DavidEye said:

Actually, that statement wasn't aimed at Moby, but rather, to the puppeteer guy sitting in the isle, who had just done an improv interview with Moby poking fun at Eminem's "views" about him. Afterwards tried to spice up his "fill in" time before the next presenter by running up to Eminem and trying to get a few comments about Moby (who was sitting two rows behind him), as he was in the isle.
Eminem was clearly caught off guard, and warned the man
several times that it wasn't his "tv time" at that moment,
and that the guy should move on. That basically meant, in
tele production lingo- 'you're not one of the mtv personell
that has authorized 'clearance' to approach me on camera , etc., etc.," He was well within his rights as an artist to be angry about that (the riders and contractual specifications for artists appearing on these shows are followed to the "T"). However, I agree that his RESPONSE to the situation was completely juvenile.

...Ironically, during his next acceptence speech, he did say to the audience..."y'all gotta forgive me...I been goin' thru anger management class..." It was almost meant to be light-hearted, but one could see some real sadness in that whole thing. In my opinion, MTV really dropped the ball with this one. I mean, what could have been a good piece of satire, turned into some ugly thing that left
Eminem looking like an asshole and Moby sqirming in his seat, because they couldn't control a loose cannon (who was one of their own!). Plus, it transpired ON THE AIR? Live and unedited in front of millions? I betcha ten bucks there were more than a few MTV producers chewing on their hand knuckles while they saw that happen on the monitors...

Eminem is doing what he felt that he wanted to do since his teen years, which is do hardcore rap. But, most of us have grown up, and dealt with reality. Eminem needs to take his money, quit the bullshit, and enjoy his kid and use his life productively, as should Dr. Dre. They both have extraordinary talent and should use it in a positive and creative way by influencing positivity and stopping the nonsense. That is what I learned when I was about 22 years old. Me and Marshall are the same age. He grew up at the same time I did about 150 miles north of me in Detroit. I was once a hardcore rapper too back in the day, and I observed alot of the same hardships as he did, but now, I realize that I can't do shit about the past, I can only better myself for the future. Just some advise from personal experience. I don't think any one "person" is an asshole, just the powers, principality, and spirit in a negative person is what I battle.







JD

He's becoming a parody of himself. It's boring. I don't hear much diversity in his writing. But he knows he has to strike while the iron is hot.

youre 30something, not 13. take your fucking vma award for that one lousy song and get off the stage. the moby remarks were the lowest point of the evening.

[color=blue:e0fb0d918c:58fb1a2dd7]M+M can kiss Moby's ass. Im not a big Moby fan but at least that dude can play.

JDODSON said:

On a little side note, what was also amusing was when Nas gave a rant about how there needs to be peace in the rap world, then Ja Rule and Ashanti come out on stage and give a shout out to their record label, Murder Inc. LOL
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 9:54:43 PDT 2002 by Tom]

tackam said:

You are right on point. And you know what's even funnier, EM seems to only bully other white kids... he's like that one white kid in the school who wanted to earn a rep with the black kids and did it by picking on other white kids.

I have yet to see him say shit about another rapper or black pop act. It's always Christina Aguilera, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Moby, Fred Durst, Carson Daly, Everlast... easy targets, but if you the MAN you say you are say shit about Nas, Jay Z, Camron, etc. Punkass.
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 0:37:26 PDT 2002 by NuPwrSoul]

SexLovely said:

Possibly, but he sure can sample and rip off other people's music better than most people. Moby is plastic.

Ok so he's talked shit about Will Smith and P Diddy... my theory still holds true... he's trying to get a rep by pickin on all the white kids and a nerd (will) and a herb (diddy).

I won't be able to watch that garbage until the Saturday rerun...

The rest of this programme was utter crap,

Blummin eck some of you really do see things in a different way to me! I have now watched the whole awards as I taped it the other night. The Eminem/Moby incident really wasn't that bad IMHO. He did not call Moby a girl (as Christopher wrongly stated). He was calling a girl in the audience "Moby Girl" for either heckling or booing him, maybe he assumed she was a Moby fan, maybe she wore glasses like Moby, this is speculation.

Ok so he's talked shit about Will Smith and P Diddy... my theory still holds true... he's trying to get a rep by pickin on all the white kids and a nerd (will) and a herb (diddy).