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Reply #60 posted 02/22/07 3:17pm

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Robin Thicke's pretty cool. Justin Timberlake's a fool.
Robin is authentic r&b. Justin timberlake is a fake trying
to capitalize off r&b sound. That said i hope this thread turns into
a racial debate.


Sorry guys. I must correct my own quote from yesterday. I had a typo.
This last sentence in my quote should have said i hope this thread does
not turn into a racial debate. Sorry if anyone took the typo the wrong way.

Everything on prince.org turns into a race and/or sexual orientation debate.
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Reply #61 posted 02/24/07 3:01pm

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A good friend of mine called me last night and was bragging about his album. He said there is some synthesizer Princey type songs on it. The first thing I asked was if it has drum machines or real drums....and if it has drum machines, are they strong sounding drum machines or weak shit hop sounding ones because weak drum machines and bass absolutely ruin a song. He said he really didn't pay attention but he would make me a copy to see what I thought.Does this album sound like anything I would like?


The album has way too many ballads for you lol There are a few uptempo numbers,but it's not the type of fast,funky jams you're looking for.You would probably like "Cocaine"...that song is great,sounding alot like Old School funk.But if you want a perfect album for romantic nights or just chilling at home,this album is the one.The slow jams are smooth and hypnotic.
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Reply #62 posted 02/24/07 11:56pm

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I bought the CD today.

Gave it to my girlfriend who is a stone-cold Justin fan.

By night's end, she was like...Justin who?

And I had a grin on my face underneath the New York moon...
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Reply #63 posted 02/25/07 1:33am

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confused I don't understand what would make Robin Thicke more credible than Justin Timberlake. His dad was a TV star so I'm sure he didn't grow up anywhere near a large amount of black people to be anymore credible as an R&B artist than Justin. For all we know, they both probably grew up listening to and enjoying the same R&B, Soul, and Hip-hop artists. Justin has said in more than one interview, past and present, how much he loves Al Green, Donny Hathaway, and Brian McKnight. I think Al Green even lives close to his hometown. I just don't think he's anymore fake than any other white artist who says they were influenced by black R&B and Hip-Hop artists. Robin Thicke plays piano, guitar, and writes his own songs, but so does Timberlake. Sorry, I just don't understand the Justin hate and the Robin love. They aren't the same, but they damn sure aren't that different either. I think that they are both pretty enjoyable to listen to and look at. Personally, I don't think Justin is anymore fake than any other white artist who performs a genre of music that is predominantly black. Well, to each his own, I guess they say. shrug Just my twocents
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Reply #64 posted 02/25/07 2:04am

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ElCapitan said:

Graycap23 said:

Hummmmm.....
#1 R&B: white boy
#1 Rapper: white boy
#1 Rock and Roll: white boy

Interesting. The MORE brothers CREATE, the more brothers LOSE.


unless T.I. is white, I don't think hip-hop has anything to worry about. Eminem is talented, but he peaked a few years ago.


.....and there aren't anymore white rappers getting anywhere close to #1 on any kind of charts at the moment.
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Reply #65 posted 02/25/07 2:15am

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Robin Thicke -- Lost Without U
http://www.youtube.com/wa...jV07LXHQcA

Robin can sing the Prince-ly high notes as well as his own high notes. He a pretty good vocalist in my book.
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Reply #66 posted 02/25/07 2:19am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

phunkdaddy said:



Sorry guys. I must correct my own quote from yesterday. I had a typo.
This last sentence in my quote should have said i hope this thread does
not turn into a racial debate. Sorry if anyone took the typo the wrong way.

Everything on prince.org turns into a race and/or sexual orientation debate.


Just so you know, I do my best to never play the race card outside of P&R. Honest! wink
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Reply #67 posted 02/25/07 2:24am

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estelle81 said:

confused I don't understand what would make Robin Thicke more credible than Justin Timberlake. His dad was a TV star so I'm sure he didn't grow up anywhere near a large amount of black people to be anymore credible as an R&B artist than Justin. For all we know, they both probably grew up listening to and enjoying the same R&B, Soul, and Hip-hop artists. Justin has said in more than one interview, past and present, how much he loves Al Green, Donny Hathaway, and Brian McKnight. I think Al Green even lives close to his hometown. I just don't think he's anymore fake than any other white artist who says they were influenced by black R&B and Hip-Hop artists. Robin Thicke plays piano, guitar, and writes his own songs, but so does Timberlake. Sorry, I just don't understand the Justin hate and the Robin love. They aren't the same, but they damn sure aren't that different either. I think that they are both pretty enjoyable to listen to and look at. Personally, I don't think Justin is anymore fake than any other white artist who performs a genre of music that is predominantly black. Well, to each his own, I guess they say. shrug Just my twocents


WRONG!!! Justin Timberlake has NEVER even bother to pick up a guitar since he gave up on country music as a kid right after joining the last generation of the Mickey Mouse Club or move on from there to be a co-lead vocalist for *NSYNC. Beside beatboxing, Justin never play an instrument live on stage or even in the studio (AFAIK) with other producers.
[Edited 2/25/07 2:51am]
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Reply #68 posted 02/25/07 2:40am

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vainandy said:



A good friend of mine called me last night and was bragging about his album. He said there is some synthesizer Princey type songs on it. The first thing I asked was if it has drum machines or real drums....and if it has drum machines, are they strong sounding drum machines or weak shit hop sounding ones because weak drum machines and bass absolutely ruin a song. He said he really didn't pay attention but he would make me a copy to see what I thought.

Does this album sound like anything I would like?
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Robin Thicke - Wanna Love U (Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Xw9na5FOv4

This song have a hard drum machine sound (like The Neptunes broke into Prince's house and stole the Linn-LM1!!! lol). But THIS is a remix version with Busta Rhyme.
[Edited 2/25/07 2:42am]
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Reply #69 posted 02/25/07 7:21am

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I just brought the CD last night and it's really popular cause I picked up the last one. I haven't heard it all but it's really good. Wanna Love U Girl and Lost Without U alone are worth picking up. I'm a fan now biggrin
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #70 posted 02/25/07 7:55am

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estelle81 said:

confused I don't understand what would make Robin Thicke more credible than Justin Timberlake. His dad was a TV star so I'm sure he didn't grow up anywhere near a large amount of black people to be anymore credible as an R&B artist than Justin. For all we know, they both probably grew up listening to and enjoying the same R&B, Soul, and Hip-hop artists. Justin has said in more than one interview, past and present, how much he loves Al Green, Donny Hathaway, and Brian McKnight. I think Al Green even lives close to his hometown. I just don't think he's anymore fake than any other white artist who says they were influenced by black R&B and Hip-Hop artists. Robin Thicke plays piano, guitar, and writes his own songs, but so does Timberlake. Sorry, I just don't understand the Justin hate and the Robin love. They aren't the same, but they damn sure aren't that different either. I think that they are both pretty enjoyable to listen to and look at. Personally, I don't think Justin is anymore fake than any other white artist who performs a genre of music that is predominantly black. Well, to each his own, I guess they say. shrug Just my twocents

clapping I basically agree. I prefer Robin's 2 albums to Justin's, but I've never had a problem with Timberlake.
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Reply #71 posted 02/25/07 8:47am

Graycap23

TonyVanDam said:

ElCapitan said:



unless T.I. is white, I don't think hip-hop has anything to worry about. Eminem is talented, but he peaked a few years ago.


.....and there aren't anymore white rappers getting anywhere close to #1 on any kind of charts at the moment.



ah...ok.....I guess that makes it better. Thanks,
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Reply #72 posted 02/25/07 10:01am

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Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:



.....and there aren't anymore white rappers getting anywhere close to #1 on any kind of charts at the moment.



ah...ok.....I guess that makes it better. Thanks,


No. But it means that Eminem did a wonderful job (in his prime) in making sure that he was the only white rapper that matter. Sad but true.

Also, if 50 Cent is all about business, then why there isn't a white member of G-Unit yet? So Graycap, don't even play a game of race cards with me without having all 54 cards in the deck (or 52 without the jokers).
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Reply #73 posted 02/25/07 10:09am

Graycap23

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:




ah...ok.....I guess that makes it better. Thanks,


No. But it means that Eminem did a wonderful job (in his prime) in making sure that he was the only white rapper that matter. Sad but true.

Also, if 50 Cent is all about business, then why there isn't a white member of G-Unit yet? So Graycap, don't even play a game of race cards with me without having all 54 cards in the deck (or 52 without the jokers).
wink



I have no desire 2 play any game with u or anyone else. I'm simply stating MY opinion. That simple.
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Reply #74 posted 02/25/07 10:29am

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drama aside,,

not only did the guy finally break into the charts, but he did with a record smile Good 4 him!

even though it feels funny for me seeing Lost W/O You JUST makin' a buzz when i've been fed up with it like 7 months ago already!
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Reply #75 posted 02/25/07 11:23am

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estelle81 said:

confused I don't understand what would make Robin Thicke more credible than Justin Timberlake. His dad was a TV star so I'm sure he didn't grow up anywhere near a large amount of black people to be anymore credible as an R&B artist than Justin. For all we know, they both probably grew up listening to and enjoying the same R&B, Soul, and Hip-hop artists. Justin has said in more than one interview, past and present, how much he loves Al Green, Donny Hathaway, and Brian McKnight. I think Al Green even lives close to his hometown. I just don't think he's anymore fake than any other white artist who says they were influenced by black R&B and Hip-Hop artists. Robin Thicke plays piano, guitar, and writes his own songs, but so does Timberlake. Sorry, I just don't understand the Justin hate and the Robin love. They aren't the same, but they damn sure aren't that different either. I think that they are both pretty enjoyable to listen to and look at. Personally, I don't think Justin is anymore fake than any other white artist who performs a genre of music that is predominantly black. Well, to each his own, I guess they say. shrug Just my twocents


This is pretty much my thoughts.
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Reply #76 posted 02/25/07 1:10pm

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I cant get into the Robin Thicke guy.....my question is this....Justin,Robin, Jon B and even Lewis Taylor to a degree IRKS me with this..why is it that when the white guys try to sound soulful they start cooing and purring/whispering/singing in a high/whiny voice? What is that all about?
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Reply #77 posted 02/25/07 2:51pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

How is he making history when he's doing something that's already been done before?

Yeah, the title should say "Robin Thicke Proves History Repeats Itself"... not a slam against Robin, it's just more accurate.

George Michael did it first, and with good reason. Fantastic voice, fantastic songs. I've not heard Robin, so - I can't really critique him...

And as far as what color music is... to quote Stevie, "Music is a world within itself, with a language we all understand. With an equal opportunity for all to sing, dance and clap their hands!"

Just embrace the love of the music and try not to politicize everything! grouphug
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Reply #78 posted 02/25/07 4:41pm

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Sorry I just do not see the appeal of this guys voice over anyone else (black or white) from the current R&B genre that is of this age group (the 20-somethings to 30- somethings) that are out now.

I just do not see the hype about this guy. I heard him sing live and was not impressed at all.
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Reply #79 posted 02/25/07 4:44pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

Sorry I just do not see the appeal of this guys voice over anyone else (black or white) from the current R&B genre that is of this age group (the 20-somethings to 30- somethings) that are out now.

I just do not see the hype about this guy. I heard him sing live and was not impressed at all.

I'm not as impressed with his voice as I am with his songs. Counting the two albums and all the outtakes, he has a wealth of great songs already.
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Reply #80 posted 02/25/07 9:40pm

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LoveAlive said:

I cant get into the Robin Thicke guy.....my question is this....Justin,Robin, Jon B and even Lewis Taylor to a degree IRKS me with this..why is it that when the white guys try to sound soulful they start cooing and purring/whispering/singing in a high/whiny voice? What is that all about?


They're horny?!? lol [b]
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Reply #81 posted 02/25/07 11:45pm

SoulAlive

estelle81 said:

confused I don't understand what would make Robin Thicke more credible than Justin Timberlake. His dad was a TV star so I'm sure he didn't grow up anywhere near a large amount of black people to be anymore credible as an R&B artist than Justin. For all we know, they both probably grew up listening to and enjoying the same R&B, Soul, and Hip-hop artists. Justin has said in more than one interview, past and present, how much he loves Al Green, Donny Hathaway, and Brian McKnight. I think Al Green even lives close to his hometown. I just don't think he's anymore fake than any other white artist who says they were influenced by black R&B and Hip-Hop artists. Robin Thicke plays piano, guitar, and writes his own songs, but so does Timberlake. Sorry, I just don't understand the Justin hate and the Robin love. They aren't the same, but they damn sure aren't that different either. I think that they are both pretty enjoyable to listen to and look at. Personally, I don't think Justin is anymore fake than any other white artist who performs a genre of music that is predominantly black. Well, to each his own, I guess they say. shrug Just my twocents


Robin's music is simply better.His songs are much more mature,introspective and most of all,more soulful.From listening to his CD,you can tell that he has a genuine understanding and appreciation for real soul music.Justin's music is trendier and alot more commercial,but that doesn't mean it's better.I don't find much substance in his lyrics or his singing.
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Reply #82 posted 02/26/07 12:53am

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TonyVanDam said:

WRONG!!! Justin Timberlake has NEVER even bother to pick up a guitar since he gave up on country music as a kid right after joining the last generation of the Mickey Mouse Club or move on from there to be a co-lead vocalist for *NSYNC. Beside beatboxing, Justin never play an instrument live on stage or even in the studio (AFAIK) with other producers.
[Edited 2/25/07 2:51am]


confused Now, I know my eyes don't lie to me, especially since I've had them for some 26 years now. Justin has picked up a guitar, at least that's what that thing he was strumming on at the Grammy's this year looked like to me. Plus, he's played piano on at least one of his SNL performance. He may not be the best at playing these instruments, but he does play them. I've never been to either one of their concerts, but I seriously doubt that one is HUGELY better than the other. Now, if we were comparing Eminem to Vanilla Ice or Christina to Britney, than we would have a huge difference, but not with Justin and Robin IMHO. Like I said, I think that they are both equally enjoyable and there is definitely room for both of them on the charts. smile
Prince Rogers Nelson
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Sunset: April 21, 2016
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Reply #83 posted 02/26/07 12:56am

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Graycap23 said:

Hummmmm.....
#1 R&B: white boy
#1 Rapper: white boy
#1 Rock and Roll: white boy

Interesting. The MORE brothers CREATE, the more brothers LOSE.

well what about making and acting in movies, playing basketball, playing guitar etc. White people created all those things which black people do and get accolades for
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Reply #84 posted 02/26/07 12:23pm

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SoulAlive said:


Robin's music is simply better.His songs are much more mature,introspective and most of all,more soulful.From listening to his CD,you can tell that he has a genuine understanding and appreciation for real soul music.Justin's music is trendier and alot more commercial,but that doesn't mean it's better.I don't find much substance in his lyrics or his singing.

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Reply #85 posted 02/26/07 5:06pm

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estelle81 said:

TonyVanDam said:

WRONG!!! Justin Timberlake has NEVER even bother to pick up a guitar since he gave up on country music as a kid right after joining the last generation of the Mickey Mouse Club or move on from there to be a co-lead vocalist for *NSYNC. Beside beatboxing, Justin never play an instrument live on stage or even in the studio (AFAIK) with other producers.
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confused Now, I know my eyes don't lie to me, especially since I've had them for some 26 years now. Justin has picked up a guitar, at least that's what that thing he was strumming on at the Grammy's this year looked like to me. Plus, he's played piano on at least one of his SNL performance. He may not be the best at playing these instruments, but he does play them. I've never been to either one of their concerts, but I seriously doubt that one is HUGELY better than the other. Now, if we were comparing Eminem to Vanilla Ice or Christina to Britney, than we would have a huge difference, but not with Justin and Robin IMHO. Like I said, I think that they are both equally enjoyable and there is definitely room for both of them on the charts. smile



Concerning that I don't even watch award shows (since the 90's), pardon me for the lack of information. boxed

Still in all, comparing Justin to Prince or even Robin is still a waste.
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Reply #86 posted 02/26/07 7:34pm

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I became a Robin Thicke fan from this 1 song

When I get you alone
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ng0ReHeTiM

I always thought he was slept on back in 02'. His 1st album was cool

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Just Call Me Afrochick
I love you mom
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Reply #87 posted 02/26/07 7:47pm

Janfriend

TonyVanDam said:

estelle81 said:



confused Now, I know my eyes don't lie to me, especially since I've had them for some 26 years now. Justin has picked up a guitar, at least that's what that thing he was strumming on at the Grammy's this year looked like to me. Plus, he's played piano on at least one of his SNL performance. He may not be the best at playing these instruments, but he does play them. I've never been to either one of their concerts, but I seriously doubt that one is HUGELY better than the other. Now, if we were comparing Eminem to Vanilla Ice or Christina to Britney, than we would have a huge difference, but not with Justin and Robin IMHO. Like I said, I think that they are both equally enjoyable and there is definitely room for both of them on the charts. smile



Concerning that I don't even watch award shows (since the 90's), pardon me for the lack of information. boxed

Still in all, comparing Justin to Prince or even Robin is still a waste.
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Don't apologize. Justin looks goofy as hell and uncomfortable playing both the keyboards and the guitar
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Reply #88 posted 02/26/07 8:01pm

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doeineffect said:

Graycap23 said:

Hummmmm.....
#1 R&B: white boy
#1 Rapper: white boy
#1 Rock and Roll: white boy

Interesting. The MORE brothers CREATE, the more brothers LOSE.


Amen, brother. The brothers keep on makin' it, whitey keeps on takin' it!


There really AREN'T many successful white soul singers. George Michael and Hall & Oates are about the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Eminem was great but he's not #1.

Rock was basically Blues but with a white guy behind it SAYING it was rock in the 50's. AFter the 50's, it changed into something else that few black folks really had much to do with at all.

Besides, white folks don't complain when black folks come in and dominate the sports they invented do they? Just my 2 cents.
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Reply #89 posted 02/26/07 8:09pm

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Janfriend said:

TonyVanDam said:




Concerning that I don't even watch award shows (since the 90's), pardon me for the lack of information. boxed

Still in all, comparing Justin to Prince or even Robin is still a waste.
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Don't apologize. Justin looks goofy as hell and uncomfortable playing both the keyboards and the guitar


That's easy to believe. Boy band members aren't request to practice their instruments. They're too busy copying dance moves & gimmicks from New Edition/Bell Biv Devoe! lol
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