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Reply #90 posted 02/01/07 10:33pm

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i think some of you are trying to force your perspective on others and its rather silly...just accept that others have differing viewpoints and agree to disagree...

i. think. beyonces. image. is. slutty.

just like i think janet's is...and just like i think madonna's has been. big woo. you disagree. get over it. my lord, its like some of you are in need of bitch fighting here on the org to let out life aggressions or something...well, its tiring...it really is...so keep getting your panties in a bunch over this thread...cause in the end, i still think beyonce sells a slutty image to sell records...

and janet's done it...and madonna's done it...and shakira's done it...and many other's before...and even some men have done it...big woo!!!

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Reply #91 posted 02/01/07 10:34pm

murph

Najee said:

sosgemini said:



the first image found via google...shall i continue?


Then I suggest you join a covenant, because just about any entertainer not named Sinead O'Connor has those kind of shots.

I can't believe a moderator on Web site dedicated to PRINCE is being squeamish about a standard shot of an entertainer in concert.


Indeed..i just can't believe a moderator is allowed to say such things...lol...It's all good though...We all got our personal hang-ups...
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Reply #92 posted 02/01/07 10:36pm

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murph said:

Najee said:



Then I suggest you join a covenant, because just about any entertainer not named Sinead O'Connor has those kind of shots.

I can't believe a moderator on Web site dedicated to PRINCE is being squeamish about a standard shot of an entertainer in concert.


Indeed..i just can't believe a moderator is allowed to say such things...lol...It's all good though...We all got our personal hang-ups...


see, and there it is folks...two people just can't believe someone would have an differing view then theirs...especially a moderator of this website...


wtf man? are we twelve? lol

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Reply #93 posted 02/01/07 10:36pm

Najee

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Again, the original article states this:

The 25-year-old singer-actress tops the website's list ranking the "most alluring" female celebrities as determined by its readers and staff. Voters were asked to consider qualities beyond sex appeal and beauty, such as "intelligence, humour, charisma and ambition," according to the site.


And you gleaned all this out of Beyonce from the lyrics to "Survivor" and "Bills, Bills, Bills, Bills?" lol lol lol Just take the "L," man. You're reading way too much into it and your bias is making you unreasonable.
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Reply #94 posted 02/01/07 10:37pm

murph

sosgemini said:

i think some of you are trying to force your perspective on others and its rather silly...just accept that others have differing viewpoints and agree to disagree...

i. think. beyonces. image. is. slutty.

just like i think janet's is...and just like i think madonna's has been. big woo. you disagree. get over it. my lord, its like some of you are in need of bitch fighting here on the org to let out life aggressions or something...well, its tiring...it really is...so keep getting your panties in a bunch over this thread...cause in the end, i still think beyonce sells a slutty image to sell records...

and janet's done it...and madonna's done it...and shakira's done it...and many other's before...and even some men have done it...big woo!!!

lol



And I'm saying the chick is conservative compared to her peers...I'm saying someone doing the booty up doesn't mean they are perpetuating a "slutty" image or wearing the kind of outfit your posted (WTF???)..I'm saying you stepped over the line with this one...No panties bunched up...You are a moderator, right? Come better than that...You are helping to run a site here...Be a bit more responsible in what you say...That's all I'm saying...But beyond all that, your statement is just flawed and clueless...
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Reply #95 posted 02/01/07 10:39pm

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Najee said:

Moonbeam said:

Again, the original article states this:

The 25-year-old singer-actress tops the website's list ranking the "most alluring" female celebrities as determined by its readers and staff. Voters were asked to consider qualities beyond sex appeal and beauty, such as "intelligence, humour, charisma and ambition," according to the site.


And you gleaned all this out of Beyonce from the lyrics to "Survivor" and "Bills, Bills, Bills, Bills?" lol lol lol Just take the "L," man. You're reading way too much into it and your bias is making you unreasonable.


Hey, I resent that! mad


















I never mentioned "Survivor". hmph!
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Reply #96 posted 02/01/07 10:41pm

murph

Moonbeam said:

Najee said:



And you gleaned all this out of Beyonce from the lyrics to "Survivor" and "Bills, Bills, Bills, Bills?" lol lol lol Just take the "L," man. You're reading way too much into it and your bias is making you unreasonable.


Hey, I resent that! mad


















I never mentioned "Survivor". hmph!



Ha ha ha!!!
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Reply #97 posted 02/01/07 10:45pm

Najee

sosgemini said:

murph said:



Indeed..i just can't believe a moderator is allowed to say such things...lol...It's all good though...We all got our personal hang-ups...


see, and there it is folks...two people just can't believe someone would have an differing view then theirs...especially a moderator of this website..


No, you just look silly with this lame argument to disguise an evident bias against Beyonce.

If Beyonce was in concert performing some phallic motion with a flag pole -- like what Madonna did with the Puerto Rico flag -- then I can see your point. Anything that would be considered abnormally erotic or raunchy, I can agree with.

But that picture you showed is virtually a standard outfit a lot of female recording acts wear in concert -- and it's certainly tamer than anything Madonna, Britney Spears, Janet Jackson and Shakira have worn. Hell, Britney was wearing more provocative stuff than that at 17. I've seen Toni Braxton in clothes racier than that. Tina Turner has worn stuff like that. You can name quite a few female acts who have worn an outfit like that in concert.

And keep in mind, we're on a Web site decidated to PRINCE, a person who has done and worn much more raunchy stuff in concert than Beyonce has ever worn or done and makes her music sound G-rated. Really, did you get this squeamish when you saw photos of Vanity and Sheila E. wearing stuff like this (or much more revealing) 20 years ago? lol lol lol

Take the "L" on this one, because it's pretty evident where you're coming from. And while you're at it, maybe you want to look at your avatar and tell us why the woman in it is not considered "perpetuating the image of a slut."

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Reply #98 posted 02/01/07 10:50pm

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I still don't get why there is a "W" or an "L" at stake here.
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Reply #99 posted 02/01/07 10:52pm

murph

Moonbeam said:

I still don't get why there is a "W" or an "L" at stake here.




Well, it should have nothing to do with u...

But it has everything to do with the slut comment...lol....That's a major L that has nothing to do with u...(And that's some old slang talk Moonbeam...Don't take it seriously homie...)
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Reply #100 posted 02/01/07 10:55pm

Najee

murph said:

And I'm saying the chick is conservative compared to her peers...I'm saying someone doing the booty up doesn't mean they are perpetuating a "slutty" image or wearing the kind of outfit your posted (WTF???)..I'm saying you stepped over the line with this one...No panties bunched up...You are a moderator, right? Come better than that...You are helping to run a site here...Be a bit more responsible in what you say...That's all I'm saying...But beyond all that, your statement is just flawed and clueless...


I agree -- what Beyonce wore in that photo is pretty much standard fare what most pop/soul acts wear in a concert. Not only that, that shot looked like one that was part of a choreographed dance routine, because the other background dancers were wearing similar outfits.

I'm sorry, but not every recording act wears an unironed T-shirt, blue jeans and Chuck Taylors as a standard outfit. It's something Beyonce and her dancers were wearing in a dance routine -- it's not like she was out in a mall wearing Vanity 6-style lingerie.

And once again; THIS IS A MODERATOR ON A WEB SITE DEDICATED TO PRINCE! A man who once wore a pair of pants with the ass cheeks cut out and replaced with some plastic cover over his behind!

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THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS!
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Reply #101 posted 02/01/07 10:55pm

Najee

Moonbeam said:

I still don't get why there is a "W" or an "L" at stake here.


It's an expression that while you certainly are entitled to your opinion, your reasoning for that opinion is based on questionable, unfounded and emotional thinking.
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Reply #102 posted 02/01/07 11:23pm

Najee

sosgemini said:

i think some of you are trying to force your perspective on others and its rather silly...just accept that others have differing viewpoints and agree to disagree...

i. think. beyonces. image. is. slutty.


This, mind you, from a moderator whose avatar has a picture of a woman in a Santa Claus-style bikini being held by a man.



Which one are you in the photo? lol lol lol It's evident you or someone you know has her panties in a literal bunch, based on that photo! lol lol lol

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Reply #103 posted 02/02/07 2:16am

Harlepolis

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Folks who're upset at Beyonce(or any other female like her) must really have low opinions of themselves.

She doesn't owe anything to anybody,,,if she wants to make a bonafide fool of herself, thats her personal grown biz.

you are right she doesn't owe anything to anybody, but i don't get your statement. you are saying that whoever hates on Beyonce has low opinions of themselves, yet you say that she is making a "bonafide fool of herself", so does this mean you have a low opinion of yourself? not trying to be smart, just trying to understand what you are saying is all. smile


Its a reference to the folks who said that she's making a complete ass of her self. And no, I don't think she does,,,,I think she knows EXACTLY what she's doing.
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Reply #104 posted 02/02/07 2:49am

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sosgemini said:

Najee said:



Here is your post: "...she perpetuates the image of a slut."

Again, I'm failing to see what Beyonce does that is considered raunchy compared to her peers. Her music is hardly considered a "slutty" image, and certainly not her appearance or public appearances. In fact, a lot of what Beyonce does is comparatively tame compared to some acts. IMO, your comments are unfounded and suggest a bias against Beyonce.




the first image found via google...shall i continue?
Puhleeze. It is a picture of her PERFORMING. You're reaching. I could easily bring up a pic of a near 50 year old Madonna performing in a fucking LEOTARD. You tell me which is more inappropriate?


The fact is that the people who are labeling her a slut are white (mostly) and their problem is that a Black woman DARED to be alluring and sexy and CONFIDENT-oh what a crime. You cannot justify calling her that. Nothing in personal life is scandalous (that we know of). She is in a monagamous relationship (as far as we know). She never had a reputation for being a whore....Madonna's name is practially synonomous with casual sex. Madonna isn't Bob Dylan either and Kylie's music is nothing more that over-sexed bubble-pop.

What was Beyonce supposed to wear on stage? an Aunt Jemima dress and apron? Madonna's not a slut though- she's fucked every man in Los Angeles-twice. Why is Beyonce any more offensive to you or any other orgers than the white women I've named who are actually slutty and nasty and oversexed and offensive? No one has answered that question. Cause the only true answer would be "Because I'm a bigot."
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Reply #105 posted 02/02/07 2:56am

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Kylie's music is nothing more that over-sexed bubble-pop.


Kylie's music since 1994 for the most part has had a lot more sophistication than anything Beyonce is capable of. wink
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Reply #106 posted 02/02/07 4:46am

Najee

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Puhleeze. It is a picture of her PERFORMING. You're reaching. I could easily bring up a pic of a near 50 year old Madonna performing in a fucking LEOTARD. You tell me which is more inappropriate?


The fact is that the people who are labeling her a slut are white (mostly) and their problem is that a Black woman DARED to be alluring and sexy and CONFIDENT-oh what a crime. You cannot justify calling her that. Nothing in personal life is scandalous (that we know of). She is in a monagamous relationship (as far as we know). She never had a reputation for being a whore....Madonna's name is practially synonomous with casual sex. Madonna isn't Bob Dylan either and Kylie's music is nothing more that over-sexed bubble-pop.

What was Beyonce supposed to wear on stage? an Aunt Jemima dress and apron? Madonna's not a slut though- she's fucked every man in Los Angeles-twice. Why is Beyonce any more offensive to you or any other orgers than the white women I've named who are actually slutty and nasty and oversexed and offensive? No one has answered that question. Cause the only true answer would be "Because I'm a bigot."


You can find pictures of a 60-year-old Debbie Harry wearing what I would call age-inappropriate clothes at award shows:



Mind you, this woman could be old enough to be Beyonce's grandmother and she's wearing clothes in a red-carpet setting that is comparable to the outfit Beyonce is wearing for a choreographed concert skit.

Not only is this a moderator on a Web site dedicated to Prince, but he or she HAS AN AVATAR OF A WOMAN POSING IN A SANTA CLAUS BIKINI BEING GRABBED BY A MAN! Talk about seeing a piece of wood in someone else's eye and missing the 2-by-4 on your back ...

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Reply #107 posted 02/02/07 5:50am

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1) you kids are making this stuff way to personal...


2) making accusations of racism is totally inappropriate and unneccessary and against this sites rules...

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