So is the consensus: "Eminem sux ass"?

Funny, in their rebroadcast of the awards on Saturday, MTV edited out Eminem's exchange with Triumph the Insult dog, as well as his "I'd hit a man with glasses" threat to moby.

All I have to say is how do u know that he was directing that comment to Moby when the camera didn't even go to Moby's direction and in all reality I think if I remember right he said it after someone was booing him and was angry and said yeah keep booing little girl I'm not afraid to hit a man with glasses. So it is possible that it was an audience member.

Hes just Vanilla Ice in the 21st centuary.

Triumph the Insult Dog will be on Conan tonight (Wed) discussing his side of what went down. Should be interesting.

Eminem is very aware of how messed up it is that the biggest selling rapper is a peroxide dyed blond haired blue contact wearing minimumly talented class clown created by Dre. And I dont even dislike him. Its just Elvis all over again. Enough already

NuPwrSoul said:

For the record, in addition to Will Smith and P. Diddy , Eminem basically has entire songs dedicated to taking on Canibus ("Cannabitch don't want no beef with Slim...") and Jermaine Dupris, both of whom are black last time I checked. Oh and there's also a line about R. Kelly getting "spit on and hit with shit.."
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I'm from Detroit and between M&M & Kid Rock I'm not sure which is more of an embarrasment.

When you have money pouring on to you from a song talking about how great you are, what are you so pissed about?

So he doesn't like this and he doesn't like that. When did his opinion matter?

I think the problem is he's had one too many "beat-downs" and is still trying to get back at the world.
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JamesMarshallHendrix said:

beat-downs?

bullies, ass beatings, abuse from everyone because he's a loud mouth little man

the title of this thread says it all!! great topic!
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I don't follow Eminem, but I did catch that song of his on TV awhile ago and then on the radio yesterday as I drove my daughter to her job.
It's got a great sound to the record.
BUT...what alarmed me was his bitterness and not anger but RAGE toward his mother and father.
It's just not right to curse your mother; to curse your father or mother(parents). You know, honoring our parents is the commandment with a PROMISE...that we may live long on the earth.
I don't care how bad of a parent they were. How bad of a childhood someone had, don't curse your father or mother.
Is this all an act? Or is he really that screwed up in his head?
He needs to learn respect and obviously is lacking in love-receiving and giving.
Very sad.
I hope he finds the better way.

Eminem attacked Moby because in interview after interview, Moby attacked Eminem. Eminem also went off on Canibus, but I think Canibus is just trying to make a career out of publicly attacking more popular MC's - LL, anyone? Top ten of all time, anyone?

Oh yeah, the "anger management class" remark was jsut a commercial for the Anger Management Tour that he's on, also featuring Ludacris (also known as "Luda" to the posers) and Papa Roach.

Okay...My view on Eminem, as a musician myself, is that he is extremely talented...I respect his lyrical content, because he speaks about his life, and the shit he has gone through. Good for him for having the balls to do that...so many people feel the way he does,and many don't have the ability to do that, or the balls to say it...That's why he connects with so many people, on a global scale...This is life people, and freedom of expression is a beautiful thing. If you are an artist, you can certainly relate to that. The intensity of his music does not lie, and he is not putting on an act...We need people like him in music...It is essential to life, if you hope to grow, and learn from other's experiences. A negative experience, can always become a positive one, if you open your mind to that...

Editorial

Death and pop culture mindset
by Leonard Pitts Jr. Syndicated columnist

Rick James couldn't stand Prince. We're talking a little over 20 years ago, back when Prince was an acclaimed new performer and Rick was one of the biggest names in pop. His sizable ego wounded by the attention accorded this fey wanderkid, James used to vent about how worthless and overrated the younger singer was. He hated him.
And yet, somehow, he never shot him. For all the nasty things James said about Prince and other artists, the idea that the antipathy might become lethal was unthinkable.
All you have to do to understand how profoundly the world has changed is to read the recent two-part Los Angeles Times series on the murder of rap icon Tupac Shakur. The Times reports that the killing, which took place in Las Vegas six years ago this month, was carried out by Los Angeles street gang members commissioned by a rival rap star, Christopher Wallace, known professionally as the Notorious B.I.G. Wallace himself was gunned down six months later in Los Angeles.
Members of Wallace's family have vigorously denied the newspaper report and have produced evidence to buttress their contention that he was not even in Vegas that night.
The Times piece has produced fierce debate in hip-hop and black journalism circles, much of it critical of the reporting and offering wild speculation about the newspaper's supposed motivation. In one online editorial, black journalist Kevin Powell hints broadly that the Times had a racial agenda in running the story, warning readers that "we should never allow folks who do not have our best interests at heart to control our thinking."
He calls the L.A. Times' account "sensationalized."
And yet, neither he, nor to my knowledge anyone else, has been able to call it unthinkable. To say that the very idea of pop stars settling disputes with guns is too outlandish to be believed.
I'm not here to defend-or condemn-the Times report and have no way of knowing whether Christopher Wallace actually did what he's accused of doing. No, what has me shaking my head is that we're even forced to take the allegation seriously.
What does that tell you about the world we have made? "WE" meaning consumers of American pop culture in general, but blacks in particular. We've created-or simply countenanced-a world in which the line between video fantasy and street-corner reality is all but erased, where thug values and gangster mores demand blood for the faintest slights and we-still talking blacks-walking around acting as if this were as unremarkable as fluorescent lights and traffic jams.
We do not criticize or hold accountable, particularly in forums where whites may be watching, because some of us regard that as an act of racial betrayal. So nobody says the obvious: "Pop stars don't shoot each other!" There's something seriously wrong when it becomes impossible to distinguish music acts from street gangs.
I understand the corrosive effects of drugs and poverty on the black community. I also understand that those effects have been with us for generations. Not to sound dismissive, but that's old news. What's new is these diseased mores and this collective shrug in the face of them.
This isn't about liking or not liking rap. It's about surrendering-or not surrendering-to a mindset that allows us to contemplate the murder of young men without crying out, shouting, SCREAMING that this is wrong.
I'd never hold up the pop stars of 20 years ago-Rick James in particular-as role models. For all that, though, we children of that era had not yet learned to face dysfunction and misconduct with a shrug.
And that's why James and Prince are one thing Tupac Shakur and Christopher Wallace will never be.
Alive.

mistermcgee said:

AMEN!! Like I said,I think Eminem is a great rapper and writer.But his venemous,angry lyrics are too much.

NuPwrSoul said:

He does say shit about Canibus. Maybe he gets along with every one else. I have also heard a song where he mentions having written a song for Jay-Z and not gotten credit.

christophertracy1986 said:

A flash in the pan who is now on his 3rd CD and still outselling every one else.

thecloud9mission said:

If you really think that, then you don't listen to him.