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Reply #30 posted 11/07/06 4:45am

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any links to interview?
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Reply #31 posted 11/07/06 4:50am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

DarlingDiana said:


Michael Jackson produced Billie Jean. Anyway, one song cannot define a producers entire works. What Will.I.Am can do with the Black Eyed Peas could be completly different to what he can do with Michael Jackson. That track that he plays for Michael during the AH interview sounds nothing like BEP.

wrong he wrote billy Jean and made a demo
Quincy Produced the final cut


Actually Mike gets co-producer credit for his four songs on Thriller.
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Reply #32 posted 11/07/06 4:55am

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Cloudbuster said:

Actually Mike gets co-producer credit for his four songs on Thriller.


Three of the four, fool. The Girl Is Mine is credited to Quincy alone, see. smile
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Reply #33 posted 11/07/06 6:12am

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I think you are all misinterpreting Michael's decision to work with Will.I.Am. It's not about charting. What's Michael got to prove? He's got the biggest selling album in history, he's sold 185 million albums around the world. He's had 13 #1 hits. He's had enough chart success.

In the AH interview, Michael said he choose Will because he's making "innovative, positive great music at the moment". Will also told Michael that he wants to create tracks like the Off The Wall album.

I think Will is perfect for Michael. He wants to dial it back to Off The Wall, and that would be so frickin awesome because that's Michael's best album by far. I listen to it more than Thriller. Michael's got to have someone who can bring out the Off The Wall/Thriller in him. Back in the early 80s, that someone was Quincy Jones. Now, that person could very well be Will.I.Am.
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Couldn't disagree more. Of course choosing him is about charting, his music doesnt sound too innovating to me. And if he wants to 'dial it back to Off The Wall' thats even worse.

I wish Michael would just make his own music without producers and especially without co-writers (as most of my most favourite songs by Michael are the ones he wrote himself) and without trying to fit in with the current music scene and just writing honest to god great melody driven pop songs. Invincible was atrocious because of it. I'm a huge Michael fan but I've now just lost the last shred of faith in him that he will make good music again.


The intention of working with Will.I.AM, is to get his juices flowing. The drum track that they played on the show was different from anything Michael had ever used before. He needs new fresh ideas. Working with new produers will give him those ideas. Also, just because others have not been given credit for working with Michael does not mean that he has worked on his music alone. The fact that his might have been working with a "Ghost" co-producer, has not been written for a reason. In my opinion, there isn't a need for him to work with Q. To me, this is a step backwards. Michael knows music and knows good music. He just needs to get to know and trust his own jugement again.
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Reply #34 posted 11/07/06 11:43am

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Cloudbuster said:

Cloudbuster said:

Actually Mike gets co-producer credit for his four songs on Thriller.


Three of the four, fool. The Girl Is Mine is credited to Quincy alone, see. smile

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Reply #35 posted 11/07/06 11:48am

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I agree, thank GOD for Michael Jackson...he makes Prince look so much better in every way by comparison lol
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Reply #36 posted 11/07/06 11:52am

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shorttrini said:

hellomoto said:


Couldn't disagree more. Of course choosing him is about charting, his music doesnt sound too innovating to me. And if he wants to 'dial it back to Off The Wall' thats even worse.

I wish Michael would just make his own music without producers and especially without co-writers (as most of my most favourite songs by Michael are the ones he wrote himself) and without trying to fit in with the current music scene and just writing honest to god great melody driven pop songs. Invincible was atrocious because of it. I'm a huge Michael fan but I've now just lost the last shred of faith in him that he will make good music again.


The intention of working with Will.I.AM, is to get his juices flowing. The drum track that they played on the show was different from anything Michael had ever used before. He needs new fresh ideas. Working with new produers will give him those ideas. Also, just because others have not been given credit for working with Michael does not mean that he has worked on his music alone. The fact that his might have been working with a "Ghost" co-producer, has not been written for a reason. In my opinion, there isn't a need for him to work with Q. To me, this is a step backwards. Michael knows music and knows good music. He just needs to get to know and trust his own jugement again.


I am not quite sure whether he knows good music, anymore..If the last 20 yrs is anything to go by, I believe he has regress and not evolve at all. If good music to some is; Heal the World, Lost children, Black and White, Scream and speed Demon then fair enough, but to me he has regress since his early, solo days.

His albums have no balance or flow anymore he either shouting and screeching out songs like Scream, Jam, Black or White etc or he is doing sappy songs like "Lost children", he wasn't even that sappy at 11 yrs old. Now and again you hear a little of the "Old" Michael; Stanger in Moscow, Butterflies, Break of Dawn. But more often than not his music alternate between disnified songs like Earth Song or shouting out songs like Scream...For these reasons alone he needs someone like Q in his corner.
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Reply #37 posted 11/07/06 11:54am

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not true, very few cats use samples now,




WHAT did u SAY?
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Reply #38 posted 11/07/06 12:00pm

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whatsgoingon said:

shorttrini said:



The intention of working with Will.I.AM, is to get his juices flowing. The drum track that they played on the show was different from anything Michael had ever used before. He needs new fresh ideas. Working with new produers will give him those ideas. Also, just because others have not been given credit for working with Michael does not mean that he has worked on his music alone. The fact that his might have been working with a "Ghost" co-producer, has not been written for a reason. In my opinion, there isn't a need for him to work with Q. To me, this is a step backwards. Michael knows music and knows good music. He just needs to get to know and trust his own jugement again.


I am not quite sure whether he knows good music, anymore..If the last 20 yrs is anything to go by, I believe he has regress and not evolve at all. If good music to some is; Heal the World, Lost children, Black and White, Scream and speed Demon then fair enough, but to me he has regress since his early, solo days.

His albums have no balance or flow anymore he either shouting and screeching out songs like Scream, Jam, Black or White etc or he is doing sappy songs like "Lost children", he wasn't even that sappy at 11 yrs old. Now and again you hear a little of the "Old" Michael; Stanger in Moscow, Butterflies, Break of Dawn. But more often than not his music alternate between disnified songs like Earth Song or shouting out songs like Scream...For these reasons alone he needs someone like Q in his corner.


The reason why he has been release so much shyt, is because nobody had the nerve to tell him it stunk. But then again, those songs that you speak of were not that bad. Will.I AM. as well as other producers will inject a new sound into his veins. Songs like Butterflies and Stranger in Moscow were done without Quincy's input, so that is not the problem. Michael just needs to put that tasks of topping Thriller behind him. That is more of the problem that anything else. Once he does that, he will be fine.
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Reply #39 posted 11/07/06 5:37pm

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HoneymoonXpress said:

I agree, thank GOD for Michael Jackson...he makes Prince look so much better in every way by comparison lol

i wouldn't go that far,
they're both multi musicians, cept P flaunts it, MJ doesn't, maybe because he sucks, but i'll never know,
the styles are completely diifferent thus they really arent in the same spectrum
i would think the two giants are equals with their advantages and disadvantages.
If Prince could give mj his properz
why can't his self righteous fans do the same
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