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Reply #90 posted 09/16/06 5:34pm

vainandy

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dseann said:

namepeace said:



Now, let's not mythologize the cat. He was not a "fallen soldier." Malcolm X was a fallen soldier. Martin Luther King was a fallen soldier. Medgar Evers was a fallen soldier. Tupac Shakur is a tragic loss for all of the reasons you so eloquently stated.

[Edited 9/15/06 7:11am]

I am in total agreement with you.

Malik was assasinated because of trying to bring black people together. King died because of trying to bring black people together. The same with Mr. Evers.
Please don't put Tupac in the same catagory with these people. Tupac died in after he and his "peeps" kicked a black mans ass in a hotel lobby.

That's no hero's death. Don't get it twisted.
[Edited 9/15/06 7:14am]


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Reply #91 posted 09/16/06 7:53pm

missmad

his record "Changes" is on constant rotation



relevance and beauty
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Reply #92 posted 09/16/06 8:05pm

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missmad said:

his record "Changes" is on constant rotation



relevance and beauty



Changes is one of my favorites too!
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Reply #93 posted 09/16/06 8:39pm

TonyVanDam

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missmad said:

his record "Changes" is on constant rotation



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Even some people that hated rap from day one loves Changes.
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Reply #94 posted 09/17/06 8:25am

dseann

TonyVanDam said:

missmad said:

his record "Changes" is on constant rotation



relevance and beauty


Even some people that hated rap from day one loves Changes.


Bruce Hornsby's beautiful keyboards to a more modern beat, that's easy to love isn't it?

He did predict his death in this song the way it happened though.

"I have to worry about the payback, some nigga that I roughed up way back,
Comming back after all these years, rat a tat tat tat tat, that's just the way it is"
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Reply #95 posted 09/17/06 10:23am

TonyVanDam

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dseann said:

TonyVanDam said:



Even some people that hated rap from day one loves Changes.


Bruce Hornsby's beautiful keyboards to a more modern beat, that's easy to love isn't it?

He did predict his death in this song the way it happened though.


"I have to worry about the payback, some nigga that I roughed up way back,
Comming back after all these years, rat a tat tat tat tat, that's just the way it is"


And I'm a big fan of the Bruce Hornsby's original! His kids are going to college off those royalities alone, all thanks to 'Pac.

The last verse ends this song on a dark note. And we were too damn business dancing to this track at the clubs to notice!
eek biggrin
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Reply #96 posted 09/17/06 4:13pm

dreamfactory31
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This is one of my alltime favorite Tupac songs. When I read the lyrics, my eyes swell with tears. The words are so beautiful. I can especially relate because I was raised by a single mother. God bless all of the single mothers (and fathers) everywhere.


Dear Mama

When I was young, me and my mama had beef
17 years old kicked out on tha streets
though back in tha time, I never thought I'd see her face
ain't a woman alive that can take my momma's place
suspended from school, scared ta go home
I was a fool with tha big boys breaking all tha rules
shed tears with my baby sister
over tha years we wuz poorer than tha other little kids
and even though we had different daddies
tha same drama when things went wrong we blamed mama
I reminised on tha stress I caused, it wuz hell
hugg'en on my mama from a jail cell
and who'ed think in elementary, heeeey i'd see tha penitentiary
One day
running from tha Police, that's right
Momma catch me--put a whoop'en to my backside
and even as a crack fiend mama,
ya always was a black queen mama
I finally understand for a woman
it ain't easy--trying ta raise a man
ya always wuz commited, a poor single mother on welfare,
tell me how ya did it
there's no way I can pay ya back
but tha plan is ta show ya that I understand.
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

Ain't nobody tell us it wuz fair
no luv for my daddy, cause tha coward wuzn't there
he passed away and I didn't cry
cause my anger, wouldn't let me feel for a stranger
they say i'm wrong and i'm heartless
but all along I wuz looking for a father--he wuz gone
I hung around with tha thug's and even though they sold drugs
they showed a young brother luv
I moved out and started really hang'in
I needed money of my own so I started slang'in
I ain't guilty cause, even though I sell rocks
It feels good, putting money in your mailbox
I love paying rent when tha rents due
I hope ya got tha diamond necklace that I sent to you
cause when I wuz low, you was there for me
ya never left me alone, cause ya cared for me
and I can see ya coming home after work late
ya in tha kitchen trying ta fix us a hot plate
just working with tha scraps you wuz given
and mama made miracles every Thanksgiving
but now tha road got rough, your alone
trying ta raise two bad kids on your own
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

pour out some liquor and I remenise
cause through tha drama, I can always depend on my mama
and when it seems that i'm hopeless
you say tha words that can get me back in focus
when I wuz sick as a little kid
ta keep me happy theres no limit to tha things ya did
and all my childhood memories
are full of all tha sweet things ya did for me
and even though I act craaaazy
I got ta thank tha Lord that ya maaaade me
There are no words that can express how I feel
Ya never kept a secret, always stayed real
and I appreciate how ya raised me
and all tha extra love that ya gave me
I wish I could take tha pain away
If you can make it through tha night, there's a brighter day
everything'll be alright if ya hold on
it's a struggle
everyday gotta roll on
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



cry
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Reply #97 posted 09/17/06 7:28pm

TonyVanDam

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dreamfactory313 said:

This is one of my alltime favorite Tupac songs. When I read the lyrics, my eyes swell with tears. The words are so beautiful. I can especially relate because I was raised by a single mother. God bless all of the single mothers (and fathers) everywhere.


Dear Mama

When I was young, me and my mama had beef
17 years old kicked out on tha streets
though back in tha time, I never thought I'd see her face
ain't a woman alive that can take my momma's place
suspended from school, scared ta go home
I was a fool with tha big boys breaking all tha rules
shed tears with my baby sister
over tha years we wuz poorer than tha other little kids
and even though we had different daddies
tha same drama when things went wrong we blamed mama
I reminised on tha stress I caused, it wuz hell
hugg'en on my mama from a jail cell
and who'ed think in elementary, heeeey i'd see tha penitentiary
One day
running from tha Police, that's right
Momma catch me--put a whoop'en to my backside
and even as a crack fiend mama,
ya always was a black queen mama
I finally understand for a woman
it ain't easy--trying ta raise a man
ya always wuz commited, a poor single mother on welfare,
tell me how ya did it
there's no way I can pay ya back
but tha plan is ta show ya that I understand.
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

Ain't nobody tell us it wuz fair
no luv for my daddy, cause tha coward wuzn't there
he passed away and I didn't cry
cause my anger, wouldn't let me feel for a stranger
they say i'm wrong and i'm heartless
but all along I wuz looking for a father--he wuz gone
I hung around with tha thug's and even though they sold drugs
they showed a young brother luv
I moved out and started really hang'in
I needed money of my own so I started slang'in
I ain't guilty cause, even though I sell rocks
It feels good, putting money in your mailbox
I love paying rent when tha rents due
I hope ya got tha diamond necklace that I sent to you
cause when I wuz low, you was there for me
ya never left me alone, cause ya cared for me
and I can see ya coming home after work late
ya in tha kitchen trying ta fix us a hot plate
just working with tha scraps you wuz given
and mama made miracles every Thanksgiving
but now tha road got rough, your alone
trying ta raise two bad kids on your own
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

pour out some liquor and I remenise
cause through tha drama, I can always depend on my mama
and when it seems that i'm hopeless
you say tha words that can get me back in focus
when I wuz sick as a little kid
ta keep me happy theres no limit to tha things ya did
and all my childhood memories
are full of all tha sweet things ya did for me
and even though I act craaaazy
I got ta thank tha Lord that ya maaaade me
There are no words that can express how I feel
Ya never kept a secret, always stayed real
and I appreciate how ya raised me
and all tha extra love that ya gave me
I wish I could take tha pain away
If you can make it through tha night, there's a brighter day
everything'll be alright if ya hold on
it's a struggle
everyday gotta roll on
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



cry



Brenda's Got A Baby was a tear jerker in itself.
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Reply #98 posted 09/18/06 7:03am

dseann

TonyVanDam said:

dseann said:



Bruce Hornsby's beautiful keyboards to a more modern beat, that's easy to love isn't it?

He did predict his death in this song the way it happened though.


"I have to worry about the payback, some nigga that I roughed up way back,
Comming back after all these years, rat a tat tat tat tat, that's just the way it is"


And I'm a big fan of the Bruce Hornsby's original! His kids are going to college off those royalities alone, all thanks to 'Pac.

The last verse ends this song on a dark note. And we were too damn business dancing to this track at the clubs to notice!
eek biggrin


Both are beautiful songs. Will agree with you on everything.

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Reply #99 posted 09/19/06 7:34am

Stymie

TonyVanDam said:

dreamfactory313 said:

This is one of my alltime favorite Tupac songs. When I read the lyrics, my eyes swell with tears. The words are so beautiful. I can especially relate because I was raised by a single mother. God bless all of the single mothers (and fathers) everywhere.


Dear Mama

When I was young, me and my mama had beef
17 years old kicked out on tha streets
though back in tha time, I never thought I'd see her face
ain't a woman alive that can take my momma's place
suspended from school, scared ta go home
I was a fool with tha big boys breaking all tha rules
shed tears with my baby sister
over tha years we wuz poorer than tha other little kids
and even though we had different daddies
tha same drama when things went wrong we blamed mama
I reminised on tha stress I caused, it wuz hell
hugg'en on my mama from a jail cell
and who'ed think in elementary, heeeey i'd see tha penitentiary
One day
running from tha Police, that's right
Momma catch me--put a whoop'en to my backside
and even as a crack fiend mama,
ya always was a black queen mama
I finally understand for a woman
it ain't easy--trying ta raise a man
ya always wuz commited, a poor single mother on welfare,
tell me how ya did it
there's no way I can pay ya back
but tha plan is ta show ya that I understand.
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

Ain't nobody tell us it wuz fair
no luv for my daddy, cause tha coward wuzn't there
he passed away and I didn't cry
cause my anger, wouldn't let me feel for a stranger
they say i'm wrong and i'm heartless
but all along I wuz looking for a father--he wuz gone
I hung around with tha thug's and even though they sold drugs
they showed a young brother luv
I moved out and started really hang'in
I needed money of my own so I started slang'in
I ain't guilty cause, even though I sell rocks
It feels good, putting money in your mailbox
I love paying rent when tha rents due
I hope ya got tha diamond necklace that I sent to you
cause when I wuz low, you was there for me
ya never left me alone, cause ya cared for me
and I can see ya coming home after work late
ya in tha kitchen trying ta fix us a hot plate
just working with tha scraps you wuz given
and mama made miracles every Thanksgiving
but now tha road got rough, your alone
trying ta raise two bad kids on your own
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



Chorus
Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

pour out some liquor and I remenise
cause through tha drama, I can always depend on my mama
and when it seems that i'm hopeless
you say tha words that can get me back in focus
when I wuz sick as a little kid
ta keep me happy theres no limit to tha things ya did
and all my childhood memories
are full of all tha sweet things ya did for me
and even though I act craaaazy
I got ta thank tha Lord that ya maaaade me
There are no words that can express how I feel
Ya never kept a secret, always stayed real
and I appreciate how ya raised me
and all tha extra love that ya gave me
I wish I could take tha pain away
If you can make it through tha night, there's a brighter day
everything'll be alright if ya hold on
it's a struggle
everyday gotta roll on
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated.....



cry



Brenda's Got A Baby was a tear jerker in itself.
Even my mom loved Brenda's Got A Baby.
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Reply #100 posted 09/26/06 2:36pm

dreamfactory31
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Hey Stymie, its funny you should mention your mom. My mom's favorite Tupac song is "How Do You Want It?" I was shocked that my mom liked it. She even went and bought the single back in '96. Hell, Im still shocked. lol
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