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A.E.S. & The art of smoking cigarettes? As many of you know this is one of the conventions I usually attend every year.
Generally i'll take a slew of photos but for some reason this year I just didn't feel like it. If you're interested in a rundown of the show, go here for podcasts... http://blog.mixonline.com.../podcasts/ ...which includes an interview with Geoff Emerick I believe. (of course I didn't find out about his book signing until it was over ) 
Saturday night is the TEC (Technical Excellence & Creativity) Awards dinner. These things can be extremely boring or very hip. This one was a little of both. The only awards that really caught my attention were the ones for... RECORD PRODUCTION/ALBUM Morph The Cat, Donald Fagen, Reprise Records Recording Engineer: Elliot Scheiner, Brian Montgomery, T. J. Doherty Mixing Engineer: Elliot Scheiner Producer: Donald Fagen Mastering Engineer: Darcy Proper Mixing Facility: Avatar Studios, NYC Mastering Facility: Sony Mastering, NYC Recording Studios: Avatar Studios, Clinton Recording Studios, Sear Sound, NYC, Sugar Sound, Kauai, HI and Television Sound Production 24, Fox Supervising Sound Editor: William Dotson Re-recording Mixers: Michael Olman, C.A.S., Kenneth Kobett, C.A.S. Production Mixer: Bill Gocke Audio Post Facilities: Universal Studios, Universal City, CA, Wilshire Editorial, Inc., Burbank, CA ...If you're interested in the other award winners - http://mixfoundation.org/...nners.html Just as I was about to fall asleep face forward into the chocolate mousse they brought up Billy Gibbons to present Steve Miller with this year's Les Paul Award. One bit of interesting information divulged during his acceptance speech, was the relationship he's had with Les Paul (the individual) since he was a child. There's a conversation between Les Paul and a 5 year old Steve Miller included on the Steve Miller Band box set. I've been aware of Steve Miller since the 1st 3 Steve Miller Band albums...   
...which were staples of 60s free-form FM radio. At varying times, the band included Boz Scaggs & Ben Sidran, 2 artists that would go on to have solo careers of their own. The band's sound was a mixture of Hendrix flavored psychedelic Blues and a Miller's own Pop sensibilities that would come to the fore on the 70s albums...   
...The Joker, Fly Like An Eagle & *Book of Dreams *A note for Beatle/McCartney fans. There's a collab on the Brave New World album (My Dark Hour) between Miller and one "Paul Ramon" (Paul McCartney). This tune includes the guitar hook heard years later in the intro of Fly Like an Eagle. Stax might want to add some commentary about the composer of Jet Airliner, Paul Pena. (After I got back to L.A. and looked this guy up, I realized i'd done some research on Paul Pena and chased down some recordings for a friend not long ago.) Since the recipient actually gets a Les Paul guitar, some of the audience started yelling, "Play it Steve." He replied that once he got it tuned up he'd come back and play. A few awards later, emcee Will Lee announced that Steve Miller was indeed coming up to play a few songs. After doing Fly Like An Eagle (not using the new Les Paul I might add), he called up... 
...Billy Gibbons to jam some blues. (notice that Steve Miller is not playing the Les Paul) Sounded good but looked a little weird. Billy was Billy, playing a rhinestone encrusted Tele style guitar. But the suit and glasses made Steve look like Congressman Miller. To get a feel for what these shows are about, go here: http://www.broadjam.com/videoreviews/ From the headings on the left of the page, select Broadjam TV. Finally, click on selection 7 - The TEC Awards. What you'll find here are clips from what appear to be last year's show. Oh yeah, the cigarette thing... 
On my way down the escalator for a cigarette break during the show, I noticed *Elliot Scheiner in front of me. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *Primarily known as either mixer/engineer/producer on Steely Dan records since Royal Scam and Donald Fagen solo albums The Nightfly and Morph the Cat) Grammy Awards: Aja - Best Engineered Recording, Non Classical - 1977 Gaucho - Best Engineered Recording, Non Classical - 1981 Two Against Nature - Album Of The Year, Best Engineered Recording, Non Classical, Best Pop Vocal Album - 2000 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Because of the award he'd just won, I had a built in entree by congratulating him on the win and hoping he has the same success during the next Grammy awards. He was very gracious and commented that he didn't think they'd win a Grammy. Once outside in the hotel's designated smoking zone, thanks to acquaintance and all around fun guy John Nowland (mixer for and associated with Neil Young since the Buffalo Springfield days) I was reintroduced to Elliot Scheiner and another industry legend, *Ed Cherney. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *Engineer/Mixing for... Bonnie Raitt Ohio Players Barbra Streisand Iggy Pop The B-52's Michael McDonald Elton John Neil Diamond Bob Dylan Bill Withers Randy Newman The Rolling Stones Buddy Guy Quincy Jones Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Keb' Mo' Etta James Grammy Award - A Longing in Their Hearts (Bonnie Raitt) - Best Engineered Recording, Non Classical - 1994 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In non-cigarette related news, I was also able to reconnect (along with heartbeatocean) with the Grammy nominated Director of Music and Scoring for Skywalker Sound, Leslie Ann Jones. She's done Jazz recordings (Michael Feinstein, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock), Vocal recordings (Rosemary Clooney, Bobby McFerrin, DeeDee Bridgewater) and R&B (Maze, ConFunkShun, The Whispers). Btw, her dad is probably the king of musical parody, Spike Jones. The current issue of Mix magazine includes Leslie in it's Bay Area Legends photo essay.. 
...along with various AES-SF articles and a feature on Steve Miller. Most impressive in the Steve Miller article was his close attention to the "business" side of The Business early on his career. One final surprise for the closing of the show. Will Lee announced that the band would be going out with Wilson Pickett's R&B classic Midnight Hour. But he wanted to get a special friend to come up and play drums. The special friend turned out to be none other than Narada Michael Walden. On that note, it's time to shut up. 
p.s. - Also had a great time hanging with some of the NoCal Org contingent... 
...http://www.prince.org/msg/2/204204 tA  Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 [Edited 10/16/06 7:47am] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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I have an idea:
I fall asleep tonight and wake up as you...and I get to do all the cool interesting stuff you get to do - and it is called work. 
You fall asleep tonight and wake up as me...and you get to go to Poland to tour a battery manufacturing plant - and it is called work. 
Seriously, sounds like it was awesome, my friend.....I hope you wake up every day and count your blessings. As usual, very interesting stuff.  "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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 That's pretty Kool! I know it's probaly old hat to ya by now, But It still sounds amazing to me, Lol!
BTW, I know we touched on this before, but given these professionals' audio expertise, what's the general consensus about so many music buyers shifting to mp3 downloads? It's funny, but sometimes it seems like the only place music fans are talking about Lossless audio is on torrent sites (or so I'm told, )...
... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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cubic61052 said: I have an idea:
I fall asleep tonight and wake up as you...and I get to do all the cool interesting stuff you get to do - and it is called work.
You fall asleep tonight and wake up as me...and you get to go to Poland to tour a battery manufacturing plant - and it is called work.
 Aaaaaah...no! 
 I leave out all the run-of-the-mill pedestrian stuff  so that it sounds better than it is. 
tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: I have an idea:
I fall asleep tonight and wake up as you...and I get to do all the cool interesting stuff you get to do - and it is called work.
You fall asleep tonight and wake up as me...and you get to go to Poland to tour a battery manufacturing plant - and it is called work.
Aaaaaah...no!
I leave out all the run-of-the-mill pedestrian stuff so that it sounds better than it is.
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Yeah....I have worked shows before and they can be rather boring at times and definitely tiring (standing around can be killer on the feet). At least if you woke up as me you would be pretty.... 
....maybe more feminine than you care for, but..... 
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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Hey.
I was there for Glyph. "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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paligap said: BTW, I know we touched on this before, but given these professionals' audio expertise, what's the general consensus about so many music buyers shifting to mp3 downloads?
It's funny, but sometimes it seems like the only place music fans are talking about Lossless audio is on torrent sites (or so I'm told, )...
... A very good question. Although this has never come up in conversation, based on the equipment/tools they're interested in, the recording process is still viewed as an art form. That being the case, they're going to go for the highest quality recordings possible. What form people convert them to afterwards, is something that's out of their control anyway. There are folks that will always appreciate the quality of hi-res audio over the convenience of lower-res audio. And a larger number that will deal with both depending on their situation. tA Tribal Disorder
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Giovanni777 said: Hey.
I was there for Glyph. Excellent. Are you there for other shows like NAMM or NAB? tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: paligap said: BTW, I know we touched on this before, but given these professionals' audio expertise, what's the general consensus about so many music buyers shifting to mp3 downloads?
It's funny, but sometimes it seems like the only place music fans are talking about Lossless audio is on torrent sites (or so I'm told, )...
... A very good question. Although this has never come up in conversation, based on the equipment/tools they're interested in, the recording process is still viewed as an art form. That being the case, they're going to go for the highest quality recordings possible. What form people convert them to afterwards, is something that's out of their control anyway. There are folks that will always appreciate the quality of hi-res audio over the convenience of lower-res audio. And a larger number that will deal with both depending on their situation. Do you get the sense that your average person with a regular sound system notices the difference? That's something I've always wondered about.... ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: Do you get the sense that your average person with a regular sound system notices the difference? That's something I've always wondered about.... ... I tease Kenji about this all the time as he's a big MP3 fan. He does realize the difference in quality but is willing to sacrifice to have 10 gazillion tunes in his iPod.
My guess is that the average listener could care less. 
As long as they hear some kind of sound they're happy. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Giovanni777 said: Hey.
I was there for Glyph. Excellent. Are you there for other shows like NAMM or NAB? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Interesting... Are you a regular at NAB? Though I'm located in Germany, every now & then I'm there (Media Asset Management software & services for broadcast). Of course, the IBC at Amsterdam is much more comfortable for me... 
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Sorry I had to miss this. It was a really busy time right before my trip. But I'm glad we got a chance to hook up.
Next time. My Legacy
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theAudience said: Stax might want to add some commentary about the composer of Jet Airliner, Paul Pena. (After I got back to L.A. and looked this guy up, I realized i'd done some research on Paul Pena and chased down some recordings for a friend not long ago.) Paul Pena! 
I first learned of Paul through an NPR story when his 1973 album New Train was finally released in 2000. Produced by Steve Miller Band keyboardist Ben Sidran, New Train is an excellent classic rock album that you aren't sick of listening to. A few tracks feature Jerry Garcia (getting pretty bluesy for Jerry) and the awesome keyboardist Merle Saunders. New Train also features the original version of Jet Airliner, which was later recorded by Steve Miller. Paul Pena also played bass on Bonnie Raitt's debut album, if I recall correctly. Later in life, Paul Pena became a practitioner of Tuvan throat-singing and was the subject of the Sundance award winning Genghis Blues, which documented his trip to Tuva (Russia/Mongolia) to participate in a throat-singing festival. 
Pena died from diabetes in San Francisco last year. New Train is great album and I highly recommend it to all fans of classic rock. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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I first heard of him when he died. My Legacy
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Stax said: New Train is great album and I highly recommend it to all fans of classic rock.
...Thanks for the input.
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NDRU said: Sorry I had to miss this. It was a really busy time right before my trip. But I'm glad we got a chance to hook up.
Next time. Yes. Glad you made the swingin' soiree.
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wsenges said: Interesting... Are you a regular at NAB? Though I'm located in Germany, every now & then I'm there (Media Asset Management software & services for broadcast). Of course, the IBC at Amsterdam is much more comfortable for me...
Wolf Generally. I love to do Musikmesse one day.
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theAudience said: Stax said: New Train is great album and I highly recommend it to all fans of classic rock.
...Thanks for the input.
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 happy to add my  You should check out the track "Cosmic Mirror" on New Train. It is clear that from that song that, like everybody else, Pena was heavily influenced by Hendrix at that time.a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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Stax said: happy to add my
You should check out the track "Cosmic Mirror" on New Train. It is clear that from that song that, like everybody else, Pena was heavily influenced by Hendrix at that time.Checked it out along with the original Jet Airliner yesterday. Very cool. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Stax said: happy to add my
You should check out the track "Cosmic Mirror" on New Train. It is clear that from that song that, like everybody else, Pena was heavily influenced by Hendrix at that time.Checked it out along with the original Jet Airliner yesterday. Very cool. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: In non-cigarette related news, I was also able to reconnect (along with heartbeatocean) with the Grammy nominated Director of Music and Scoring for Skywalker Sound, Leslie Ann Jones. She's done Jazz recordings (Michael Feinstein, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock), Vocal recordings (Rosemary Clooney, Bobby McFerrin, DeeDee Bridgewater) and R&B (Maze, ConFunkShun, The Whispers). Btw, her dad is probably the king of musical parody, Spike Jones. It was a blast running into Leslie at the show, with a quick, "Hey, I know you!" It felt so comfortable. I was almost thinking of shooting her an email (I've done it before!  ) And it was even more fun to see Leslie across the way, with you three feet behind her, flapping your wings like bird. 
On an aside, she agreed to engineer the Punk Rock Orchestra album Weapons of Mass Deconstruction mentioning that nothing would be a better homage to her father than that. Isn't that coolest? | |
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Stax said: theAudience said: Stax might want to add some commentary about the composer of Jet Airliner, Paul Pena. (After I got back to L.A. and looked this guy up, I realized i'd done some research on Paul Pena and chased down some recordings for a friend not long ago.) Paul Pena!
I first learned of Paul through an NPR story when his 1973 album New Train was finally released in 2000. Produced by Steve Miller Band keyboardist Ben Sidran, New Train is an excellent classic rock album that you aren't sick of listening to. A few tracks feature Jerry Garcia (getting pretty bluesy for Jerry) and the awesome keyboardist Merle Saunders. New Train also features the original version of Jet Airliner, which was later recorded by Steve Miller. Paul Pena also played bass on Bonnie Raitt's debut album, if I recall correctly. Later in life, Paul Pena became a practitioner of Tuvan throat-singing and was the subject of the Sundance award winning Genghis Blues, which documented his trip to Tuva (Russia/Mongolia) to participate in a throat-singing festival.
Pena died from diabetes in San Francisco last year. New Train is great album and I highly recommend it to all fans of classic rock. Oh, I know that guy. I saw Ghenghis Blues and met the director of that movie, Adrian Belic, a few months ago -- a really fascinating guy with a handlebar mustache who makes all his movies in his garage with his brother. So that's twice I've namedropped in the same thread. oh lordy | |
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heartbeatocean said: Oh, I know that guy. I saw Ghenghis Blues and met the director of that movie, Adrian Belic, a few months ago -- a really fascinating guy with a handlebar mustache who makes all his movies in his garage with his brother. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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theAudience said: Giovanni777 said: Hey.
I was there for Glyph. Excellent. Are you there for other shows like NAMM or NAB? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 We don't do NAB, but most definately do the NAMM show. I'll be at the NAMM show. "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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Giovanni777 said: We don't do NAB, but most definately do the NAMM show. I'll be at the NAMM show. Excellent. We'll hook up in January for sure.
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theAudience said: Giovanni777 said: We don't do NAB, but most definately do the NAMM show. I'll be at the NAMM show. Excellent. We'll hook up in January for sure.
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