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Thread started 01/17/07 7:01am

MikeMatronik

Artists that influenced Joy Division

I'm listening now to "Unknown Pleasure" and I sense a Bowie influence there, especialy from "Heroes" and "Low"
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Reply #1 posted 01/17/07 7:15am

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I just read that David Byrne was SORT OF influenced by Joy Division when Talking Heads recorded "Remain in Light".

He had read a review of Joy Division and thought they sounded fascinating, so he wrote a song based on what he thought the band must sound like. After the band recorded the song, Byrne finally got to hear Joy Division, and he was disappointed that the band didn't sound like what he expected from the review, but the song (I think it was "The Overload"?) made it on the album anyway.
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/07 7:18am

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Joy Division was definitely influenced by Berlin-era Bowie. Before they settled on Joy Division, the band was called Warsaw, after the instrumental on Low.
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/07 7:38am

NorthernLad

Axchi696 said:

Joy Division was definitely influenced by Berlin-era Bowie. Before they settled on Joy Division, the band was called Warsaw, after the instrumental on Low.

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And when you consider how influential Joy Division was, it become even more apparent how important Bowie's "Low " and "Heroes" albums were to alternative music in general.
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Reply #4 posted 01/17/07 7:43am

MikeMatronik

NorthernLad said:

Axchi696 said:

Joy Division was definitely influenced by Berlin-era Bowie. Before they settled on Joy Division, the band was called Warsaw, after the instrumental on Low.

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And when you consider how influential Joy Division was, it become even more apparent how important Bowie's "Low " and "Heroes" albums were to alternative music in general.


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Reply #5 posted 01/17/07 8:37am

GangstaFam

They had their influences, but they definitely stumbled onto something that no one else had done before. They're an arcehtype.
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Reply #6 posted 01/17/07 12:22pm

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MikeMatronik said:

I'm listening now to "Unknown Pleasure" and I sense a Bowie influence there, especialy from "Heroes" and "Low"



Kraftwerk, Giorgio Moroder, Bowie, The Sex Pistols (Joy Division formed after seeing the Pistols play The Free Trade Hall on The Anarchy Tour in 1976), The Clash, The Velvet Underground (covered Sister Ray), The Stooges and Iggy Pop (Mr Curtis topped himself after listening to The Idiot), the author JG Ballard (The Atrocity Exhibition was one of Curtis' favourite books) and the film director Werner Herzog.
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Reply #7 posted 01/17/07 12:26pm

GangstaFam

Shapeshifter said:

Kraftwerk, Giorgio Moroder, Bowie, The Sex Pistols (Joy Division formed after seeing the Pistols play The Free Trade Hall on The Anarchy Tour in 1976), The Clash, The Velvet Underground (covered Sister Ray), The Stooges and Iggy Pop (Mr Curtis topped himself after listening to The Idiot), the author JG Ballard (The Atrocity Exhibition was one of Curtis' favourite books) and the film director Werner Herzog.

Good list.

Ian was also really into the beat poets and William Burroughs. I believe The Doors were a heavy influence as well.
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Reply #8 posted 01/17/07 12:31pm

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GangstaFam said:

Shapeshifter said:

Kraftwerk, Giorgio Moroder, Bowie, The Sex Pistols (Joy Division formed after seeing the Pistols play The Free Trade Hall on The Anarchy Tour in 1976), The Clash, The Velvet Underground (covered Sister Ray), The Stooges and Iggy Pop (Mr Curtis topped himself after listening to The Idiot), the author JG Ballard (The Atrocity Exhibition was one of Curtis' favourite books) and the film director Werner Herzog.

Good list.

Ian was also really into the beat poets and William Burroughs. I believe The Doors were a heavy influence as well.


Ah yeah, very good points. Burroughs was a huge influence, and he loved The Doors - you can hear the Morrison influence on his ethereal vocal style.
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Reply #9 posted 01/17/07 1:20pm

MikeMatronik

Thanks a lot for all of your input! biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 01/17/07 11:33pm

SenseOfDoubt

In case of Kraftwerk, I think it was especially "Trans Europe Expres" that drew their attention. If I recall the story correctly, Ian once play that album to the band, but none of them were that positive - at the beginning at least.
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Reply #11 posted 01/17/07 11:57pm

GangstaFam

SenseOfDoubt said:

In case of Kraftwerk, I think it was especially "Trans Europe Expres" that drew their attention. If I recall the story correctly, Ian once play that album to the band, but none of them were that positive - at the beginning at least.

And then look what happened to them as New Order.
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Reply #12 posted 01/18/07 3:20am

SenseOfDoubt

GangstaFam said:

SenseOfDoubt said:

In case of Kraftwerk, I think it was especially "Trans Europe Expres" that drew their attention. If I recall the story correctly, Ian once play that album to the band, but none of them were that positive - at the beginning at least.

And then look what happened to them as New Order.


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