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Thread started 08/28/06 7:50pm

pkidwell

Bob Dylan - Cover of R. Stone and new album = 5 Stars!!

i'm telling you he was awesome in concert....and now he has the cover and 5 stars for his new album.....i wish Prince would make another 5 star album
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/06 7:56pm

Anx

the new dylan album may well be that good, but i think rolling stone is under some kind of satanic obligation to always give his albums five star reviews.
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/06 8:07pm

Sdldawn

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/06 8:37pm

whoknows

pkidwell said:

i'm telling you he was awesome in concert....and now he has the cover and 5 stars for his new album.....i wish Prince would make another 5 star album

Does anyone take Rolling Stone reviews seriously?
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/06 9:18pm

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Did anyone read the Christina Aguilera issue? See there should be a Gnarls Barkley story in there too.
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Reply #5 posted 08/29/06 7:03am

kisscamille

Anx said:

the new dylan album may well be that good, but i think rolling stone is under some kind of satanic obligation to always give his albums five star reviews.
[Edited 8/28/06 19:57pm]


Yep, I have to agree with you on this Anx. I'm a huge Dylan fan, but I will have to hear the entire cd before I believe what RS thinks of it. Although, Dylan is a master song writer, so I'm sure I will love it.
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Reply #6 posted 08/29/06 8:14am

Number23

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Reply #7 posted 08/29/06 12:03pm

Number23

And still the best head of hair in rock.


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Reply #8 posted 08/29/06 12:09pm

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Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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eek Uhm, do you write professionally or anything?
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Reply #9 posted 08/29/06 12:21pm

Number23

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Number23 said:


As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.




eek Uhm, do you write professionally or anything?

Quite the opposite, I'm a sleazy downmarket "made his excuses and left" journalist. smile
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Reply #10 posted 08/29/06 12:46pm

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Dylan got Five stars for Love And Theft as well. Actually, that album is really good, about four and a half stars, so they almost got it right. Haven't heard the new one yet. I usually don't bend in Dylan's direction much.
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Reply #11 posted 08/29/06 1:22pm

Number23

2freaky4church1 said:

Dylan got Five stars for Love And Theft as well. Actually, that album is really good, about four and a half stars, so they almost got it right. Haven't heard the new one yet. I usually don't bend in Dylan's direction much.

Dylan's a compass in quark time. He doesn't really do direction.
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Reply #12 posted 08/29/06 2:08pm

Sdldawn

Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Thanks for spilling your heart.


its a matter of opinion, or for that matter a preference. That comment didn't debunk his entire career.. only my thoughs on his current sound. If your gonna get all hell bent on a silly comment such as that, your in for a long trip.


Now, go melt all over your dylan.
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Reply #13 posted 08/29/06 2:11pm

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it is actually a very good record. and, live, his band totally rocks.
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/06 2:19pm

pkidwell

the one before Love and Theft was amazing as well.....i forgot the name though....and his voice has changed a bit but when i saw him in concert his voice was like an instrument....kind of like Prince in some ways
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Reply #15 posted 08/29/06 2:40pm

Sdldawn

Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.[Edited 8/29/06 12:05pm]


lol That trips me out when someone from the org thinkisn their final line should be by pulling "mccartney" out of the bag... when I get down to reading that one line.. i just scream out NOOOOO.. and cry.. naked

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Reply #16 posted 08/29/06 4:39pm

damosuzuki

Anx said:

the new dylan album may well be that good, but i think rolling stone is under some kind of satanic obligation to always give his albums five star reviews.
[Edited 8/28/06 19:57pm]


I'm not an apologist for Rolling Stone or anything, but they gave Dylan poor to luke-warm reviews for pretty much every album he released post-Desire up to Time Out of Mind, excluding Oh Mercy and infidels, as did almost every other music publication. Dylan's last two albums were praised unanimously (tops in Village Voice polls, tops or top ten in pretty much every list that came out in the years they were released), and his new album is receiving much the same treatment.

Personally, I'm absolutely thrilled that I can look forward to Bob Dylan records again - for a long time, they were just something to endure, but his recent recordings are among his finest, which means that they're among the finest rock music ever released.
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Reply #17 posted 08/29/06 9:36pm

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I've only listened to it once all the way threw so far...but I'm loving it!

But I do agree with Anx...seems the media is going to give him props no matter what he does.
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #18 posted 08/29/06 9:36pm

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whoknows said:

pkidwell said:

i'm telling you he was awesome in concert....and now he has the cover and 5 stars for his new album.....i wish Prince would make another 5 star album

Does anyone take Rolling Stone reviews seriously?



NO. lol


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Reply #19 posted 08/29/06 9:38pm

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Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Reply #20 posted 08/29/06 11:25pm

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"Modern Times"is superb, much better than "Love & Theft". I'd even go so far as to say it's one of Dylan's ten greatest albums.
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Reply #21 posted 08/29/06 11:27pm

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damosuzuki said:

Anx said:

the new dylan album may well be that good, but i think rolling stone is under some kind of satanic obligation to always give his albums five star reviews.
[Edited 8/28/06 19:57pm]


I'm not an apologist for Rolling Stone or anything, but they gave Dylan poor to luke-warm reviews for pretty much every album he released post-Desire up to Time Out of Mind, excluding Oh Mercy and infidels, as did almost every other music publication. Dylan's last two albums were praised unanimously (tops in Village Voice polls, tops or top ten in pretty much every list that came out in the years they were released), and his new album is receiving much the same treatment.

Personally, I'm absolutely thrilled that I can look forward to Bob Dylan records again - for a long time, they were just something to endure, but his recent recordings are among his finest, which means that they're among the finest rock music ever released.
[Edited 8/29/06 17:48pm]



I think every single one of his albums has something to recommend it, even spit in the bucket, disinterested offerings of refried outtakes like Knocked Out Loaded and Down In The Groove (the better of the two, in my opinion).
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Reply #22 posted 08/29/06 11:29pm

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Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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You do have a point. wink lol
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Reply #23 posted 08/30/06 3:27am

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I love "Workingman's Blues #2", "When the Deal Goes Down", "Ain't Talkin'", "Spirit On The Water", "Thunder On A Mountain" most. These are five masterpieces on "Modern Times".
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Reply #24 posted 08/30/06 3:41am

damosuzuki

Shapeshifter said:



I think every single one of his albums has something to recommend it, even spit in the bucket, disinterested offerings of refried outtakes like Knocked Out Loaded and Down In The Groove (the better of the two, in my opinion).



I think Saved and Knocked Out Loaded are the worst of what I've heard. I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're worthless, but I really think the only people who need to own those records are completists - the same kind of people who need to have Dirty Work or Mistrial.

I've yet to hear Self-Portrait or Dylan, both of which are often held up as being among the worst records ever released by a major artist. I think it was Greil Marcus who said of Self-Portrait, "I once said I'd pay money to hear Dylan sing the phone book, but I never said I'd pay money to hear him read the phone book."
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Reply #25 posted 08/30/06 6:27am

kisscamille

Shapeshifter said:

"Modern Times"is superb, much better than "Love & Theft". I'd even go so far as to say it's one of Dylan's ten greatest albums.



Cool! I bought it last night and can't wait to listen to it all the way through without any interruptions.
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Reply #26 posted 08/30/06 11:31am

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Number23 said:

Sdldawn said:

he should get a star taken away from that horrifyin voice of his now...

As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Thank you, well said!

Modern Times is a great album. Possibly the best album of the year.
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damosuzuki said:

Shapeshifter said:



I think every single one of his albums has something to recommend it, even spit in the bucket, disinterested offerings of refried outtakes like Knocked Out Loaded and Down In The Groove (the better of the two, in my opinion).



I think Saved and Knocked Out Loaded are the worst of what I've heard. I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're worthless, but I really think the only people who need to own those records are completists - the same kind of people who need to have Dirty Work or Mistrial.

Saved has In The Garden and Covenant Woman on it. Knocked Out Loaded has Brownsville Girl. They're not essential but those songs damn well are.

Dirty Work is, admittedly, lame, but it has a few redeeming features. Harlem Shuffle, Sleep Tonight, Winning Ugly and One Hit.

Mistrial has Tell It To Your Heart on it and Mama's Got Lover
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I've yet to hear Self-Portrait or Dylan, both of which are often held up as being among the worst records ever released by a major artist. I think it was Greil Marcus who said of Self-Portrait, "I once said I'd pay money to hear Dylan sing the phone book, but I never said I'd pay money to hear him read the phone book."



Self Portrait's actually pretty good, an extension of Nashville Skyline, although not as good. Dylan was cobbled together by CBS after Bob had briefly left them for Geffen, and isn't a "proper" Dylan album. It's also never been released on CD.
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Eraserhead said:

Number23 said:


As any fule no, Dylan's new (indeed, fourth) voice is an aching, empathically beautiful tone poem boogallo of Munch's scream, a sprinkle of Faustian pact, cooked in the fires of earthly sin for a few lemon planet twists - unflinchingly, brutally honest, terrifyingly true and torn from the frog flesh of hard-fought, hard-won hubris set free of all pretention or artificiallity. It's a sound borne of furious meloncholy, of ancient stars burning out, of their planets shattering from a coreless frost. It's a single, lost, lonely, hurting man grasping for the last flickering ebbs of light and warmth in a untangiable, trickster universe - grasping, tripping and falling one last time before everything goes dark and empty forever. You just don't get that shit from Paul McCartney, dude.
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Thank you, well said!

Modern Times is a great album. Possibly the best album of the year.


Yes, it's a dead heat between Modern Times and Scott Walker's The Drift for me so far. I think Modern Times will win it though. Unless Janet Jackson's latest turns out to be another "Bad Girls" or "Diana". Which it won't. lol
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Reply #29 posted 08/30/06 2:19pm

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Shapeshifter said:

Eraserhead said:



Thank you, well said!

Modern Times is a great album. Possibly the best album of the year.


Yes, it's a dead heat between Modern Times and Scott Walker's The Drift for me so far. I think Modern Times will win it though. Unless Janet Jackson's latest turns out to be another "Bad Girls" or "Diana". Which it won't. lol


The Drift is my album of the year so far. I haven't heard Modern Times yet - I'll be picking up a copy this weekend.
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