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Reply #60 posted 12/23/06 5:39pm

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roundables said:

VoicesCarry said:



The 8-year-old comment was NOT a cheap shot. If you went to a Mariah concert around 1995, you would know that a MASSIVE portion of her fanbase was, at the time, young tween and teenage girls.
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Massive portion of her fanbase was teenage girls and their MOMS. She had a sizable adult audience. Hell, you can still spot them at her concerts now they stay for Hero and exit stage left when the chairs are put on stage for Fantasy.


Roundables, Mariah's music generic pop/r&B drivel. Period. She's fluff. A non-artist artist. Admit the truth to yourself. Her shit sells bigtime at Wal Mart. There isnt an original bone in her body and her live performances make Celine Dion look like Tina Turner. She blows. Of course...just my HUMBLE opinion.
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Reply #61 posted 12/23/06 7:12pm

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badujunkie said:

roundables said:



Massive portion of her fanbase was teenage girls and their MOMS. She had a sizable adult audience. Hell, you can still spot them at her concerts now they stay for Hero and exit stage left when the chairs are put on stage for Fantasy.


Roundables, Mariah's music generic pop/r&B drivel. Period. She's fluff. A non-artist artist. Admit the truth to yourself. Her shit sells bigtime at Wal Mart. There isnt an original bone in her body and her live performances make Celine Dion look like Tina Turner. She blows. Of course...just my HUMBLE opinion.
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Every artist in the top 10 of bilboard is there beacuse they sell heaps at places like wall mart. Even a group like the scissor sister were noted as selling less records than they would have beacuse they were banned from a major retail chain, that argument has no merit or point.
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Reply #62 posted 12/23/06 9:28pm

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badujunkie said:

roundables said:



Massive portion of her fanbase was teenage girls and their MOMS. She had a sizable adult audience. Hell, you can still spot them at her concerts now they stay for Hero and exit stage left when the chairs are put on stage for Fantasy.


Roundables, Mariah's music generic pop/r&B drivel. Period. She's fluff. A non-artist artist. Admit the truth to yourself. Her shit sells bigtime at Wal Mart. There isnt an original bone in her body and her live performances make Celine Dion look like Tina Turner. She blows. Of course...just my HUMBLE opinion.
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No. I won't co-sign you hating on Mariah. There was nothing generic about Vision of Love, Vanishing, Breakdown, Close My Eyes, Reflections, Fly Like A Bird, and I could go on. Her shit sells big at WalMart, and? That doesn't take away from the fact that she has made some good songs. If that's your HUMBLE opinon that's fine just be aware that it's your OPINION, and not others.
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Reply #63 posted 12/23/06 10:02pm

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Untouchable said:

Moonbeam said:



nod lick

Anyway, back on topic, does Debbie Harry count by putting Fab Five Freddy in the "Rapture" vid?




Annie LIKE hip-hop collabo originators! Annie LIKE sistas doin' it for themselves!


Annie LOVE! cool
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Reply #64 posted 12/23/06 10:05pm

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Untouchable said:





Annie LIKE hip-hop collabo originators! Annie LIKE sistas doin' it for themselves!


Annie LOVE! cool

Bad Annie! Annie MAL!
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Reply #65 posted 12/26/06 9:53am

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roundables said:

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I don't think she has popularized these people....they were all successful, sometimes on a massive scale, before she got to them. Take Cam'ron - she sampled a huge hit that was only a few years old. Now I know Boy (I Need You) was a total flop so it's not like the average pop listener's awareness of Cam'ron was increased by anything but his original track. Jadakiss, too, was on a Mariah track that nobody heard (Miss You), and he was already popular.
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lol Sorry, but when Mariah hooked up w/ ODB he wasn't successful on a massive scale. Wutang was huge but the face of Wu was Method Man.


Then how the hell was I a ten year old, suburban, white girl and I was already familiar with him?
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Reply #66 posted 12/26/06 2:18pm

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lol Sorry, but when Mariah hooked up w/ ODB he wasn't successful on a massive scale. Wutang was huge but the face of Wu was Method Man.


Then how the hell was I a ten year old, suburban, white girl and I was already familiar with him?


Great. I said the typical one wouldn't I didn't say all did I? What was your favorite song by him? I'll wait for you to hit up Google before replying w/ your lying ass.
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Reply #67 posted 12/26/06 2:35pm

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roundables said:

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Then how the hell was I a ten year old, suburban, white girl and I was already familiar with him?


Great. I said the typical one wouldn't I didn't say all did I? What was your favorite song by him? I'll wait for you to hit up Google before replying w/ your lying ass.


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Reply #68 posted 12/27/06 12:40am

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zzz Besides, the credit for adding O.D.B. to the remix goes to its producer...




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Reply #69 posted 12/27/06 1:35pm

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CinisterCee said:

badujunkie said:

1. "Fantasy" was a huge number 1 smash for weeks (it even debuted at number 1, supplanting "Runaway" as the highest debut single by a female artist)


And specifically it was the remix that was well-known.

I couldn't even tell ya how Heavy D's rap on "Alright" goes.

"Now be it thick as a milkshake or thin as a corn flake..." dancing jig
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Reply #70 posted 12/27/06 1:40pm

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zzz Besides, the credit for adding O.D.B. to the remix goes to its producer...




...Sean "Puffy" Combs, bitches! nana

he produced that? i shoulda known with the sample but i didnt!
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Reply #71 posted 12/27/06 2:50pm

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She went from doing Shitney Houston type music to doing shit hop. I'll tell ya, the girl has absolutely no taste whatsoever. lol
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Reply #72 posted 12/27/06 2:53pm

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Mariah certainly knows how to hand out ice cream cones to willing teens, tho. That's a fact. pussy
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Reply #73 posted 12/28/06 8:53am

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roundables said:

theVelvetRoper said:



Then how the hell was I a ten year old, suburban, white girl and I was already familiar with him?


Great. I said the typical one wouldn't I didn't say all did I? What was your favorite song by him? I'll wait for you to hit up Google before replying w/ your lying ass.


Yes, because that's what I do with my time, "lie" and then prove myself to some loser over the Internet who has nothing better to do than accuse complete strangers over making up something so friggin' stupid and insignificant. Get a fucking grip.
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Reply #74 posted 12/29/06 11:43am

roundables

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roundables said:



Great. I said the typical one wouldn't I didn't say all did I? What was your favorite song by him? I'll wait for you to hit up Google before replying w/ your lying ass.


Yes, because that's what I do with my time, "lie" and then prove myself to some loser over the Internet who has nothing better to do than accuse complete strangers over making up something so friggin' stupid and insignificant. Get a fucking grip.



lol Right. Still not even a mention of an ODB song in that paragraph.
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Reply #75 posted 12/29/06 9:53pm

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Mary J. Blige probably made it fashionable.
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Reply #76 posted 12/29/06 9:55pm

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roundables said:

theVelvetRoper said:



Yes, because that's what I do with my time, "lie" and then prove myself to some loser over the Internet who has nothing better to do than accuse complete strangers over making up something so friggin' stupid and insignificant. Get a fucking grip.



lol Right. Still not even a mention of an ODB song in that paragraph.


I know you're a stan, but TVR knows what she's talking about. disbelief
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Reply #77 posted 12/29/06 11:56pm

roundables

VoicesCarry said:

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lol Right. Still not even a mention of an ODB song in that paragraph.


I know you're a stan, but TVR knows what she's talking about. disbelief



lol Yeah, I can tell
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