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Reply #30 posted 08/30/06 3:24pm

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damosuzuki said:

Shapeshifter said:



Yes, it's a dead heat between Modern Times and Scott Walker's The Drift for me so far. I think Modern Times will win it though. Unless Janet Jackson's latest turns out to be another "Bad Girls" or "Diana". Which it won't. lol


The Drift is my album of the year so far. I haven't heard Modern Times yet - I'll be picking up a copy this weekend.



You should have yourself a good weekend listening to it. It's funny as fuck in places, Bob drooling over Alicia Keyes (no, really) and singing about "sucking the milk outta thousand cows".

I don't think The Drift was as good as Tilt, but we're talking whiskers here.
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Reply #31 posted 08/30/06 4:27pm

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I don't think The Drift was as good as Tilt, but we're talking whiskers here.


I was slightly disappointed in The Drift (see my brief comments here) at first because it seemed a little too similar to Tilt on first listen, and didn't really leave much of an impact on me. However, the Drift quickly turned into an obsession with me to the extent that I now have to say I think I prefer it. That said, I think I'm going to need a year or two before I'm ready to pass final judgement.
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Reply #32 posted 08/31/06 6:55am

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Sdldawn said:

Number23 said:


As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Thanks for spilling your heart.


its a matter of opinion, or for that matter a preference. That comment didn't debunk his entire career.. only my thoughs on his current sound. If your gonna get all hell bent on a silly comment such as that, your in for a long trip.


Now, go melt all over your dylan.
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[Edited 8/29/06 14:15pm]

simmer down... alright i do agree that dylan's voice has taken a hit in recent years and apparently he is hard to follow in concert unless you are a true fan (i do not know this because he never comes to houston! but i digress). i still like his voice, with the exception of the song 'spirit on the water' off 'modern times', where it kind of went weird, but aside from that his new (fourth voice) works. The lyrics are amazing, the melodies entrancing, and his voice compliments both of the previous elements. it works, it is classic dylan and i have to agree with shapeshifter on the fact that 'modern times' can easily get a place on my top ten dylan albums of all time.
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Reply #33 posted 08/31/06 10:10am

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damosuzuki said:

Shapeshifter said:



I don't think The Drift was as good as Tilt, but we're talking whiskers here.


I was slightly disappointed in The Drift (see my brief comments here) at first because it seemed a little too similar to Tilt on first listen, and didn't really leave much of an impact on me. However, the Drift quickly turned into an obsession with me to the extent that I now have to say I think I prefer it. That said, I think I'm going to need a year or two before I'm ready to pass final judgement.



Note to self: NEVER argue with a Fall fan. Got to admit The Drift is one of those albums which really get their hooks in you and oull you into their strange, dark orbit. I think it may even be slightly more "up" than Tilt. The opening song certainly is. Do you rate Climate of Hunter? It's closer to that in overall tone, I think, but way more innovative. I mean, RAW MEAT as percussion.

Was The Drift marketed as POP MUSic. Someone at 4AD has a great sense of humour. lol
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Reply #34 posted 08/31/06 10:15am

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darwinistchick said:

Sdldawn said:



Thanks for spilling your heart.


its a matter of opinion, or for that matter a preference. That comment didn't debunk his entire career.. only my thoughs on his current sound. If your gonna get all hell bent on a silly comment such as that, your in for a long trip.


Now, go melt all over your dylan.
.
[Edited 8/29/06 14:15pm]

simmer down... alright i do agree that dylan's voice has taken a hit in recent years and apparently he is hard to follow in concert unless you are a true fan (i do not know this because he never comes to houston! but i digress). i still like his voice, with the exception of the song 'spirit on the water' off 'modern times', where it kind of went weird, but aside from that his new (fourth voice) works. The lyrics are amazing, the melodies entrancing, and his voice compliments both of the previous elements. it works, it is classic dylan and i have to agree with shapeshifter on the fact that 'modern times' can easily get a place on my top ten dylan albums of all time.


Dylan apparently worked on the vocals a lot for this album, concentrating on things like breathing and phrasing. The only song I find average on the album is Nettie Moore, but it has some great - and very funny lyrics. Modern Times could serve as the final part of a loose triptych of similarly themed albums. It has the great tunes of Time Out Of Mind, but not much of its despair, and it retains much of Love & Theft's playfulness. Wonder what he'll do next?
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Reply #35 posted 08/31/06 10:25am

damosuzuki

Shapeshifter said:

damosuzuki said:



I was slightly disappointed in The Drift (see my brief comments here) at first because it seemed a little too similar to Tilt on first listen, and didn't really leave much of an impact on me. However, the Drift quickly turned into an obsession with me to the extent that I now have to say I think I prefer it. That said, I think I'm going to need a year or two before I'm ready to pass final judgement.



Note to self: NEVER argue with a Fall fan. Got to admit The Drift is one of those albums which really get their hooks in you and oull you into their strange, dark orbit. I think it may even be slightly more "up" than Tilt. The opening song certainly is. Do you rate Climate of Hunter? It's closer to that in overall tone, I think, but way more innovative. I mean, RAW MEAT as percussion.

Was The Drift marketed as POP MUSic. Someone at 4AD has a great sense of humour. lol
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Shamefully enough, I have never heard Climate of Hunter in full - I've heard the tracks that were included in the boxed set that came out last year, though, and I've enjoyed them well enough. I don't think I've gained enough of a picture of the album over-all though.

I love that raw meat percussion. I've listened to the record a few times while lightly napping, and every time that section comes along I've been jolted awake while thinking 'what the hell am i listening to?'
lol

And I guess I just have a very broad definition of pop music.
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Reply #36 posted 08/31/06 11:58am

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damosuzuki said:

Shapeshifter said:




Note to self: NEVER argue with a Fall fan. Got to admit The Drift is one of those albums which really get their hooks in you and oull you into their strange, dark orbit. I think it may even be slightly more "up" than Tilt. The opening song certainly is. Do you rate Climate of Hunter? It's closer to that in overall tone, I think, but way more innovative. I mean, RAW MEAT as percussion.

Was The Drift marketed as POP MUSic. Someone at 4AD has a great sense of humour. lol
[Edited 8/31/06 10:16am]


Shamefully enough, I have never heard Climate of Hunter in full - I've heard the tracks that were included in the boxed set that came out last year, though, and I've enjoyed them well enough. I don't think I've gained enough of a picture of the album over-all though.

I love that raw meat percussion. I've listened to the record a few times while lightly napping, and every time that section comes along I've been jolted awake while thinking 'what the hell am i listening to?'
lol

And I guess I just have a very broad definition of pop music.



Go buy Climate of Hunter when you pick up Modern Times this weekend. Features Mark Knopfler and Billy Ocean, but this being Scott Walker you don't actually recognise their performances.
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Reply #37 posted 08/31/06 1:54pm

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Yea, I heard the whole album. It has a very laid back, quaint feeling to it, like music from the 40's or something. Very old school. The songs are nice, but not 5 star, I don't think. Once again Rolling Stone kisses Dylan's ass a bit too lubricatingly. Ewww, sputtem on his old wrinkly ass cheeks. ewwww.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #38 posted 08/31/06 2:22pm

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Shapeshifter said:

darwinistchick said:


simmer down... alright i do agree that dylan's voice has taken a hit in recent years and apparently he is hard to follow in concert unless you are a true fan (i do not know this because he never comes to houston! but i digress). i still like his voice, with the exception of the song 'spirit on the water' off 'modern times', where it kind of went weird, but aside from that his new (fourth voice) works. The lyrics are amazing, the melodies entrancing, and his voice compliments both of the previous elements. it works, it is classic dylan and i have to agree with shapeshifter on the fact that 'modern times' can easily get a place on my top ten dylan albums of all time.


Dylan apparently worked on the vocals a lot for this album, concentrating on things like breathing and phrasing. The only song I find average on the album is Nettie Moore, but it has some great - and very funny lyrics. Modern Times could serve as the final part of a loose triptych of similarly themed albums. It has the great tunes of Time Out Of Mind, but not much of its despair, and it retains much of Love & Theft's playfulness. Wonder what he'll do next?

That's what's so inspiring about Dylan. 45 years into his career, and he still has us guessing. I got bored with Prince about 18 years into his career. Rolling Stone still need their asses kicked though. Those bitches have never been known to tell it straight in their whole history. There's alays an agenda skewing their reviews.
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Reply #39 posted 09/25/06 7:39pm

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Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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I think Dylan would love this description.
Been listening to this album ~ most of the weekend ~ there is something about it ~ kind of Willie Nelson meets Nick Cave. (said with all due respect to the three of them). Nettie Moore ~ had me sitting at the edge of the Lake Huron sobbing, kicking and screaming for lost time. I love it.
Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #40 posted 09/25/06 8:29pm

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I agree that Modern Times is better overall than Love & Theft (which itself was fantastic)... it's going to be hard to beat for album of the year this year, for me anyway
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