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Thread started 12/20/06 4:30am

shaomi

Madonna's Music: best album of the decade?

I know it's only 2006 but over the years i find this album a true "visionnary": not only did it understand & use everything that makes a good pop song, but it was so much announcing what was 2 come: electroclash as the predominant musical movement of the 2000's, the resurgence of taste for 80's synths & sounds, minimalist hip-hop...

I don't know, "Music" sounds just perfect 2 me, & 6 years after its release it still could have been recorded yesterday & sound perfectly modern. The melodies r catchy, the arrangments r just what's necessary 2 feel the essence of the song, the lyrics r clever, the mix is so damn neat...

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Reply #1 posted 12/20/06 4:38am

IstenSzek

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i've always had mixed feelings about this album, just like i have
with American Life.

it feels like half the disc is extremely good and very well done,
yet the other half is generic songs that copy past hits (like the
song that is just Beautiful Stranger Pt II etc).

if you'd mix those two albums together you could come up with one
very tight disc.

anywayz, people will dislike me bringing this up again since it's
like most madonna fans think its not cool anymore to state it but
i just think that Ray of Light is her best attempt at electro.

it's a perfect balance between techno/ambient/electro and a more
personal and balanced lyrical theme. the album flows really well
and hardly ever sets a foot wrong.

to me, albums like Music and American Life try to take that feel
and push it further. and imo they both fail on that account. the
feeling they give me is one of cold contemporary dance, with the
exception of a handfull of great, warm tunes.

neither one reaches the intimate warmth and glow of Ray of Light
in either the musical surroundings or the lyrical approach.

ramble ramble ramble blahblah what i meant to say is that i think
Music is a cool album but not album of the decade. not even if it
is just conserning madonna's own output.

biggrin

sorry, rant done now

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Reply #2 posted 12/20/06 4:48am

Cloudbuster

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No.

But I'm not a Madonna fan.
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Reply #3 posted 12/20/06 4:52am

SoulAlive

I think 'Confessions On A Dancefloor' is superior to 'Music' boxed 'Confessions' is the best Madonna album of this decade,imo.It's where she needs to be,musically: doing upbeat dance/pop tracks that are catchy and fun.Songs like "Get Together","Jump","Sorry","Push" and "Like It Or Not" are Madonna at her absolute best,imo.

Having said that,I still think 'Music' is very impressive too.It's probably her most adventurous album,and several tracks are highly experimental."Don't Tell Me" combines electonica with country music elements...the title track is a lively throwback to the electrofunk jams of the early 80s..."Impressive Instant" is modern-day disco that sizzles..."Paradise (Not For Me)" is dreamy and effective.Like the previous album 'Ray Of Light',it's still mostly electonica but I think there was a real effort to make the music "warmer",even country-ish."Gone" is one of her best ballads.It's not an album that you "get" the first time you play it.It takes a few spins before you realize how cool it really is.
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Reply #4 posted 12/20/06 5:37am

VoicesCarry

None of Madonna's albums this decade even come close.
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Reply #5 posted 12/20/06 5:56am

newskin69

Oddly, I was just listening to the album, and it's gotten better with time. My only problem with Music is that it's inconsistant. Half the album is extremely good dance music and the other half is generic folk mixed with electronica.

It's one of the gems of her catalog, for sure, and had she done all the album in the vein of 'Music', 'impressive instant' and 'runaway lover', it would have indeed probably been the best in the decade. Personally, I think COADF is a better album just cause it's more classic Madonna and it flows perfectly.

Ray of Light, of course, is Madonna's best work by far. Up till then, no major mainstream pop star(maybe with the possible exception of U2 and David Bowie) had made an album that embraced electronica so much.
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Reply #6 posted 12/20/06 6:12am

SoulAlive

newskin69 said:

Personally, I think COADF is a better album just cause it's more classic Madonna and it flows perfectly.


nod COADF is exactly where Madonna needs to be,musically.
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Reply #7 posted 12/20/06 6:22am

CrozzaUK

Its a decent pop album, nothing more. Its got some amazing tracks on there (Music, Dont Tell Me, What It Feels Like FOr A Girl), but its got some steaming piles mof turd on there too - mostly produced by William Orbit.

Runaway Lover is awful, Amazing is a cop out copy of Beautiful stranger, but not as interesting. Nobody's Perfect is a pretty ballad drowned by that dreadful vocoder and static plodding beats. Other than that its a good album.

I Deserve it is fantastic; Impressive Instant is interesting - and uses the vocoder to good effect; Paradise is a beautiful, and Gone marginally redeems William Orbit - Its a perfect album closer.

Having heard the outtake Liquid Love, i can honestly say Im amazed they left it off the album in favour of tracks like Runaway Lover. One of the interesting things about music is all the melodies are really downbeat - unusual for a supposed classic pop sounding album as it was hyped. The only tracks that are up sounding are Music and Dont Tell Me. Liquid Love would have injected a bit of "up-ness" to it.

In all honesty I think she was being quite lazy on this album - she could ahve produced better filler than that which brings this album down.
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/06 6:25am

Cloudbuster

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SoulAlive said:

newskin69 said:

Personally, I think COADF is a better album just cause it's more classic Madonna and it flows perfectly.


nod COADF is exactly where Madonna needs to be,musically.


Kylie Minogue?
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Reply #9 posted 12/20/06 6:26am

Moonbeam

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I think it's her worst album this decade- a totally hit or miss affair along the likes of Like a Virgin.
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/06 6:28am

VoicesCarry

Cloudbuster said:

SoulAlive said:



nod COADF is exactly where Madonna needs to be,musically.


Kylie Minogue?


lol Kylie actually does that sort of fluff way better since a) she doesn't take herself seriously and b) there are no lame lyrics about the perils of fame, a Madonna staple since the late 90's.
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/06 6:30am

SoulAlive

Cloudbuster said:

SoulAlive said:



nod COADF is exactly where Madonna needs to be,musically.


Kylie Minogue?


who's that? confuse
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Reply #12 posted 12/20/06 6:31am

Moonbeam

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Cloudbuster said:

SoulAlive said:



nod COADF is exactly where Madonna needs to be,musically.


Kylie Minogue?


Kylie's been killing Madonna so far this decade, so why not?
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Reply #13 posted 12/20/06 6:36am

SoulAlive

CrozzaUK said:

Having heard the outtake Liquid Love, i can honestly say Im amazed they left it off the album in favour of tracks like Runaway Lover. One of the interesting things about music is all the melodies are really downbeat - unusual for a supposed classic pop sounding album as it was hyped. The only tracks that are up sounding are Music and Dont Tell Me. Liquid Love would have injected a bit of "up-ness" to it.


I agree,"Liquid Love" is fantastic.I keep hoping that she will finally release that song on an album.And yes,'Music' is a very "downbeat" album...very mellow,in fact.I don't think she was quite ready to make a complete dance album yet.We had to wait until 2005 for that.
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Reply #14 posted 12/20/06 6:40am

SoulAlive

newskin69 said:

Ray of Light, of course, is Madonna's best work by far. Up till then, no major mainstream pop star(maybe with the possible exception of U2 and David Bowie) had made an album that embraced electronica so much.


ROL is my second favorite Madonna album,Erotica is Number One.I think her 90s work puts her 80s albums to shame.
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Reply #15 posted 12/20/06 7:25am

MikeMatronik

The best Madonna album of the decade is American Life. Music was just a prelude to it
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Reply #16 posted 12/20/06 7:26am

MikeMatronik

SoulAlive said:

newskin69 said:

Ray of Light, of course, is Madonna's best work by far. Up till then, no major mainstream pop star(maybe with the possible exception of U2 and David Bowie) had made an album that embraced electronica so much.


ROL is my second favorite Madonna album,Erotica is Number One.I think her 90s work puts her 80s albums to shame.


Especially the horrible piece of shit that is the Like a virgin album
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Reply #17 posted 12/20/06 7:27am

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

The best Madonna album of the decade is American Life. Music was just a prelude to it


I would have to agree with you, even though I didn't like it at first. It is certainly her most interesting.
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Reply #18 posted 12/20/06 7:28am

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:

The best Madonna album of the decade is American Life. Music was just a prelude to it


I would have to agree with you, even though I didn't like it at first. It is certainly her most interesting.


Amen. sista!
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Reply #19 posted 12/20/06 7:29am

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



I would have to agree with you, even though I didn't like it at first. It is certainly her most interesting.


Amen. sista!


lol You're so cute.
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Reply #20 posted 12/20/06 7:30am

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



Amen. sista!


lol You're so cute.


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Reply #21 posted 12/20/06 7:55am

Ace

Haven't heard the rest of the album, but "Nobody Knows Me", "American Life" and "Hollywood" are enough to make that album #1 for me. Music is very strong, though, and "Gone" just might be my favorite Madge track ever.
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Reply #22 posted 12/20/06 7:57am

Ace

SoulAlive said:

her 90s work puts her 80s albums to shame.

nod
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Reply #23 posted 12/20/06 8:14am

MikeMatronik

I think the only flaw of Ray of light is the length.
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Reply #24 posted 12/20/06 9:31am

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I love all that is Madonna.

And I think Music is the weakest of the later-Madonna catalog.

Lars hits the nail on the head with this:

it feels like half the disc is extremely good and very well done,
yet the other half is generic songs that copy past hits (like the
song that is just Beautiful Stranger Pt II etc).
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Reply #25 posted 12/20/06 11:45am

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:

The best Madonna album of the decade is American Life. Music was just a prelude to it


I would have to agree with you, even though I didn't like it at first. It is certainly her most interesting.

"American Life" is by far the best so far.
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Reply #26 posted 12/20/06 11:47am

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:



Kylie Minogue?


lol Kylie actually does that sort of fluff way better since a) she doesn't take herself seriously and b) there are no lame lyrics about the perils of fame, a Madonna staple since the late 90's.

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Reply #27 posted 12/20/06 12:05pm

badujunkie

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IstenSzek said:

i've always had mixed feelings about this album, just like i have
with American Life.

it feels like half the disc is extremely good and very well done,
yet the other half is generic songs that copy past hits (like the
song that is just Beautiful Stranger Pt II etc).

if you'd mix those two albums together you could come up with one
very tight disc.

anywayz, people will dislike me bringing this up again since it's
like most madonna fans think its not cool anymore to state it but
i just think that Ray of Light is her best attempt at electro.

it's a perfect balance between techno/ambient/electro and a more
personal and balanced lyrical theme. the album flows really well
and hardly ever sets a foot wrong.

to me, albums like Music and American Life try to take that feel
and push it further. and imo they both fail on that account. the
feeling they give me is one of cold contemporary dance, with the
exception of a handfull of great, warm tunes.

neither one reaches the intimate warmth and glow of Ray of Light
in either the musical surroundings or the lyrical approach.

ramble ramble ramble blahblah what i meant to say is that i think
Music is a cool album but not album of the decade. not even if it
is just conserning madonna's own output.

biggrin

sorry, rant done now

redface
[Edited 12/20/06 4:39am]


AGREED! "Music" and "American Life" should have been rolled into one and released in 2002. "Drowned World" tour should have come a couple years earlier to support "Ray of Light."

Everyone knows "Hollywood" and "Intervention" were originally intended for "Music," right?

This would be perfect:

Music
Hollywood
Impressive Instant
Nobody Knows Me
Runaway Lover
Mother & Father
Nobody's Perfect
Dont Tell Me
Intervention
What it Feels Like For A Girl
Paradise
Easy Ride
I'm So Stupid
Love Profusion
Gone

All killer, no filler. Fuck "Nothing Fails."
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #28 posted 12/20/06 12:14pm

GangstaFam

badujunkie said:

IstenSzek said:

i've always had mixed feelings about this album, just like i have
with American Life.

it feels like half the disc is extremely good and very well done,
yet the other half is generic songs that copy past hits (like the
song that is just Beautiful Stranger Pt II etc).

if you'd mix those two albums together you could come up with one
very tight disc.

anywayz, people will dislike me bringing this up again since it's
like most madonna fans think its not cool anymore to state it but
i just think that Ray of Light is her best attempt at electro.

it's a perfect balance between techno/ambient/electro and a more
personal and balanced lyrical theme. the album flows really well
and hardly ever sets a foot wrong.

to me, albums like Music and American Life try to take that feel
and push it further. and imo they both fail on that account. the
feeling they give me is one of cold contemporary dance, with the
exception of a handfull of great, warm tunes.

neither one reaches the intimate warmth and glow of Ray of Light
in either the musical surroundings or the lyrical approach.

ramble ramble ramble blahblah what i meant to say is that i think
Music is a cool album but not album of the decade. not even if it
is just conserning madonna's own output.

biggrin

sorry, rant done now

redface
[Edited 12/20/06 4:39am]


AGREED! "Music" and "American Life" should have been rolled into one and released in 2002. "Drowned World" tour should have come a couple years earlier to support "Ray of Light."

Everyone knows "Hollywood" and "Intervention" were originally intended for "Music," right?

This would be perfect:

Music
Hollywood
Impressive Instant
Nobody Knows Me
Runaway Lover
Mother & Father
Nobody's Perfect
Dont Tell Me
Intervention
What it Feels Like For A Girl
Paradise
Easy Ride
I'm So Stupid
Love Profusion
Gone

All killer, no filler. Fuck "Nothing Fails."

Your Madonna card has been officially revoked.
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Reply #29 posted 12/20/06 12:49pm

MikeMatronik

GangstaFam said:

badujunkie said:



AGREED! "Music" and "American Life" should have been rolled into one and released in 2002. "Drowned World" tour should have come a couple years earlier to support "Ray of Light."

Everyone knows "Hollywood" and "Intervention" were originally intended for "Music," right?

This would be perfect:

Music
Hollywood
Impressive Instant
Nobody Knows Me
Runaway Lover
Mother & Father
Nobody's Perfect
Dont Tell Me
Intervention
What it Feels Like For A Girl
Paradise
Easy Ride
I'm So Stupid
Love Profusion
Gone

All killer, no filler. Fuck "Nothing Fails."

Your Madonna card has been officially revoked.

eek eek eek eek eek

CORRECTION:

Hollywood and Intervention where not to be included in "Music".

They were not recorded on the "Music" sessions!

[Edited 12/20/06 12:50pm]
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