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Reply #30 posted 10/25/06 11:07pm

CHIC0

ok...so i'm currently listening to 20 Y.O. ( disbelief fuck Janet, couldn't you have picked a better title?) anyway..this album is really growing on me. i'm even enjoying "call on me". not a lead single but not a bad song either. this album or promotion should've never made a reference to "control". it should stand on it's own. i think it's tied with "all for you".

and "put your hands on", "all nite (don't stop)", & "r&b junkie" are what saved "damita jo" from being bottom on my list. nod
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Reply #31 posted 10/25/06 11:27pm

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Reply #32 posted 10/25/06 11:35pm

GangstaFam

I still haven't figured out why everyone hates "All For You" so much.
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Reply #33 posted 10/25/06 11:41pm

CinisterCee

GangstaFam said:

I still haven't figured out why everyone hates "All For You" so much.


What songs do you like on there? I like "China Love".... and... "All For You".
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Reply #34 posted 10/25/06 11:47pm

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CinisterCee said:

What songs do you like on there? I like "China Love".... and... "All For You".

Most of 'em really.
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Reply #35 posted 10/25/06 11:58pm

CinisterCee

GangstaFam said:

CinisterCee said:

What songs do you like on there? I like "China Love".... and... "All For You".

Most of 'em really.


It's a great Latoya album. nod
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Reply #36 posted 10/26/06 1:31am

CHIC0

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I still haven't figured out why everyone hates "All For You" so much.



probably all the interludes lol
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Reply #37 posted 10/26/06 1:38am

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badujunkie said:

VinnyM27 said:



But do we count "Put Your Hands On"...if so, why not include "Just Love Me"....I guess you can include them, but for me, it had too many weak songs. If edited, it probably trumps AFY.


Lets re-track Damita jo so it's a GREAT and not just a GOOD album

1. Looking For Love (intro)
2. Damita Jo
3. Sexhibition
4. Strawberry Bounce
5. Put Your Hands On
6. Island Life
7. All Nite (Don't Stop)
8. R&B Junkie
9. I Want You
10.Like You Don't Love Me
11.Could This Be Love?
12.Moist
13.Spending Time With You
14.Thinking Bout My Ex
15.Outro

THAT would be hot shit!


"Could This Be Love?" Is that yet another outake? I did this before and made DJ a hot album for me....That's kind of it's strengh and weakness...Everyone has their favorites (and least favorites).

Since I'm not sure where that list is, here is a new one.

Damita Jo

Looking For Love
Just A Little While
Damita Jo
Like You Don't Love Me
Moist
All Nite (Don't Stop)
Put Your Hands On
The One/Truly
Spending Time With You
I'm Here
Thinkin' About My Ex
Slo Love
Just Love Me


I feel like something is missing (and I have the CD in front of me, so it might be an outake but I really never cared for "Pops Up") and my original order was probably better but this will do.
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Reply #38 posted 10/26/06 1:38am

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I hate All For You as an album as a whole - about 3 songs are acceptable - because it's just so juvenile. Her image, the sound, the songs. Sounds like something a bunch of 14 year old girls made up for a giggle to try and be all sex-driven and grown up.
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Reply #39 posted 10/26/06 1:43am

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GangstaFam said:

I still haven't figured out why everyone hates "All For You" so much.


Me Neither! I think I jumped on that bandwagon because everyone was hating it, it's not big deal. I can understand my people expected more, though. The production is a bit samey (Rockwilder didn't add all that much). I like it's passion at times and even it's anger. It is a bit too lazy at times, though, with four sex songs in a row. It's also her most pop album. Britney Spears could've recorded it (in fact, she did a few months later with "Britney"). I think I liked this side of Janet, but it could've shown a whole lot more, I guess. I ranked it higher than "RN" because to me it still sounds fresh while everything on RN seems to predictable to me at times and for an album about the state of the world and education, it feels forced at times.
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Reply #40 posted 10/26/06 1:48am

MikeMatronik

The Velvet Rope
janet.
RN1914
20 YO
Damita Jo
Control
All fo you
shitty first 2 albums
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Reply #41 posted 10/26/06 2:09am

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Note the spaces:

1. Rhythm Nation 1814- by far her best, this is Janet's thesis statement.

2. All for You- a strong batch of fun, fresh songs after the doldrums of a painful relationship.
3. The Velvet Rope- Janet's personal statement.

4. Control- classic 80s production worthy of love.
5. 20 Y.O.- nothing groundbreaking, but solid and pleasantly short.
6. janet.- has a great album at its core, but there is a lot of fat that could have been trimmed.
7. Damita Jo- severely underrated and doomed project.

8. Janet Jackson- cute debut album with a few jams, this is definitely a throwaway.

9. Dream Street- stylistically and creatively barren.
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Reply #42 posted 10/26/06 2:13am

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Moonbeam said:

Note the spaces:

1. Rhythm Nation 1814- by far her best, this is Janet's thesis statement.

2. All for You- a strong batch of fun, fresh songs after the doldrums of a painful relationship.
3. The Velvet Rope- Janet's personal statement.

4. Control- classic 80s production worthy of love.
5. 20 Y.O.- nothing groundbreaking, but solid and pleasantly short.
6. janet.- has a great album at its core, but there is a lot of fat that could have been trimmed.
7. Damita Jo- severely underrated and doomed project.

8. Janet Jackson- cute debut album with a few jams, this is definitely a throwaway.

9. Dream Street- stylistically and creatively barren.


And I thought I over ranked "All For You"! Everyone has their opinion.
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Reply #43 posted 10/26/06 2:46am

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CinisterCee said:





highfive I don't care enough to rank anything after these four, but I agree wholeheartedly with you, Cin. nod
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Reply #44 posted 10/26/06 7:37am

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TonyVanDam said:

sextonseven said:



I would rank 'Janet Jackson' above 'Dream Street'. As much as I like 'Dream Street', how much did it do for Janet's career? Her first album put her on the map as another Jackson sibling with a recording career. The lack of success of her second album could be seen as a step backward at the time.

I would also rank 'All For You' higher since it yielded one of her biggest hits and kept her in the spotlight by selling modestly well.

The bottom two in terms of power would be 'Damita Jo' and 'Dream Street'. It's too early to tell yet where '20 Y.O.' should rank.


Too many slow cuts ruined All For You, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love a Janet Jackson slow jam! But the album didn't have an equal amount of dance tracks.


See now I interpreted power ranking as in order of significance as opposed to simply another best to worst list.
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Reply #45 posted 10/26/06 7:50am

Isel

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Who has Tina choreographed for lately? the last time I saw her she was on a Latino Arts program and danced the hell out of some number. That was like 3 years ago.


Tina has been very active. She choreographed for Ciara recently--along with Barry Lather, I think.

Also, Tina choreographed for the Pussycat Dolls.

"Pleasure Principle" choreographer Barry is omnipresent--in an under-the-radar at sort of way. He has choreographed for Usher, Mariah, Ciara.. everybody really. He serves more often than not as artistic director. He's choreographed for TV shows, figure skating, movies. The guy is everywhere.

On-topic, my favorite Janet cd is The Velvet Rope. Also, I would agree that DJ is underrated. I wouldn't say any of her cds are bad--some just appeal more to me than others. I would definitely say that All4You, DJ, and 20 Y.O. would be ranked on the bottom tier though, with RN, Control, Janet being among the top. They are all good, but in different ways. My least favorite are Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet.
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Reply #46 posted 10/26/06 7:52am

prettymansson

she sucks !!!!! zero musical skills !!!!! confused
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Reply #47 posted 10/26/06 8:09am

JackieBlue

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Isel said:

JackieBlue said:

Who has Tina choreographed for lately? the last time I saw her she was on a Latino Arts program and danced the hell out of some number. That was like 3 years ago.


Tina has been very active. She choreographed for Ciara recently--along with Barry Lather, I think.

Also, Tina choreographed for the Pussycat Dolls.

"Pleasure Principle" choreographer Barry is omnipresent--in an under-the-radar at sort of way. He has choreographed for Usher, Mariah, Ciara.. everybody really. He serves more often than not as artistic director. He's choreographed for TV shows, figure skating, movies. The guy is everywhere.

On-topic, my favorite Janet cd is The Velvet Rope. Also, I would agree that DJ is underrated. I wouldn't say any of her cds are bad--some just appeal more to me than others. I would definitely say that All4You, DJ, and 20 Y.O. would be ranked on the bottom tier though, with RN, Control, Janet being among the top. They are all good, but in different ways. My least favorite are Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet.
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Thanks Tina is definitely one of my favorite choreographers.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #48 posted 10/26/06 10:17am

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janet.
Rhythm Nation 1814
Control
20 Y.O.
The Velvet Rope
Damita Jo
All For You
Janet Jackson
Dream Street
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Reply #49 posted 10/26/06 11:13am

CinisterCee

AlexdeParis said:

CinisterCee said:





highfive I don't care enough to rank anything after these four, but I agree wholeheartedly with you, Cin. nod


highfive smile

I've never seen her in concert, and I was imagining, if I was to catch a show with mostly songs of each album, which album tracks would I most want to hear? That helped me decide the order.

I realized, I definitely hold certain album tracks in higher regard than others too, not just the singles.
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Reply #50 posted 10/26/06 11:32am

MendesCity

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Rhythm Nation 1814
Janet.
The Velvet Rope
All For You
Control
Damita Jo
20 Y.O.

Haven't heard these 2:
Janet Jackson
Dream Street
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Reply #51 posted 10/26/06 2:23pm

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CinisterCee said:

AlexdeParis said:


highfive I don't care enough to rank anything after these four, but I agree wholeheartedly with you, Cin. nod


highfive smile

I've never seen her in concert, and I was imagining, if I was to catch a show with mostly songs of each album, which album tracks would I most want to hear? That helped me decide the order.

I realized, I definitely hold certain album tracks in higher regard than others too, not just the singles.


eek

That SUCKS dude!

Don't you really want to see Got Til It's Gone, Go Deep, Get Lonely, Rope Burn, My Need, You, Free Xone? Not really, huh? razz
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #52 posted 10/26/06 2:57pm

CinisterCee

badujunkie said:

CinisterCee said:



highfive smile

I've never seen her in concert, and I was imagining, if I was to catch a show with mostly songs of each album, which album tracks would I most want to hear? That helped me decide the order.

I realized, I definitely hold certain album tracks in higher regard than others too, not just the singles.


eek

That SUCKS dude!

Don't you really want to see Got Til It's Gone, Go Deep, Get Lonely, Rope Burn, My Need, You, Free Xone? Not really, huh? razz


Relative to some RN1814, not really! razz
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Reply #53 posted 10/26/06 4:31pm

TonyVanDam

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CinisterCee said:







At least we agree on the first 4 ranks! biggrin
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Reply #54 posted 10/26/06 4:37pm

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sextonseven said:

TonyVanDam said:



Too many slow cuts ruined All For You, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love a Janet Jackson slow jam! But the album didn't have an equal amount of dance tracks.


See now I interpreted power ranking as in order of significance as opposed to simply another best to worst list.


I understand your reasons for ranking the albums that way. But if I needed to do the same, only RN1814 & Control would be mention because those 2 albums help change the game within studio production.

EDIT: ....and yes, most of the greatest hits are here too.
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Reply #55 posted 10/26/06 4:43pm

GangstaFam

Actually, I spoke too soon. I just realized I don't care.
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Reply #56 posted 10/26/06 5:52pm

CHIC0

GangstaFam said:

Actually, I spoke too soon. I just realized I don't care.


lol
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Reply #57 posted 10/26/06 5:57pm

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Axchi696 said:

I think Damita Jo is underrated.

I think there were 9 or 10 winners on the album:


Island Life
All Nite (Don't Stop)
R&B Junkie
I Want You
Like You Don't Love Me
Thinkin' About My Ex
Moist (yeah I like this one)
Slo Love
Just a Little While
Put Your Hands On

even Sexhibition and Strawberry Bounce were pretty far from terrible. If she'd cut out the pointless interludes, changed the album cover, released a different first single, and got rid of most of the lame midtempo junk, I think the album would've been received much better.


We have a winner here. $$$$ post. 3 times better than the current 20.y.o
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #58 posted 10/26/06 5:58pm

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GangstaFam said:

I still haven't figured out why everyone hates "All For You" so much.


I can't either. It is number 2 with me behind rhythmn nation 1814.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #59 posted 10/27/06 2:53am

CrozzaUK

1. Control - Still sounds fresh, love the production, love the songs - it makes me want to move more than any other Janet album.

2. The Velvet Rope - While it may not have loads of standout tracks, i find it one of the most enjoyable albums to play from start to finish. Id also like to give a shout out to a song no one ever mentions - "empty" - i love the detached isolated vibe to this track. I listened to this album for the whole of the tail end of 1997. Got till its gone is probably her coolest track to date.

3. Rhythm Nation 1814 - Has more standout stuff than TVR, and I dont think she's ever recorded a better pop song than Escapade, but i put it below because i dont think it flows as well. All the same, i can see why many label it as her best work - i think maybe i dont appreciate the industrial funk rock sound as much as some do.

4. Janet - there isnt much between these top four albums - all have great highs. I really dig this album because it went for a different approach to RN - more chilled out, and it was when she made sex sound sensual rather than just plain filth (anytime anyplace is one horny fucking track). That said there probably isnt as much quality as on the other top albums.

5. All for You - I dont think much of any of her last 3 albums, but this has at least 4 songs i think are good. Ive hated her image since this record, and this is definitely the point where standards slipped. That said, i think its probably slated unfairly as a result.

6. Damita Jo - Its not as bad as I first thought, but its still not good either. A efw tracks are interesting, and a little clever editing and she could have had a decent record, but she retreads far too much familiar territory. All Nite, Just A Little While are still great Janet singles though.

7. Janet Jackson - I only recently heard this and i quite liked it, in a kitsch 80's sort of way. Nothing too memorable on there, pretty bland in fct, but i prefer the kitsch 80's sound to the wannabe hip, no melody programmed beat based shit she churns out now.

8. 20 YO - Just such a disappointment. "Enjoy" actually teases us showing us she can still make great songs but she decides to put out an urban record of no substance or integrity. I absolutely hate the lyrics to most of this album ("Ill open my spot for you any time you want me to" .....YUK). Janet for fucks sake just make some great pop tunes, thats all we want from you.You can do it, just hole yourself up in a studio with Jam & lewis for 6 months.

9. Dream St - Its god awful ok. Cliff Richard is on here in the most bizarre duet ever. She sound like shes about 8 as well. Not good.

Has anyone noticed that all her bad albums have her smiling like a maniac on the cover. Her last three albums could have all come from the same shoot - sort of soft core cheap porn mag type stuff. The key to a good janet album is clearly to have her looking serious on the cover.
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