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Thread started 11/21/06 12:40am

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Mariah Carey 16 Years Later

Well i know alot of people dislike her for whatever reasons, but they are very few people that do actually have "longevity" in this business, and i really think the numbers will be shrinking more and more as the years go on, and the media increases. Mariah is one of the artists to me, that i always feel can do more, i still feel Mariahs best work is ahead of her, every artist that is going to stay around has their ups and downs, good and bad times, i mean the list of artists we could name that fall into this category is endless, but thats what careers and life is about.

Heres a little comparison of Mariah from 1990 and in 2006






The biggest thing i think that bothers me about people and their view of Mariah is the "Weight" issue. Ok heres the deal in the Photo from 1990 Mariah was 20 years old and she weighed about 110 pounds if she was lucky, I remember meeting Mariah back in 1991 when she was 21, people dont realize how tall Mariah is, she is 5'9 and with those heels she can reach to 6+ feet, and for that height 110 pounds is way underweight, but hey she was 20 years old. Guess what, when you get older you get heavier, also Mariah has made some "good coin" so she can enjoy fancy meals whenever, and she doesnt deny she likes to eat, which apparently is a crime in todays world. So looking at Mariah in 2006, i see a really confident HOT woman, maybe older, and a little heavier (thank god), but thats what growing up is all about.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/06 12:44am

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I've been a fan since day one. I prefer her earlier work, but I am still a fan.

To me, it's about the voice and the music. I do wish she would dress a little more like a 36 year old woman though(She'll be 37 in March).

I am looking forward to her next CD in 2007.
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/06 12:48am

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But thats the thing, Mariah dresses a whole lot of ways, and since day one i can remember Arsenio commenting on her short outfits, thats just a part of who she is. It would be like if PRINCE all of sudden wore jeans and flannel shirts instead of his usual outfits that make him Prince, his outfits dont limit his talent either, but i do feel because Mariah is a women, her wardrobe is always an issue simply because of the double standard of media. It uses sex to sell, but if some woman dresses sexy then she is "cheap or a slut".

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/06 12:52am

Stymie

I have zero problem with Mariah's weight, it's the whole sex sells thing society buys into. There are way more talented people out therewho will never get a shot because they don't look like that.
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/06 12:57am

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So she's not as thin as she was when she was barely out of her teens. Big deal, she's human! I think she looks healthier and more womanly with a little weight on her anyway.
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/06 1:37am

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Stymie said:

I have zero problem with Mariah's weight, it's the whole sex sells thing society buys into. There are way more talented people out therewho will never get a shot because they don't look like that.


But the thing is Mariah got her shot based on her vocals, i remember when i was working in Music Retail back then and about 6 months before Mariah even came out there was a 4-song cassette promo given out with NO PICTURE of her and that was her selling point and even when she started it had nothing to do with what she looked like at all, i think in the last 5-10 years the media has been all about the look and especially the music industry. I would never say Mariah got her chance based on her looks .
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/06 1:39am

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

So she's not as thin as she was when she was barely out of her teens. Big deal, she's human! I think she looks healthier and more womanly with a little weight on her anyway.


Totally agree thats the way its supposed to be, the media and hollywood forces this image on females that they should look a certain way, and everything is about weight, i personally think Mariah looks amazing, total perfection.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/06 1:40am

PurpleCharm

Mariah needs to dress more appropriately for her size and shape. She thinks she built like a brick house, but she's not.
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/06 2:22am

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PurpleCharm said:

Mariah needs to dress more appropriately for her size and shape. She thinks she built like a brick house, but she's not.

agree... her body is too buff... well at least her upper body... and it looks disproportionate... I think it also might be her fake boobs that makes her body disproportionate... (she just gained weight... and tried to act like she did something special eek )

But anyways... I like her music... but I cant say that Im a fan of her narcissistic personality, and ego... (even though I believe she is a nice person)... I cant stand anyone who has a big ego...
but I cant deny that I love her voice pre 2000's.... and I still like it today... but not as much.... and even her song WBT was one of my favorites songs of the 2000's.
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/06 2:36pm

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i was only a fan of her first record. i think it was one f the best debuts of the 90's . after that she stopped growing and being geniuine, went for a certain audience and lost her way, imo. and yes i gran you that she has worked with great producers but hiding behind them hardly make for creative grow,imo.

she should stick to solid material and keep her clothes on.
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/06 4:13pm

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I love the early Mariah.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #11 posted 11/21/06 4:18pm

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I have no problem with Mariah's weight at all. She looks just fine to me. What I dislike about her is how she flaunts herself in every video and always acts like such a stupid bimbo. I hate her fake tits too. Once she gots those new puppies, she seemed to lose some of her intelligence too. She's just way too much of a diva for my liking and her music just doesn't interest me much.
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Reply #12 posted 11/21/06 4:44pm

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fake tits


omfg
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/06 4:59pm

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Some of you guys have very Eurocentric views on beauty.

She a fine mutt - Kayne
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Reply #14 posted 11/21/06 5:31pm

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workingupahiyellasweat said:

Some of you guys have very Eurocentric views on beauty.

She a fine mutt - Kayne

people like women... who arent fake... and dont look fake.... and mariah's skin looks fake, her breast, hair, and nose looks fake...

she looked better when she first started... but now she has a plastic lookk ... and guys think anyone who dresses skanky is pretty or sexy..

lastdecember said:

UCantHavaDaMango said:

So she's not as thin as she was when she was barely out of her teens. Big deal, she's human! I think she looks healthier and more womanly with a little weight on her anyway.


Totally agree thats the way its supposed to be, the media and hollywood forces this image on females that they should look a certain way, and everything is about weight, i personally think Mariah looks amazing, total perfection.

its not necessarily her weight that people complain about... its that she is at least a size 8 or 10 and she tries to wear a size 2-6... and it makes her look big... and she dresses like a 16-22 year old girl and mariah is almost 40.

considering the fact that she is almost 40, i think her body looks good, but not small enough to prance around in bikini's and little dresses...

what is she going to do when she is 45?????

People really like her music.... but its her image including her personality, demands, behavior, and style of dress... i think people do not like.... neutral
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/06 5:52pm

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PurpleCharm said:

Mariah needs to dress more appropriately for her size and shape. She thinks she built like a brick house, but she's not.


and what exactly is a "brick house"?
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/06 5:59pm

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beret1022 said:

PurpleCharm said:

Mariah needs to dress more appropriately for her size and shape. She thinks she built like a brick house, but she's not.


and what exactly is a "brick house"?
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Reply #17 posted 11/21/06 6:09pm

beret1022

Why does she always wear that hideous looking pink blush on her cheeks?
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Reply #18 posted 11/21/06 6:12pm

ladygirl99

TotalAlisa said:

PurpleCharm said:

Mariah needs to dress more appropriately for her size and shape. She thinks she built like a brick house, but she's not.

agree... her body is too buff... well at least her upper body... and it looks disproportionate... I think it also might be her fake boobs that makes her body disproportionate... (she just gained weight... and tried to act like she did something special eek )

But anyways... I like her music... but I cant say that Im a fan of her narcissistic personality, and ego... (even though I believe she is a nice person)... I cant stand anyone who has a big ego...
but I cant deny that I love her voice pre 2000's.... and I still like it today... but not as much.... and even her song WBT was one of my favorites songs of the 2000's.

Im with you, I liked Mariah too from the 90s. She sucked after 1999.
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Reply #19 posted 11/21/06 9:43pm

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It's funny that some of the people who keep jumping down her throat for being flashy are the exact same people who are sighting personal freedom and the right to not be judged by the cover and the whole Dr.Phill slogans,, talk about contradictions

She could dress as flashy as she wants as long as she is making great music at the end of the day that some people enjoy (some of them SECRETLY) and some even get inspired by, which is what's supposed to matter the most in a musician

She is a geniun artist with an excellent songwriting skills (whether it's fun or deep stuff), and an amazing sense of melodies (by the testimony of music vets such as Dionne Warwick)

Mariah's an artist to stay nod
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Reply #20 posted 11/21/06 10:01pm

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Mariah was the BOMB back in the day. 2 bad she got caught up in the machine that is Hollywood
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Reply #21 posted 11/22/06 12:12am

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lastdecember said:



The biggest thing i think that bothers me about people and their view of Mariah is the "Weight" issue. Ok heres the deal in the Photo from 1990 Mariah was 20 years old and she weighed about 110 pounds if she was lucky, I remember meeting Mariah back in 1991 when she was 21, people dont realize how tall Mariah is, she is 5'9 and with those heels she can reach to 6+ feet, and for that height 110 pounds is way underweight, but hey she was 20 years old. Guess what, when you get older you get heavier, also Mariah has made some "good coin" so she can enjoy fancy meals whenever, and she doesnt deny she likes to eat, which apparently is a crime in todays world. So looking at Mariah in 2006, i see a really confident HOT woman, maybe older, and a little heavier (thank god), but thats what growing up is all about.



it's not "the weight issue" that i don't like. it "the skank issue."

the older she gets, the "younger" she dresses.
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Reply #22 posted 11/22/06 1:43am

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I have zero problem with Mariah's weight, it's the whole sex sells thing society buys into. There are way more talented people out therewho will never get a shot because they don't look like that.
Agreed Stymie. The powers that be, In the entertainment industry don't believe that women should have some meat on their hips, thighs and booty. They want women looking sickly like Nicole Richie and Lara Flynn Boyle. I like Mariah's body just the way it is.
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Reply #23 posted 11/22/06 2:04am

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For me, it has nothing to do with weight. There are women that weigh more than Mariah that look better in their clothes because they wear outfits that are flattering to their body shape. She can't wear the same kind of body clinging outfits that someone like Beyonce wears and expect to look good in it because they are shaped/built differently. She has broad shoulder, no ass, no hips and an undefined waist line, which means she needs to get a waredrobe that accentuates her positives and not draw you to her negatives.

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Reply #24 posted 11/22/06 2:11am

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PurpleCharm said:

For me, it has nothing to do with weight. There are women that weigh more than Mariah that look better in their clothes because they wear outfits that are flattering to their body shape. She can't wear the same kind of body clinging outfits that someone like Beyonce wears and expect to look good in it because they are shaped/built differently. She has broad shoulder, no ass, no hips and an undefined waist line, which means she needs to get a waredrobe that accentuates her positives and not draw you to her negatives.



She look hot. u look betetr than that? prove it
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Reply #25 posted 11/22/06 2:13am

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PurpleCharm said:

For me, it has nothing to do with weight. There are women that weigh more than Mariah that look better in their clothes because they wear outfits that are flattering to their body shape. She can't wear the same kind of body clinging outfits that someone like Beyonce wears and expect to look good in it because they are shaped/built differently. She has broad shoulder, no ass, no hips and an undefined waist line, which means she needs to get a waredrobe that accentuates her positives and not draw you to her negatives.



She look hot. u look betetr than that? prove it


You must be out of your cotdamn. I am not getting ready to get into a font battle with you over no damn Mariah Carey. lol
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Reply #26 posted 11/22/06 4:59am

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I don't like the way she flaunts her self nowadays. Even in her videos it's like she is constantly posing. Having said that, I've always felt she has got a great voice and although I have always enjoyed her old material, I am impress with "Mimi". I like the way she has rose from the ashes with that album, especially after she had be written off.
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Reply #27 posted 11/22/06 7:13am

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She's hot as hell, but I've never been a fan of her music. I can't take that oversinging. She goes out of her way to show she can hit certain notes. No one ever told her that "less is more".
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Reply #28 posted 11/22/06 12:25pm

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There was a thread months ago where people didn't believe her tits are fake. I dug up some pics & what was interesting was that in her pre-boob job days she was constantly covering up her chest w/ something, anything... her hands, a scarf, posing turned away from the camera... NOW she acts like her tits are the second coming confused It's very strange, the way an insecurity manifests.

That said, thank God she gained some weight b/c she was a bone before. Still it's pretty pathetic to watch her prance around w/ that dumbass smile & her body constantly on display when she's really pretty average shrug She revels in her physical appearance but if she didn't have that voice nobody would give a flying shit about her. She needs to sing some songs worth hearing already & quit pretending she's frickin' Marilyn Monroe - use that forever busted face for some good (singing!) instead of grinning about her purchased tits, flat ass & shitty records...
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There's a Bumhole in my Heart.
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