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Orgers over 30, let's be honest: Music Didn't Die When You Turned 30. If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that. They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. [Edited 8/15/06 11:49am] | |
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AquafineDream said: If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that. They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. you're only half right. the state of music today is, for the most part and good or bad, the result of the "mtv generation" (aka gen x). this is because we are the one's marketing music, signing pop acts, programming music networks, directing music on tv shows, etc. yes, those who are 30+ are mostly resonsible for what's out there today. but not for the reasons you've suggested...quoite the opposite, actually. who do you think created myspace? hint: it wasn't anyone under 30. | |
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Do you think most people over 50 would call Prince a genius or a great musician or just a filthy pop star who sings badly. No, they grew up with a different set of music.
Just like you guys did. Accept the fact that you're aging. Generations change. Move forward. | |
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categorizing and labeling is what causes problems in the first place.anyone who is creative can appreciate what Prince has done. Anyone that likes to dance can appreciate Princes music. Anyone who likes Eric Clapton and respects his point of view heard what Eric said about Prince: QOUTE If you want to see whats new in music and what the future of music is....look at Princes music. Unquote | |
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Age isn't the most important determining factor..... | |
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LuxuryBrown said: And the nominees for "Dumbest Thread Ever" are...
People can't handle truth when it stares them in the fucking face. It's human nature. Mock away, you're over 30 and you are not in step with the kids anymore. Deal with it and kill the excuses for why today's kids are "oh so lacking" -- I'm pretty sure your parents were saying the same things about your generation too. That's how it is. Own up to the fact that music has moved PAST you. | |
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damn....you are really out to get those over 30. You said something else in another thread about people over 30 You wanna raise the bar a little, because 30 isn't old.....at all. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AquafineDream said: LuxuryBrown said: And the nominees for "Dumbest Thread Ever" are...
People can't handle truth when it stares them in the fucking face. It's human nature. Mock away, you're over 30 and you are not in step with the kids anymore. Deal with it and kill the excuses for why today's kids are "oh so lacking" -- I'm pretty sure your parents were saying the same things about your generation too. That's how it is. Own up to the fact that music has moved PAST you. My bad, forget the nominees, this thread wins "DUMBEST THREAD EVER" hands down after that ridiculous post! ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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I think the difference between my thirty-something generation and the previous one is that there are more people my age now that even care about whether music sucks or not...for my parents and most of their peers, music was not the preoccupation (when they were thirty-somethings) it is for me. The reason I would hold any negative judgments about todays music comes from my not letting go of music; becoming informed seems to be the first step to creating judgements about it. Being around the block gives you plenty of ammunition for seeing how derivitive and stagnant music has become.
So, I'm assuming I've been where you have, and you simply haven't had the opportunity to be where I've been (older). I wish you all the luck you will need in aging gracefully. bc "I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
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1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. | |
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First of all MTV to a certain point was good, but that all ended at the end of the 80's lets be real about that. The 90's and onward generation ruined music. A combination of Media outlets taking over everything and also record companies merging and things like that ruined music. Another thing that ruined Music are PRODUCERS!!! Once Puffy took over in the 90's and sampling became the new crack thats when it all went away, because it then became lets find some good looking girl/guy and slap some beats on a track and we'll sell a million, thats where music went down the drain. So dont even hate on the 80's because if it wasnt for the 80's these morons of today would have nothing to sample and cover. So if you are over 30 like me you are part of the LAST GOOD MUSIC GENERATION! "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. Here, here! | |
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AquafineDream said: If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that. They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. I'm age 32 (born within the mid-70's) and THAT statement is FALSE! There are a lot of artists that came along before I was born, which is mostly music of my parents, uncle, aunt, or even my older cousins' generation. And I know damn good and well that their music were the greatest. Quick Examples: Steive Wonder Marvin Gaye James Brown Sly & The Family Stone The Beatles Emerson Lake & Palmer BTW, I'm a very good fan of music of the 1970's & 1980's. My childhood was the the 80's and synthesizers were in the forefront of a lot of genres that were invented because of it (hip-hop, electro, freestyle, house, techno). My teen years were between 1988-1993 (the REAL greatest hip-hop/rap era!) And lets face it: In terms of creativity, The 1970's were and still is THE best original decade of all times! This was the very last decade where music was created from the ground up with no sampling whatsoever (excluding the Sugarhill Gang of course). As for THIS young generation: 1. The only thing about Eminem that I never care for was his Silm Shady alter-ego. Other than that, he is a good rap artist, IMO. 2. 50 Cent will never be worthy to have 2pac's throne because his lyrics are one-dimensional and pure C.R.A.P.!! And as a business-man, the only person 50 ready cares about is himself (as The Game already pointed out)! 3. There was a time that Jessica Simpson might have been the next Mariah Carey! But debuting within the Britney/Christina era was too difficult for Jessica within a pop marketing standpoint. And to make matters far worse, her parents did a horrible job raising her. In other words, Jessica lives up to stereotype of a dumb blond. 4. Coldplay is just like Radiohead....OVERRATED!!! If these 2 bands were suppose to be the future of Rock & Roll, we all should rot right now!!! 5. Within the first three albums, Britney had good songs here and there (Baby One More Time & Slave 4 U are still her best songs ever, IMO). Indeed, Britney has learn a lot about sound from listening to Janet, Madonna, and Prince. But my bigger turnoff about Britney these days is when she decided to turn Trailer Park Trash on everyone. THIS right here is the reason why Britney has become a freaking joke. And I can't take her serious musically anymore. [Edited 8/15/06 12:59pm] | |
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plz, im under 30 ill be 29 in a few weeks. Anyways overall the music does suck nowadays. Hardly now substance, any artists thats about makeing real and true music gets no airplay.
you figure that with all the advances in technology that the real music will rise to the top, its been the exact opposite. also i wanna add that the kids nowaday's (gen Z if u will) sees the same thing as Gen Xers do. Its them Gen Y folks that like all this glitz and glamour that is forced down our throats... | |
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AquafineDream said: If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that. They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. Well let me embrace this nonsense, with some logic. Kids are the only ones that watch MTV, your generation. That is why there are things like Road Rules and DMX and LIL kim jail shows. I never watched MTV in my younger days for new music because i have a mind, kids today, honestly dont. They want what their friends have got, music to them is like a new pair of sneakers. Ipods and Myspace, well, i have an Ipod and i am not afraid to embrace, but i do know this industry in general will crash, in about a year or so there will be one record company and no more Cds, and also lets not forget that itunes is a business like anything else, those prices will be going up at the end of the year and also Myspace which was freee is about to be sold and soon you will have to pay for that too. So dont make it like this generation is some sort of "rebellious" genius decade. Sorry that was the 60's, and the generation of today could never be anything close to the 60's. This generation is nothing special, its just a shell of the 90's which were pretty bad too, its a generation that just has no indentity, its a generation that views someone in their 30's as old, well guess what, old is in your mind, and usually when you talk like that its because you see your own generation for what it is, nothing. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. 
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. 1. How the fuck do you know *MY* age. Hell I speak in third-person anyway. I am an observer. I could be one of you. But lets not fixate over that. The truth of the matter is I speak about YOU (and not include myself in the mix) because *I* am not a regular poster on this board. A majority of the muthafuckas on here are over 30 and you reak of your age in your slackerfied/generationX ass posts. Let's face it. Now, if you want to blame the kids (which you muthafuckas always tend to do on this board) then riddle me this... what DO YOU KNOW about REGANOMICS. Cutting music programs from schools in the 80s, the height of the drug trade in the 70s and 80s, the rise of gang violence. The music of the 90s and 00s reflects all of that shit that went down in generations prior. It didn't fuckin drop from the sky. Yall heads act like these kids today just decided to come around and fuck up. WHO IS IN POWER RIGHT NOW IN THE INDUSTRY? OLDER FOLKS. WHO ARE THE ASSOCIATE PRODUCERS of these reality shows and the ones who are directors of creative programming. it's muthafuckas over 30, but yet you PUT IT ON THE KIDS? No. The kids are reacting and are creating their own shit. This is a new era. And then you say the lack of disclipine of this generation. hell, the rappers of the 80s didn't even pick up fucking instruments. the hair bands back then had no fucking discipline. that argument you're dishing out is nonsense. because the truth of the matter is folks over 30 are the reason why the music is "sucking" today because IT'S ALL IN YOUR FUCKING HEAD. 2. read what I said about folks over 30 running and controlling the A&R chairs of radio and the programming of music channels. kids under fucking 25 dont have massive control like that. how the hell are they able to even make that much of an influence on what gets played on the radio here. people over 30 are disproportionately responsible for the way music is today. the kids as i have seen it are taking matters into their own hands and music is much more independent these days. kids are still making and creating music, it may not be with the funk instruments rick james 'n em used, but its music nonetheless. if you're not with it, its sheerly because they're on some other shit. the kids of today have their own tastes, just like you had yours. deal with it. 3. you're basing a lot of that on your own world view and i can tell that you're a cat over 30. face it. yall love to give out a laundry list of who was hot and this and that, but if you face the realities of it these folks that you're calling hot now WERENT CONSIDERED SHIT AND NOT EVEN TRUMPED UP LIKE THAT five to ten years after they put out their debuts. everything else you're hitting on is already summed in my other points. face the fact that you're over 30, embrace it, and age gracefully. bottomline. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. THIS is exactly why & how they have gotten so lazy: 
Also, some of the music after 1995 were using the same keyboards (Korg Trinity & Korg Triton) with mostly the same presets/patches! They never program new synth sounds as often as they should. [Edited 8/15/06 11:27am] | |
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at any rate: who wanna chip in on a cookie for this cat since that's basically all they're seeking here, as opposed to posting something of actual value to the forum?
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: at any rate: who wanna chip in on a cookie for this cat since that's basically all they're seeking here, as opposed to posting something of actual value to the forum?
*passing around the ashtray with some change in the bottom* Exactly. This "person" is merely trying to start some shit up. Pay "it" no mind and let the thread die a well deserved ridiculous death. ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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AquafineDream said: BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. 1. How the fuck do you know *MY* age. Hell I speak in third-person anyway. I am an observer. I could be one of you. But lets not fixate over that. The truth of the matter is I speak about YOU (and not include myself in the mix) because *I* am not a regular poster on this board. A majority of the muthafuckas on here are over 30 and you reak of your age in your slackerfied/generationX ass posts. Let's face it. Now, if you want to blame the kids (which you muthafuckas always tend to do on this board) then riddle me this... what DO YOU KNOW about REGANOMICS. Cutting music programs from schools in the 80s, the height of the drug trade in the 70s and 80s, the rise of gang violence. The music of the 90s and 00s reflects all of that shit that went down in generations prior. It didn't fuckin drop from the sky. Yall heads act like these kids today just decided to come around and fuck up. WHO IS IN POWER RIGHT NOW IN THE INDUSTRY? OLDER FOLKS. WHO ARE THE ASSOCIATE PRODUCERS of these reality shows and the ones who are directors of creative programming. it's muthafuckas over 30, but yet you PUT IT ON THE KIDS? No. The kids are reacting and are creating their own shit. This is a new era. And then you say the lack of disclipine of this generation. hell, the rappers of the 80s didn't even pick up fucking instruments. the hair bands back then had no fucking discipline. that argument you're dishing out is nonsense. because the truth of the matter is folks over 30 are the reason why the music is "sucking" today because IT'S ALL IN YOUR FUCKING HEAD. 2. read what I said about folks over 30 running and controlling the A&R chairs of radio and the programming of music channels. kids under fucking 25 dont have massive control like that. how the hell are they able to even make that much of an influence on what gets played on the radio here. people over 30 are disproportionately responsible for the way music is today. the kids as i have seen it are taking matters into their own hands and music is much more independent these days. kids are still making and creating music, it may not be with the funk instruments rick james 'n em used, but its music nonetheless. if you're not with it, its sheerly because they're on some other shit. the kids of today have their own tastes, just like you had yours. deal with it. 3. you're basing a lot of that on your own world view and i can tell that you're a cat over 30. face it. yall love to give out a laundry list of who was hot and this and that, but if you face the realities of it these folks that you're calling hot now WERENT CONSIDERED SHIT AND NOT EVEN TRUMPED UP LIKE THAT five to ten years after they put out their debuts. everything else you're hitting on is already summed in my other points. face the fact that you're over 30, embrace it, and age gracefully. bottomline. Well if you look at things that way then you can blame every generation for something. My problems are basically from this generation are the following. One would be the lack of diversity in what is put out there, whether it be Movie, Tv, or music. Everytime a Movie comes out its a remake, and usually of something from the 80's. Another problem with this generation is you seem to have to be 15-18 to get played, its all about what you look like today, thats why even if you like an artist, theres no loyality, they are here today gone tomorrow. Also people that work at Labels are fresh out of college, with their degrees in nothing running and working there, so they are not even close to 30's. Do i really care about this generation, honestly no, because growing in the 70's -80's, i learned do everything for yourself and stop worrying about whos gonna save you. This generation holds protests because they cant carry their "Cell Phones" in the classrooms, when you should be protesting against one of the many things this country is doing wrong, but i guess that kind of mentality disappeared long ago, today we protest materila things like "Cell Phones" and "cristal" wow great stands to take. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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AquafineDream said: face the fact that you're over 30, embrace it, and age gracefully. bottomline. I think I'll face the fact that not only are you an ageist but an idiot. Being over 30 (which I'm not that far over anyway) is something inevitable unless you die so its idiotic to think that life ends at 29 and all of a sudden you're "old". Not only is that childish but unrealistic and this isn't "Logan's Run" - oh, wait...you're too young to catch that reference. Google it. Just like I said, tell these brats they're not great and there's a two-hour debate. Thank you for proving my point.
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That's exactly it!
To the person above me. It's cyclical. it's a blame game. Cant you see. Many of you have turned into your parents, but you dont want to own up to it. FACE IT. WE'RE NOT HIP ANYMORE. WE AREN'T UNDER 30. WE ARE AGING. The kids are on some "other shit" and we are still fixated with the past and how things used to be and how this star used to be like this, and how this record shop used to be here and there. You can't really knock the kids of today because they don't have the same mind or experiences as you all. I just see a lot of hypocrisy and double-standard type shit here. We know you're aging, just embrace it and move forward. It's going to be like this until the end of time, the generation before the next will think their music is better and over and over and over. It's not gonna stop. But I just wanted to let you all know know that music didn't die when you turned 30, pretty much! | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: at any rate: who wanna chip in on a cookie for this cat since that's basically all they're seeking here, as opposed to posting something of actual value to the forum?
*passing around the ashtray with some change in the bottom* THAT young cat (as you call him) better go to FEMA with that crap. | |
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I never watched MTV growing up. We didn't have it and I never even really wanted it as a kid. 
I watch more old videos now than I ever did growing up, because they're all new to me. Oh, and I LOVE my iPod and mp3 player to bits. And come on, the myspace/music thing has only been going on for a couple of years so far  so what a lame argument. As if before MySpace, kids couldn't still go out to the record/CD store and find music. 
What are you, 13? [Edited 8/15/06 11:54am] "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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TonyVanDam said: BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. THIS is exactly why & how they have gotten so lazy:
Also, some of the music after 1995 were using the same keyboards (Korg Trinity & Korg Triton) with mostly the same presets/patches! They never program new synth sounds as often as they should. [Edited 8/15/06 11:27am] Yeah, but who's fault is that? electronic music and drum Programming been around for decades. We can blame rap, we can blame youth, we can blame mtv, we can blame clearchannel, but in reality folks over 30 need to take a look at themselves because the seeds planted back then resulted in all of whats bloomed today. ALSO, NO ONE EVER WANTS TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT MUSIC PROGRAMS WERE DISMANTLED FROM SCHOOLS IN THE 1980S THANKS TO REGANOMICS. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO TOUCH ON THAT, BUT YA WANNA CONSTANTLY BLAME THESE KIDS TODAY. WHO PLANTED WHAT SEEDS, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. [Edited 8/15/06 11:55am] | |
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AquafineDream said: That's exactly it!
To the person above me. It's cyclical. it's a blame game. Cant you see. Many of you have turned into your parents, but you dont want to own up to it. FACE IT. WE'RE NOT HIP ANYMORE. WE AREN'T UNDER 30. WE ARE AGING. The kids are on some "other shit" and we are still fixated with the past and how things used to be and how this star used to be like this, and how this record shop used to be here and there. You can't really knock the kids of today because they don't have the same mind or experiences as you all. I just see a lot of hypocrisy and double-standard type shit here. We know you're aging, just embrace it and move forward. It's going to be like this until the end of time, the generation before the next will think their music is better and over and over and over. It's not gonna stop. But I just wanted to let you all know know that music didn't die when you turned 30, pretty much! BTW AquafineDream, did you go to the same high school as krazykid18? If I didn't know any better, I would think that either the both of you are from the same school of musical thought OR the both of you are THE SAME person! Nonetheless, krazykid18 is the only big 50 Cent fan that ever appear here in the org. And he/she might be the only orgmember that would agree with you within this thread. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. Amen to that one! perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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AquafineDream said: That's exactly it!
To the person above me. It's cyclical. it's a blame game. then why feed into it? FACE IT. WE'RE NOT HIP ANYMORE. WE AREN'T UNDER 30. WE ARE AGING.
dunno about you, but i'm still under 30 (25, to be precise) and thanks to all these "aging" folks i've been turned on to A LOT of cool shit. they're the hippest muthafuckas that i know. [...]But I just wanted to let you all know know that music didn't die [...]
by most accounts, one of its feet is surely in the grave. unless you wanna give some prime examples of your point above, i'ma head over to the store and get you that cookie you've popped up to get. you want chocolate chip or oatmeal? | |
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