sosgemini said:

I am out of this discussion. YOu all know what I think anyway...

Najee said:

Amen. There is no way in hell those are his biological kids. Notice how it's only his diehard fanbase that actually thinks so.
That's not to say they aren't legally his children or whatnot, but come on... Reading these posts saying Prince has MJ's eyes and Paris has his hair type just make me

jayaredee said:

Thank you. I have a bridge to sell to anyone who thinks Michael's the biological father of those kids. Please.

I love the Michael Jackson Mafia - these cats will believe anything. But they are dedicated - loony, but dedicated.

jayaredee said:

Yeah, you get the impression some of these Michael Jackson die-hard fans believe the man never had any plastic surgery and he always looked like what he does today. MJ was not born with a pointed nose, cleft chin, straightened hair and possibly other cosmetically altered features.
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they're cute kids, but considering that ALL 3 OF THEM have no african american features at all, I don't blame people for doubting that he's the biological father. I know that people can be mixed and not look a certain race but 3 times? And I agree with what was said about how vitiligo isn't something that affects your gene pool

I personally don't care whether they're his or not, as long as he is the parent/guardian/caregiver they ARE his no matter where they really came from.
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It is REALLY none of our business how they were conceived. Really.

CinisterCee said:

Except that is not the point people are making.

I like how a thread called "seen so-and-so's kids lately" becomes a debate about their parentage.

It's like, how superficial can you be? I would NOT send that kind of energy towards children.

CinisterCee said:

It's not being superficial when one of the principals has an apparent race complex that's so dominant that he thinks he can tell the world some children who evidently don't have his same ancestry are his biological children.

Color is just a package...what matters is one's soul

MikeMatronik said:

And what's in this particular person's (Michael Jackson) soul is very disturbing and sad.

sosgemini said:

It's really MJ's own fault people are discussing this though. He was the one who did that documentry with Martin Bashir going on record claiming that those children were conceived naturally. All that we're doing is challenging those statements.
If he was just honest with the rest of us, no one would continue to speculate. And don't give me this shit that it's none of our business. Again, that documentry he put out... MJ made it our business to see inside his personal life. It is our business, sorry MJ fans.

Hey guys, stop calling us lunatics.

Anyways, no matter what opinion we might have, none of us can prove it because anything is possible. I do know ppl where all kids took mainly after one person. Debbie might have had very strong genes, because I can see a lot of her in them.

Damn, didn´t I say I was out of this discussion?

I can't wait for the MJ LOONS to come and claim that documentry was manipulated to make MJ look bad. There is no way that documentry could be edited to make him look good. Sorry

dag said:

Well of course they look like Debbie. She gave birth to them after all. However, if you believe that MJ's baby gravy was involved in the conception then

jayaredee said:

Yeah, the issue isn't with Debbie Rowe being the biological mother, but the so-called "biological father." Michael Jackson's baby batter evidently did not make an appearance in conception phase.
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dag said:

Apparently Debbie Rowe's genes are so strong that they wiped out any racial resemblance to Michael Jackson. And keep in mind, that's for only TWO of the children; "Blanket" supposedly was the result of a birth from a surrogate mother (whom MJ said was also of African ancestry, but then he changed it to say the woman is white -- WTF???).
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These kinds of details are PRIVATE, and mainly due to the exact kind of scrutinizing seen in this thread. Should we expect an answer just because Martin Bashir asked?

Najee said:

Yeah, as far as I know, you can't bleach DNA. On the inside, that self-hating freak is still a black man. So we know the deal.

CinisterCee said:

And Michael chose to answer. He could have said "none of your business," but he chose to answer it. I'm sorry i don't agree.

uPtoWnNY said:

So in other words, MJ fans, here is the real father of those kids:

Najee said:

no he didn´t say she was white. He said that black kids come in all colors - from very white to very dark.
Your point 1.: Looks.
Ppl. See things differently. A lot of my friends say that I resemble my mother. Neither me, my mum, brother nor father think so. Some of us can see MJ´s resemblance, some of us can´t.
Your point 2.: MJ´s words
MJ gave many versions so it is quite obvious he does not want the public to know the truth. So the only thing we can agree on is that you cannot trust his words on this subject. It is interesting that in MJ stories, he has always said that HE was the father. The only person that varies in those versions of the stories are the mothers. Once it´s someone he has relationship with, once it is a surrogate one. I suppose he does that to really protect them.
My poing 3.: Other people´s and MJ´s behaviour.
But if I go back to the MJ-being-the-biological-father-or-not. My question is WHY would he do that? Why, even if concieved artificially, use someone else´s sperm when he was so desperate all his life to have kids? THe only reason would be that he was infertile. If he is infertile, why would Lisa Marie seem so hurt about him "gettin someone else pregnant, having a baby". If they weren´t HIS kids, why would Debbie get so emotional whenever she talks about him.


Of course, you, non-MJ-lunatics feel that you are right cause you are in majority, but that doesn´t prove anything. Majorities have been wrong so many times in the history.

Anyways, that´s really it from me, I am going to bed. GOOD NIGHT!
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Two of Jermaine's children are mixed race(His second wife was Italian/Mexican) and they are very pale skinned, however you can believe they are mixed race due to the hair, which is quite curly...The problem with Michael's children none of them have any of these traits, having dark hair and eyes don't indicate mixed race.

The fact is MJ nephews, 3T, look more like Michael than his "own children" do.

Najee said:

Yeah, that looks really friendly to orgers who are mixed or white.

CinisterCee said:

Save it doesn't apply to them.

Najee said:

Oh what a relief

dag said:

Once again, Michael Jackson's children have no biological traits of African ancestry -- that would be evident in children of mixed ancestry (in this case, black and white). Hair texture, facial features, nothing that shows no evidence of anything suggesting his traits.
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CinisterCee said:

Unless there is someone who is black and telling some white children that he is their biological father, then it doesn't apply to them.
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