Alright, I love the album, love Janet, but lets be real here.

The record sold almost 100k less than Damita Jo. Damita Jo has only sold about 950k in 2 and 1/2 years.

Flop album Damita Jo = no tour.

Do you all think she can still sell out an arena? I mean with all the promo that started MONTHS before the album came out, a fucking OPRAH appearance, a Today Show Concert, and her hot body on the cover of countless magazines since June...I don't know, I thought she would have #1 in the bag, and sell at LEAST what DJ did in its first week, likely more. But I'm worried this album will drop hard core. "So Excited" only cracked the BB100 this week (finally) at number 90. "Call on Me" is out of the Top 40. MTV ain't playing her on TRL or pushing her videos in between reality shows like they did with Justin, Xtina, etc. No major appearances coming up...

I was REALLY hoping for a hot tour this era! But what promoters from venues will take her on with Tittygate still lingering in the air, no support from MTV, little support from radio, and a flop album?

What do you all think?

Didn't she do more for Damita Jo? Saturday Night Live and Will & Grace must have been big pushes.

badujunkie said:

I don't think she'll tour if the album stiffs. Definitely not a world tour at any rate, because no one outside the US bought her album. Plus, if it's her last album for Virgin and they're not going to sign her up again, why bother going to all that effort when she can sit at home with JD and eat MacDonalds.

Ellie said:

Yeah, BIG pushes .... off the edge of a cliff.

I wondered about this too. Honestly, outside of the Org or other music related sites/discussions I haven’t heard that much talk about Janet’s music or tour just about her appearance. I know some people, even if they don’t buy the album would dare miss a Janet concert.

I wouldn't mind seeing her do SNL again. 'Cork suckers' is one of their more memorable skits in recent years. Ludacris is hosting and performing on SNL. Why can't she do the same?

Seeing as labels make no money from a tour it shouldn't matter they are dropping her.

Madonna toured after American Life even though it failed sold only a million copies in the US.

She sold out every stop of the tour. Prince toured when his albums weren't hits and sold out.

it would be a great way for her make money and show she is still relevant.

i think she will.

mariah did with "charmbracelet"

i think she didn't tour with DJ because it was doomed from the beginning, no one would play her on radio so she had no chance.

"call on me" was a modest hit and "SEX" is slowly climbing. She needs to tour ASAP in Europe and Australia to help album sales.

Shapeshifter said:

Why wouldn't she tour? She can still make a huge sum of money, plus she still has a dedicated fanbase that would love to see her perform live. I saw her on the "All For You" tour in 2001, and she kicked major ass. Paul McCartney and the Rolling Stones both released albums last year that didn't exactly storm up the Billboard charts, yet their tours still sold out stadiums. There still is a demand for great live performers.

By the logic you listed, then Cassie needs to hit the road and plan a major world tour immediately. We all know how she does in a live show, don't we?

I dunno if Michael had anything to do with her not touring for DJ or not, but it might have. She probably wanted to be close in 04-05.

badujunkie said:

a flop album has never stop Prince or Madonna for that matter

banks said:

But they are bigger superstars in the mainstream public's eye than Janet...same with the Stones, Clapton, Aerosmith...

badujunkie said:

Considering that THIS next tour will be Janet's last (especially if JD wants to have kids with this woman real soon), I think she'll do it.

Janet needs to focus on movies. She's a far better actress than she is a music artist.

Janet will be fine and I believe she will tour. Although the album came in at #2 pop, I think JD and Virgin are focusing on long-term sales. She still had a #1 debut on the R&B album charts. I see them issuing the 20 YO re-release before the tour starts.

ThreadBare said:

fuuuuuc

don't jinx da tour

Man! If albums don't sell a half a million in the first week
it's chalked up as a lost cause these days

I think she'll tour and issue an album re-release with more songs

Hell Yes. Her fans are drones

she'll tour. its the only way she'll be able to show her next label that she's still a worthwhile deal.

So no one thinks she'll re-sign with Virgin?

JackieBlue said:

i'd be very, very surprised to see them show interest in re-signing. and if i were janet, i'd be interested in a new label. they haven't supported her the way they should after making a ton of cash on her. but, alas, that is the nature of the beast.

if you can't play the game like madonna, you're gonna get eaten up and spit out.

sallysassalot said:

Remember that this is the same label that signed Mariah Carey to a $100 million contract prior to the release of Glitter and then bought out her contract for $30 million just to make her to go away. They made a fortune off Janet over the years, but in this music buisness environment, they are not going to be offering Janet another $80 million contract. If anything, they are going to make a nominal offer (if any) that will be a lowball amount just to say that they attempted to re-sign her.

i'm curious to know who'll back/promote the tour. maybe the makers of the WonderBra? Janet Jackson is brings in quite a lot of money when she tours. the Oprah Winfrey interview may have helped, but i think a bigger and more diverse audience would watch a Primetime or 20/20 like interview; which may garner more sales and publicity for the album/tour. and screw the shy demure shit, Janet! do an interview and speak your mind on it.

728huey said:

absolutely. they are done with janet. they'll make their money from a greatest hits package and the couple cds that did well on their label.

these days, its in the record label's best interest to get one hit record and then let the rest flop. this way the artist fails to make the necessary sales requirement for the label to live up to their end of the contract. the artist ends up owing the label some cash AND the label continues to make money off that particular artist's big hit.

CHIC0 said:

when janet markets to the proper demographic...that is, those who are actually interested in her...we will see a comeback. if she doesn't wake up and the smell the fading estrogen, she if never gonna get it together.
[Edited 10/5/06 18:39pm]

sallysassalot said:

dance pop called and they want their Janet back

sallysassalot said:

exactly. i think the majority of Oprah viewers (on a regular basis) are perhaps the very same people that were offended by the Superbowl performance.

ehuffnsd said:

i don't even mean that, necessarily. i mean young kids are not interested in a 40 year old taking her clothes off and singing about sex...they're interested in jessica simpson or beyonce taking their clothes off and singing about sex. on the flip side, janet's longtime audience aren't interested in hearing her sing about sex (constantly) because we've all grown up and that has lost its appeal as a core subject.

she's isolated herself from her longtime casual listeners in hopes of gaining a new generation of listeners who, sadly, just don't care. now she's only got her hardcore following buying her records. anyone with a few cells in their brain can see she needs a professional readjustment. and a wake up call.

I think the demographics of Oprah viewers are a lot larger than people think. It's so much more than the studio audience that tune in especially when there's a big name on. Maybe 12 year olds aren't tuning in but I've definitely heard young people and people I'd never suspect talk about her shows--maybe more female than males but the guys usually get their girlfriends and sisters to TiVo it or watch when no one's around.

I recall some nighttime interview she did and it was hella boring. Something like the Academy Awards Barbara Walters Special. I find most of her interviews dull and not very intriguing no matter the show. She doesn't seem to have much to talk about anyway so if it's just to perform then she should go on David Letterman and not do that faux flirting thing and just sing or go on SNL again. Has she ever done Ellen?

sallysassalot said:

This is what I keep hearing and reading like everywhere even before the album dropped. You know something's amiss when people are tired of hearing about the sex.

sallysassalot said:

Janet's core audience is white and black women in their 20s-30s and homosexuals. Regardless of what JD what's to think. They are the people running out and buying her records. Most of them aren't interseted in hiphop crap that's coming out of his production. she needs to make those fans she had that lost interest in her after she took the hiphop influence pop after All For You.

Why do you think Kylie and Madonna returned to dance music?