it was great pop songwriting with depth and edge that was sorely missing at the time.

that said, i PERSONALLY think 'in utero' is a far more INTERESTING album, if not a record that was as immediately likeable as 'nevermind'.
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Reply #16 posted 03/04/07 6:27pm

CinisterCee

It might be Nirvana's best album ever.
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Reply #17 posted 03/04/07 8:09pm

mynameisnotsus
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The very first time I heard it in late '91 I absolutely thought "This is the best album I am ever going to hear in my life". Seriously. I'll never love a record as much as I loved that when it came out. Took a long break after Cobains suicide but I played it a whole lot in the last couple of years and it still gets me.
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Reply #18 posted 03/04/07 8:20pm

thedribbler

as this fine album came out I had been on a budhist ashram for 2 years. Took me a long time 2 ge into it.

The 1st time i heard of kobain was when I got into a conversation with a young drunk in warsaw.
I was askin' him where the best bars in town were. He started mumblin' about his poor dead brother.
I thought he meant his real brother I said the appropiate things.

Later in manchester, england, I saw the baby in the water print on a t-shirt with nirvana written above it.
Thought it was cool.
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Reply #19 posted 03/04/07 8:24pm

Imago

Nevermind is Nirvana's Purple Rain.


In Utero is their SOTT.

I like Curt Cobain's stuff. I thought his songs were great, no-nonsense rock/punk, and I felt it unfortunate that Nirvana was grouped in with reformed hairbands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and the like. There' nothing wrong with the other bands--but Nirvana was , at least to me, fundamentally different as Cobain was coming from a different place of influence. shrug

I would like to thank Kurt Cobain though for helping do away with Frat-Rock, at least until Kid Rock and Limp Biscuit ruined everything a few years later. shrug
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Reply #20 posted 03/04/07 8:32pm

Flambe

Imago said:

Nevermind is Nirvana's Purple Rain.


In Utero is their SOTT.

I like Curt Cobain's stuff. I thought his songs were great, no-nonsense rock/punk, and I felt it unfortunate that Nirvana was grouped in with reformed hairbands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and the like. There' nothing wrong with the other bands--but Nirvana was , at least to me, fundamentally different as Cobain was coming from a different place of influence. shrug

I would like to thank Kurt Cobain though for helping do away with Frat-Rock, at least until Kid Rock and Limp Biscuit ruined everything a few years later. shrug


hug
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Reply #21 posted 03/04/07 8:36pm

damosuzuki

I don't go back to it very often, but I don't think there are many faults to be found with it. Most of the complaints I hear about it is that it wasn't what people think it ought to have been - wasn't crude enough, wasn't punk enough...but it was great for what it was, on its own terms.

What elevated Cobain over those other (to my mind) mostly dreary Seattle acts was his ability to write incredibly melodic songs that he could sing with his voice. Every song on Nevermind has a clear melody that sticks with you practically from the first time you hear it. And if you dig through the noise on the surface of in utero, I think most of those songs have the same quality. For all the cultural baggage that's been attached to him, he was first and foremost to me an excellent melodic pop songwriter.
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Reply #22 posted 03/04/07 10:57pm

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It's an album I never tire of. On of the great collections of pop/rock songs. Crazy, but it really is pop music. As much as Kurt might hate that thought, he'd probably be the first to admit it...if...

I was moved even more by In Utero, but I see that while it (along with UNplugged) may cut deeper for Nirvana fans, Nevermind is the larger, longer lasting, and more universal contribution to music. The songs are more fleshed out, more perfectly recorded/arranged, and Kurt was more focused.

It seems ridiculous to some to put Nirvana up with the all time greats, but I have no problem putting Nevermind alongside Sgt Pepper or Purple Rain. It's a brilliant, trendy, catchy, uncompromising album by an artist who could be similarly described.
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Reply #23 posted 03/05/07 2:41am

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I really like this album although I feel there is some obvious filler which is often over-looked as it's such an iconic album.

On A Plain, Territorial Pissings, Polly... pretty weak tracks IMO.

Then on the other hand you have Come As You Are, Lithium, Teen Spirit, In Bloom, Lounge Act... all classics!
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Reply #24 posted 03/05/07 3:50am

Flambe

MattyJam said:

I really like this album although I feel there is some obvious filler which is often over-looked as it's such an iconic album.

On A Plain, Territorial Pissings, Polly... pretty weak tracks IMO.

Then on the other hand you have Come As You Are, Lithium, Teen Spirit, In Bloom, Lounge Act... all classics!
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yeah right! the whole thing is genius, start to finish! on a plain is wonderful!
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Reply #25 posted 03/05/07 5:27am

Imago

Flambe said:

Imago said:

Nevermind is Nirvana's Purple Rain.


In Utero is their SOTT.

I like Curt Cobain's stuff. I thought his songs were great, no-nonsense rock/punk, and I felt it unfortunate that Nirvana was grouped in with reformed hairbands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and the like. There' nothing wrong with the other bands--but Nirvana was , at least to me, fundamentally different as Cobain was coming from a different place of influence. shrug

I would like to thank Kurt Cobain though for helping do away with Frat-Rock, at least until Kid Rock and Limp Biscuit ruined everything a few years later. shrug


hug

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Reply #26 posted 03/05/07 6:19am

NWF

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Here comes the player hater.....


I'm sorry but I still think this band is overrated. You draw/steal your ideas from other Alternative groups like The Pixies and Killing Joke and then you're labelled a genius for it? What does that mean?
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Reply #27 posted 03/05/07 6:27am

Anx

NWF said:

Here comes the player hater.....


I'm sorry but I still think this band is overrated. You draw/steal your ideas from other Alternative groups like The Pixies and Killing Joke and then you're labelled a genius for it? What does that mean?


don't forget Boston - they totally stole that riff in 'teen spirit' from 'more than a feeling'. nod
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Reply #28 posted 03/05/07 7:59am

CinisterCee

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Reply #29 posted 03/05/07 8:22am

SenseOfDoubt

Sometimes I revisit the album, though I dont think (and never thought) of it as that great. Its great, but not up there with PR or SOTT etc... wink My fave cuts have always been On a Plain, Drain You, Breed... did never care much for SLTS or Lithium.

My favourite Nirvana is probably Incesticide... since it has one of my fave songs ever: "Dive". Not to forget Mexican Seafood. I also liked In Utero a bit better back then.
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