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shortstuff45220 said:

you know what, you're right, and silly me, Trust A Try is actually my favorite performance from AFY.

I never liked Janet's live voice, but because everything else is going on that's good (the dancing and the costumes), I don't mind,

HOWEVER!!!!

if Prince is killing me softly with a wicked guitar solo, I sure as hell don't want her voice to fuck it up.
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wonder505 said:

Tessa! Give it a listen first.

CinisterCee said:

yeah... its kinda bitter and sour to call something sh*t without listening to it...reminds me of a banned orger...



nevermind...

CynicKill said:

She needs a new label, a new label/deal where she is a new artist and gets the push she needs

twink69 said:

how much more push can u give her?

she's janet fuckin' jackson. if the name alone can't give her the necessary push, nothing can.

sallysassalot said:

exactly sassybwoy

I've been saying this for years: Janet simply needs to EVOLVE as an artist.She is still stuck in 1993,playing the whole "sex kitten" role and I think that people are tired of it.In the past few months,I have seen her on the cover of numerous magazines,half-naked with her hands over her boobs.Don't get me wrong,she's sexy as hell but in the end,you have to wonder: is this all she has to offer? At 40 years old ,is this the only message she wants to send? After the whole Superbowl fiasco,she should now be trying to change the subject and show the world that she is a serious,credible artist with something to say.Instead,she made yet another sex-themed R&B album,which is already tumbling down the charts.Her career is far from over,but it would be nice to see her branch out,re-invent herself and try something new for a change.


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sosgemini said:

as i said, i've heard the first 2 singles, and i'm not very impressed. nor was i impressed when i tried to listen to some of the album tracks. what more do you want? me to sit through an album i'm clearly not interested in just so i can confirm for myself that i don't like it much? i already know that at this point. i'm not a masochist.

ABeautifulOne said:

They should rush-release "Enjoy" as a single.That songs seems to be a fan favorite.

It's the public's loss.

sosgemini said:

Come here...

Moonbeam said:

Yep

that´s kind of a shame, I am liking this cd
more and more with each listen.

I'm loving 20 YO...it's a great album! Fun, relaxing album! Shame people have so much prejudice towards music and can't open their minds to fun pop. As moombeam, it's their loss. 20 YO will gain a cult following.

CinisterCee said:

The promotion of the album was a disaster...let's face. The album bombed because of the first single...nowdays slow songs don't do as 1st singles! That was in the 80's where Madonna could release a ballad like Live to tell and be number 1

They tried 2 make Call on me the new We belong together...great mistake!

at least part of the blame must go to Jermaine Dupri.He was behind much of the marketing for this album.He tried to make Janet an "urban" artist,when in the past,she was always more pop.Big mistake.

SoulAlive said:

I agree with 100%...that alienated janet's white fans

MikeMatronik said:

well...it alienated her "pop" fans,regadless of their color

wonder505 said:

I agree,the marketing behind this CD wasn't very effective.Janet did several interviews,but rarely ever discussed the actual music! It seems as if the focus was only on her body,and all the weight she lost.

badujunkie said:

I'll tell you the answer. It's because Janet Jackson and her new album are shit. Do I win a prize?

badujunkie said:

Don't say I didn't tell you. The album's crap, no crossover single, JD .... a lot of things not going in is favour.

CynicKill said:

That's a little harsh,isn't it?

I don't think she should retire.She just needs to evolve as an artist.Go in another whole direction.Re-invent herself.She needs a fresh new sound and style.Last year,the best song on the radio was Gorillaz "Feels Good Inc".Janet should call up those guys and ask for a groove like that...something fresh and edgy! She needs to ditch Jermaine Dupri and Jam and Lewis.That sound is played out.Today's R&B is artistically dead,there's nowhere else to go with that music.

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

This was because she knew the album was shit.

SoulAlive said:

Gorillaz only work with good singers, or people with distinctive voices (i.e: Dennis Hopper). She needs to get proactive and sack her team and maybe go and work with some European dancemeisters, like Madonna did and Kelis has done. Not that she will, of course. JD will just blame Def Jam, racism, tittygate, George Bush and Tony Blair - in short everyone and everything but himself. And his girlfriend. Janet seems like a puppet now.

Shapeshifter said:

I wasn't gonna mention the "M" word,but yeah,you are right

Madonna wisely stays away from boring American producers.She opts for more edgier,more interesting sounds.And she's not afraid to switch producers and try new sounds.Janet seems to have forgotten that many of her fans are into fast dance music.They don't wanna hear midtempo R&B songs that could just as easily have been recorded by Ciara or Ashanti.

"Gorillaz only work with good singers,or people with distinctive voices"

Perhaps,but I doubt that they would turn down a major artist like Janet Jackson.She need to get out of her R&B comfort zone.

SoulAlive said:

Oh how VoicesCarry would be right on your back if he were here

Anyways, it seems Janet likes to rely on the current man in her life to help her make hit music. I wasn't even aware of Rene's involvement in her past projects until reading stuff here. So unless she's dating an edgy European producer, i don't see her ever going in that direction.

What i think is that Janet should go on extended vacation, come back in 5 years and blow us away. The 2 year between albums is bringing back memories of SuperBowl and the controversy behind it...not that she's helping things be appearing half nude on all those magazine covers.
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