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PrintableAquafineDream said: That's exactly it!
To the person above me. It's cyclical. it's a blame game. Cant you see. Many of you have turned into your parents, but you dont want to own up to it. FACE IT. WE'RE NOT HIP ANYMORE. WE AREN'T UNDER 30. WE ARE AGING. The kids are on some "other shit" and we are still fixated with the past and how things used to be and how this star used to be like this, and how this record shop used to be here and there. You can't really knock the kids of today because they don't have the same mind or experiences as you all. I just see a lot of hypocrisy and double-standard type shit here. We know you're aging, just embrace it and move forward. It's going to be like this until the end of time, the generation before the next will think their music is better and over and over and over. It's not gonna stop. But I just wanted to let you all know know that music didn't die when you turned 30, pretty much! Well again i have to disagree, when i started buying music on my own in the early 80's, i did not hate on what came before me. I wasnt like "Bee Gees? this aint the 70's anymore" i absorbed everything in to a musical taste, and i still do that today when i see something new or hear something new, i think you have a blanket statement of people in their 30's and they all "do certainthings" well sorry i dont. Alot of the artists i listened to now, originated when i was growing up BUT STILL MAKE NEW MUSIC, why is there such a "hate" towards an artist if they are "god forbid" 30-40 and making music still. Today people feel that you can only make music when u are 18-20. But like i said i do listen to new artists because every generation does have something to offer, but I do not hate on something just because the artist may not be a teenager. And since i have a musical taste that spans decades and doesnt discriminate, i can hate on something if i want, i dont do it because i think im old, to be honest old is in your mind, im 36 and have a 20 year old girlfriend, and not because that "keeps meyoung" the way i live keeps me young. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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i've got it. let's blame one another for the state of music today.
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Ok, this is what I find funny/weird about the debates that go on here about today's music and the music from the kids.
Now, we just had a girl in this thread state she was 25. There you go. Yet, you all hate on her generation. The thing i've noticed, a LOT of the kids in here appreciate the music of the past and dont knock it, but yet a lot of the folks over 30 knock the music of the young kids generation. WHO IS SHOWING MORE DIVERSITY -- THE YOUNGER FOLKS OR THE OLDER FOLKS? I will be honest. The older orgers on here (and the under 30 groupies that follow them) come off as bitter, jaded and living in the past. Yes there's ageism here to the cat that said there was. The folks over 30 think there shit dont stink and the young cats sniff it all up and agree with these old folks. On top of that, a lot of you people play favorites so I dont expect to be agreed with or get stars on my points. I dont have a long org history or whatever but that's beside the point. Music Didn't (and Will Not) Die When You Turn(ed) 30. To the female: I like chocolate chip. Thank you. | |
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AquafineDream said: If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that. They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. [Edited 8/15/06 11:49am] speak for yourself, pamper breath. music didn't die when i turned 30. it was more like when i turned 27 or 28. (by the way, that was an attempt at irony, which was a popular form of humor in the early '90s) i don't think music is dead. i don't think it will ever die. but i do feel that the popular music scene is terribly inhibited right now, and it's unnecessarily polarized. right now is a new version of the late '50s early '60s, where music was tightly divided to specific demographics. there was no fusion. there was no blurring of edges. music that isn't easily pidgeonholed now generally does not succeed. we love our templates. punk started when people were bitching about how all pop music sucked, and they created an alternative. now, the people who bitch about pop music are considered a target market, and the industry creates bands who pretend to agree with the complainers. it's depressing. there's good stuff out there, sure. you just have to really DIG for it. that hasn't changed in all the years i've beena alive. | |
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AquafineDream said: TonyVanDam said: THIS is exactly why & how they have gotten so lazy: 
Also, some of the music after 1995 were using the same keyboards (Korg Trinity & Korg Triton) with mostly the same presets/patches! They never program new synth sounds as often as they should. [Edited 8/15/06 11:27am] Yeah, but who's fault is that? electronic music and drum Programming been around for decades. We can blame rap, we can blame youth, we can blame mtv, we can blame clearchannel, but in reality folks over 30 need to take a look at themselves because the seeds planted back then resulted in all of whats bloomed today. ALSO, NO ONE EVER WANTS TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT MUSIC PROGRAMS WERE DISMANTLED FROM SCHOOLS IN THE 1980S THANKS TO REGANOMICS. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO TOUCH ON THAT, BUT YA WANNA CONSTANTLY BLAME THESE KIDS TODAY. WHO PLANTED WHAT SEEDS, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. [Edited 8/15/06 11:55am] The following artists that trained themselves on the art of music without any help from the public or private school systems: Prince Rick James Barry White James Brown George Clinton All 4 original members of KISS --> Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Peter Criss, Ace Frehley Bootsy Collins 2 members of The Beatles --> John Lennon & Paul McCartney And all of THIS was before REGANOMICS in America (excluding Lennon/McCartney, they were from the UK). So none of us can use the lack of school support as an excuse. Music Instruments stores still exist. They always have books on Scales & Chords. Therefore, if the kids of today wanted to learn everything about music (beside 3 chords & a minor key scale), They can get off their laxy asses and go get the knowledge that is available to them. Also, they can also listen to some old CDs, cassettes, 8-Tracks & vinyl records and learn the arts of music by ear. No sampling with the MPC!!! But learn to play those notes with their instruments. [Edited 8/15/06 15:02pm] | |
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AquafineDream said: The thing i've noticed, a LOT of the kids in here appreciate the music of the past and dont knock it, but yet a lot of the folks over 30 knock the music of the young kids generation. Because the majority of it REALLY IS TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHIT!  That is why, pure and simple.
Now go back and listen to that genius "Gasolina" song, throw in some Pussycat Dolls and perhaps, "My Humps", and then Paris Hilton's single...or wait! How about "I'm In Love With a Stripper" and top it off with Daniel Powter's "Bad Day".  Those are some classics in the making right there.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Hey, if you all *think* you know my age... then I can't help you out of that one. I'd go more for the points than the tone. I'm not an easy person to categorize.
Anyways... But the guy above made good point when you said "there's good stuff out there" but the common argument i'm hearing is that "you have to DIG for it." well, you've ALWAYS have to dig for good music. Anyone who REALLy is into music knows that. when i was coming up, the DJ yes he played the lastest, hottest cuts, but if you wanted that album gem a lot of times you had to buy the record, or word of mouth or dig in the crates at the record shop. television isn't going to tell you what's hot. The thing is, a lot of you cats are stuck on MTV this and that when the kids i talk to 88% of them arent watching mtv and they are downloading most of their shit for free. And i applaud the younger folks for coming here to prince.org and putting up with all this nonsense and bullshit from the unappreciative older folks. but i tell you a lot of kids still dont come here and chat about NEW music, so that's why a lot of yall think todays music is shit. prince isn't exactly an artist of today so i expect that. but anyway, back in my day i didn't see young heads chatting it up about Prince or Rolling Stones or what have you with the older folks, we didnt have the internet like we do now. we didnt have forums like this. so a lot of the young folks who lurk and participate in these boards with the older folks, i give you respect because it really shows me that you guys have some diversity about you and you arent pigeonheaded. believe me, when you get older you get stubborn and its hard to change your ways. the kids are changing the game and HAVe changed it and the older folks just need to use a bit more relatively when dealing with the music out now. also, i notice the younger kids are showing appreciation to the music of old and are not recreating it but redefining it. i still find music to be exciting. but its a shame a lot of you are choosing not to talk about it or check for it because what i hear from these kids is very inspiring -- about the same or even MORE SO then when i was coming up... [Edited 8/15/06 12:22pm] | |
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medoc2003 said: i've got it. let's blame one another for the state of music today.
? [Edited 8/15/06 12:12pm] that's pretty much it.  | |
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AquafineDream said: Ok, this is what I find funny/weird about the debates that go on here about today's music and the music from the kids.
Now, we just had a girl in this thread state she was 25. There you go. Yet, you all hate on her generation. The thing i've noticed, a LOT of the kids in here appreciate the music of the past and dont knock it, but yet a lot of the folks over 30 knock the music of the young kids generation. and i couldn't care less, because they're right to knock it. i've never liked 98% of what my contemporaries have put out--i've chosen not to listen to whatever's going on in music nowadays, simply because of the lack of actual talent and the fact that the industry nowadays is so eager to give a recording contract to anyone who's breathing, blinking, and able to hum "mary had a little lamb". i dig for the good stuff too. i simply choose to dig in an entirely different plot of dirt, is all. ain't a damned thing wrong with that. and you still haven't answered the question i asked you earlier, aquafine. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: medoc2003 said: i've got it. let's blame one another for the state of music today.
? [Edited 8/15/06 12:12pm] that's pretty much it. ....and lets also not even listen to good advices from our org elders. Can we  this thread already. | |
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AquafineDream said: Hey, if you all *think* you know my age... then I can't help you out of that one. I'd go more for the points than the tone. I'm not an easy person to categorize.
Anyways... But the guy above made good point when you said "there's good stuff out there" but the common argument i'm hearing is that "you have to DIG for it." well, you've ALWAYS have to dig for good music. Anyone who REALLy is into music knows that. when i was coming up, the DJ yes he played the lastest, hottest cuts, but if you wanted that album gem a lot of times you had to buy the record, or word of mouth or dig in the crates at the record shop. television isn't going to tell you what's hot. The thing is, a lot of you cats are stuck on MTV this and that when the kids i talk to 88% of them arent watching mtv and they are downloading most of their shit for free. And i applaud the younger folks for coming here to prince.org and putting up with all this nonsense and bullshit from the unappreciative older folks. but i tell you a lot of kids still dont come here and chat about NEW music, so that's why a lot of yall think todays music is shit. prince isn't exactly an artist of today so i expect that. but anyway, back in my day i didn't see young heads chatting it up about Prince or Rolling Stones or what have you with the older folks, we didnt have the internet like we do now. we didnt have forums like this. so a lot of the young folks who lurk and participate in these boards with the older folks, i give you respect because it really shows me that you guys have some diversity about you and you arent pigeonheaded. believe me, when you get older you get stubborn and its hard to change your ways. the kids are changing the game and HAVe changed it and the older folks just need to use a bit more relatively when dealing with the music out now. also, i notice the younger kids are showing appreciation to the music of old and are not recreating it but redefining it. i still find music to be exciting. but its a shame a lot of you are choosing not to talk about it or check for it because what i hear from these kids is very inspiring -- about the same or even MORE SO then when i was coming up... [Edited 8/15/06 12:22pm] My main trouble with this generation is it doesnt embrace the past to a certain degree, im not sure where you see the embrace. My problems are mainly that because an artist is over 30 they are considered "over" even thought they still record and put out better music than they did before. Every generation has to find their own way, but to just say that i hate something because "Im old" and its not from my time is total crap. In the span of a day i can listen to everything from Beyonce to Prince to a-ha to Cassie to the Roots to the Bee gees, so u see there is no timeline there and no discrimination based on "age". Lets also take your statement of "Kids today download music for free" well ask yourself why are they doing that? because alot of it sucks and they are weeding through it and dont wanna pay for it, you are practically saying so much of music sucks i better get it for free. And also in terms of age, if i would have thought of things like that when i became a teenager in 1981 i would have never embraced artists like the Beatles, Queen and others that came a little before i started listening to music nonstop , because by todays standards they would be "old". "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Lets try once more for the young brats that didn't listen the first time:
The following artists that train themselves on the art of music without any help from the public or private school systems: Prince Rick James Barry White James Brown George Clinton All 4 original members of KISS --> Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Peter Criss, Ace Frehley Bootsy Collins 2 members of The Beatles --> John Lennon & Paul McCartney And all of THIS was before REGANOMICS in America (excluding Lennon/McCartney, they were from the UK). So none of us can use the lack of school support as an excuse. Music Instruments stores still exist. They always have books on Scales & Chords. Therefore, if the kids of today wanted to learn everything about music (beside 3 chords & a minor key scale), They can get off their laxy asses and go get the knowledge that is available to them. Also, they can also listen to some old CDs, cassettes, 8-Tracks & vinyl records and learn the arts of music by ear. No sampling with the MPC!!! But learn to play those notes with their instruments. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: AquafineDream said: Ok, this is what I find funny/weird about the debates that go on here about today's music and the music from the kids.
Now, we just had a girl in this thread state she was 25. There you go. Yet, you all hate on her generation. The thing i've noticed, a LOT of the kids in here appreciate the music of the past and dont knock it, but yet a lot of the folks over 30 knock the music of the young kids generation. and i couldn't care less, because they're right to knock it. i've never liked 98% of what my contemporaries have put out--i've chosen not to listen to whatever's going on in music nowadays, simply because of the lack of actual talent and the fact that the industry nowadays is so eager to give a recording contract to anyone who's breathing, blinking, and able to hum "mary had a little lamb". i dig for the good stuff too. i simply choose to dig in an entirely different plot of dirt, is all. ain't a damned thing wrong with that.  | |
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TonyVanDam said: Coldplay is just like Radiohead....OVERRATED!!! If these 2 bands were suppose to be the future of Rock & Roll, we all should rot right now!!! It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: AquafineDream said: That's exactly it!
To the person above me. It's cyclical. it's a blame game. then why feed into it? dunno about you, but i'm still under 30 (25, to be precise) and thanks to all these "aging" folks i've been turned on to A LOT of cool shit. they're the hippest muthafuckas that i know. [...]But I just wanted to let you all know know that music didn't die [...]
by most accounts, one of its feet is surely in the grave. unless you wanna give some prime examples of your point above, i'ma head over to the store and get you that cookie you've popped up to get. you want chocolate chip or oatmeal? I'm just 6 days shy of 21 and I'm in agreement with lastdecember, BlaqueKnight, and Handclaps. Stop tripping homie. You make some good points, but these "Not hip" 30 something make some better ones. Here's the point. Older people can't blame us any more then we can blame them. Yea a lot of things happened in their generations that laid the groundwork for the messed up scene today, but at the same time we're the only ones who can change it because we have the power. The older folks can preach all they want, but that doesn't necessarily mean young kids are gonna listen. WE NEVER listen. That's been true since the beginning of time, for better or worse.
And yea, the young folks are making some crappy, lazy, uninspired music, but at the same time we don't have those simple forums to teach us. Like, the amount of good music programs, parents who really taught their kids about music, and all that. And it's not all crappy. It's not about taking a chance on something different and backing it up and giving it a chance to grow, it's about what makes the most money. Don't blame the age groups, blame greed, materialism, parents who dropped the ball, without actually realizing it, on teaching their kids how to be truly self-sufficient and independent and individual with thier own minds. You can't just pigeon hole something like this. They're are a lot of reasons why music, and damn near anything else, isn't as good as it used to be, and most of them have nothing to do with age. Take a breather I graduated bitches!!! 12-19-09   | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: TonyVanDam said: Coldplay is just like Radiohead....OVERRATED!!! If these 2 bands were suppose to be the future of Rock & Roll, we all should rot right now!!! Welcome back.  | |
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TonyVanDam said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Welcome back.  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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AquafineDream said: If you're 30 and over, YOUR GENERATION -- THE MTV GENERATION -- is the direct result of the Britney Spears, Coldplays, Jessica Simpsons, ghetto rappers, 50 Cents, Eminems and suburban rock bands of today.
Face it. You came from the era of watching MTV day in and day out. Those were the bands you supported. Prince was one of them. Kids of today don't check for MTV to get their music like you now-thirtysomethings used to do when you guys were teens and young adults. The kids have moved on to myspace, p2p downloading, all that.They have much more music to listen to than ever before. Many of you are scared to embrace the iPod and mp3 players, not because they're killing the album or music or whatever, it's because you're GETTING OLD. You are (or have) turned into your parents. You're not hip with the kids of today. They have outpaced you. I see a lot of posts on this board blaming the kids for the state of today's music. Well shit, it had to start somewhere. THE MTV GENERATION (i.e. all you folks over 30) that generation is the reason why music is what it is today for better or for worse. And lets not act like the 1970s and 1980s were ALL GOOD MUSIC, ALL THE TIME because we know that's a fucking lie. There will always be good music around. Music didn't die when you grew up. Let's accept it and move forward. [Edited 8/15/06 11:49am] On the highlighted statements I'll just say speaking as someone who is over 30, not everybody had cable at home back in the 80's to watch MTV all day as you claim. So, you are wrong off the bat right there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I can partially understand your point, Aquafine.
A lot of the bitching that you hear from us 30+'s pertains to popular music. I won't even pretend to like or understand most of the shit that's on the radio today. And, yes, I've pretty much chalked it up to my age. And if that means that music has passed me by then in the words of the Pharcyde, it can keep on 'passin' me byyyyy'. But I doubt that's the case. Why? Because there are plenty of groups out there putting it down. Young cats. My listening experience is not relegated to the 70's and 80's. But I will continue to berate popular so-called artists. Mostly because I think their musical perspective is lazy and more focused on popularity than creativity. I find it's true that I do have to dig a little more than I did in the past for good music, but I don't mind. The end justifies the means. | |
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so, in my earlier post, i kind of sarcastically lampooned the tone of some of the commentary in the posts here. i understand where both schools are coming from.
i grew up in the 60's-70's-80's, and think the late 60's through the early-mid 80's were an incredible era for popular music, and have a large music collection spanning those years. i love a great many artist from that era, and will sing their praises here, but.... people have a tendency to selectively remember things. for every great stevie wonder album released in the 70's, there was an air supply and a tony orlando and dawn album released. for every led zeppelin II, there were 2-3 lame-assed osmond brothers-defranco family albums released. if you listened to AM top 40 radio back then it was filled with some of the most insipid bullshit ever. i think some people do talk about the 70's as if every album released was on par with songs in the key of life, and they weren't. i worked at record stores, and for every classic great album, there were stacks and stacks of total shit. we just tend to forget all of that crap. ------------------------------------------------
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medoc2003 said: so, in my earlier post, i kind of sarcastically lampooned the tone of some of the commentary in the posts here. i understand where both schools are coming from.
i grew up in the 60's-70's-80's, and think the late 60's through the early-mid 80's were an incredible era for popular music, and have a large music collection spanning those years. i love a great many artist from that era, and will sing their praises here, but.... people have a tendency to selectively remember things. for every great stevie wonder album released in the 70's, there was an air supply and a tony orlando and dawn album released. for every led zeppelin II, there were 2-3 lame-assed osmond brothers-defranco family albums released. if you listened to AM top 40 radio back then it was filled with some of the most insipid bullshit ever. i think some people do talk about the 70's as if every album released was on par with songs in the key of life, and they weren't. i worked at record stores, and for every classic great album, there were stacks and stacks of total shit. we just tend to forget all of that crap. I love a lot of the cheesy 70s shit as well. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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medoc2003 said: so, in my earlier post, i kind of sarcastically lampooned the tone of some of the commentary in the posts here. i understand where both schools are coming from.
i grew up in the 60's-70's-80's, and think the late 60's through the early-mid 80's were an incredible era for popular music, and have a large music collection spanning those years. i love a great many artist from that era, and will sing their praises here, but.... people have a tendency to selectively remember things. for every great stevie wonder album released in the 70's, there was an air supply and a tony orlando and dawn album released. for every led zeppelin II, there were 2-3 lame-assed osmond brothers-defranco family albums released. if you listened to AM top 40 radio back then it was filled with some of the most insipid bullshit ever. i think some people do talk about the 70's as if every album released was on par with songs in the key of life, and they weren't. i worked at record stores, and for every classic great album, there were stacks and stacks of total shit. we just tend to forget all of that crap. You have a good point. But then again my generation has no Stevie Wonders or Led Zeppelins... just the insipid bullshit It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: medoc2003 said: so, in my earlier post, i kind of sarcastically lampooned the tone of some of the commentary in the posts here. i understand where both schools are coming from.
i grew up in the 60's-70's-80's, and think the late 60's through the early-mid 80's were an incredible era for popular music, and have a large music collection spanning those years. i love a great many artist from that era, and will sing their praises here, but.... people have a tendency to selectively remember things. for every great stevie wonder album released in the 70's, there was an air supply and a tony orlando and dawn album released. for every led zeppelin II, there were 2-3 lame-assed osmond brothers-defranco family albums released. if you listened to AM top 40 radio back then it was filled with some of the most insipid bullshit ever. i think some people do talk about the 70's as if every album released was on par with songs in the key of life, and they weren't. i worked at record stores, and for every classic great album, there were stacks and stacks of total shit. we just tend to forget all of that crap. You have a good point. But then again my generation has no Stevie Wonders or Led Zeppelins... just the insipid bullshit You beat me to it. The Stevie Wonders and Led Zeppelins of our generation, if they even exist, don't even get a shot. I graduated bitches!!! 12-19-09 | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: medoc2003 said: so, in my earlier post, i kind of sarcastically lampooned the tone of some of the commentary in the posts here. i understand where both schools are coming from.
i grew up in the 60's-70's-80's, and think the late 60's through the early-mid 80's were an incredible era for popular music, and have a large music collection spanning those years. i love a great many artist from that era, and will sing their praises here, but.... people have a tendency to selectively remember things. for every great stevie wonder album released in the 70's, there was an air supply and a tony orlando and dawn album released. for every led zeppelin II, there were 2-3 lame-assed osmond brothers-defranco family albums released. if you listened to AM top 40 radio back then it was filled with some of the most insipid bullshit ever. i think some people do talk about the 70's as if every album released was on par with songs in the key of life, and they weren't. i worked at record stores, and for every classic great album, there were stacks and stacks of total shit. we just tend to forget all of that crap. You have a good point. But then again my generation has no Stevie Wonders or Led Zeppelins... just the insipid bullshit Was just going to edit my above post to say this very thing. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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AquafineDream said: People can't handle truth when it stares them in the fucking face. It's human nature. Mock away, you're over 30 and you are not in step with the kids anymore. Deal with it and kill the excuses for why today's kids are "oh so lacking" -- I'm pretty sure your parents were saying the same things about your generation too. That's how it is. Own up to the fact that music has moved PAST you. Bait much? A.D.- I think if you toned down the hostility some of us might take you more seriously. It's the tone of all your comments about 30 plusers needing to accept "getting old", being left in the "Past" and not being able to handle truth when it "stares them in the fucking face". Clearly, something has crawled up your ass, and that's never fun for anyone, but maybe next time take it down a couple of notches if you want to get your point across. [Edited 8/15/06 13:42pm] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: at any rate: who wanna chip in on a cookie for this cat since that's basically all they're seeking here, as opposed to posting something of actual value to the forum?
*passing around the ashtray with some change in the bottom* yeah but its sparked what may well be the best post ever on the org (blaqueknight's post)... and i like the discussion going on...its deep. Space for sale... | |
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The problem of today's youngsters is that they are too ficke and so is the music industry, plus there is not much diversisty. | |
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whatsgoingon said: The problem of today's youngsters is that they are too ficke and so is the music industry, plus there is not much diversisty.
plus they keep throwing their ball in my yard, and that has got to STOP.  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 1. Its your generation's laziness and lack of discipline when it comes to learning music and how to play instruments that's responsible for the shitty whine-rock and beat-in-a-box bullshit hype-hop that gets regurgitated every hour on the radio. That is why music sucks today. 2. Corporate greed is what made Mtv what it is today. In our day, Mtv actually played music videos 24/7 instead of reality show after reality show of ordinary attention whores who are on t.v. - why? Because they have talent and star potential? No. Because the internet has fooled everyone into believing that they should; no, they deserve to be a star and adored by the world just because they came out of their mother's coochie. God forbid somebody tell you brats that you're not special. There's a two-hour long debate right there. 3. The 70s & 80s had some shite music as well but the worst of the 80s seems to be miles above the best of the current generation's music. Let's be honest here. There's no Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Luther Vandross, Sting, Patti LaBelle, Cameo, Gap Band, Funkadelic, Stevie Vai, David Lee Roth, Frankie Knuckles, Stanley Clarke, Isley Brothers, Def Leppard, Kate Bush, Herbie Hancock, Chic Corea and not even a Maddona coming out of today's music scene. There are some people with talent but the search for star quality has gone out the window with the onslaught of attention whores whose MySpace friends told them they should be the next big thing flooding the doorways of record labels. Technology is here but who cares? Why bother trying to be a REAL star when everybody is downloading your music for free and you can't perform without a damn track playing in the back and when you do you look like someone from a high school talent show? You can blame the generation before you for Mtv but in reality, the sorry-assed hype generation sucks because you sensitive little bitches can't take criticism. Everyone believes they are great these days. All they have to do is find enough opinions to support them. The truth is YOU SUCK and you're too lazy to get better, not interested enough to set goals, too cheap to go buy music, too self-centered to spend time on anything that doesn't involve you benefitting in some way and not honest enough with yourselves to realize that the world really doesn't give a damn about you. Yes, you're fat. No, you're not nearly as good as you think your are. No, you don't have "IT". Yes, you need to practice more. No, your opinion is NOT important to anyone else. No, you're not as pretty as "fill-in-the-celeb-name-blank" and even if you are it doesn't mean shit. You still can't sing. Yes, your guitar playing sucks and your songs are boring. No, rapping does not take as much talent as singing and your songs fade out because there's no melody to remember them by. Swallow on that reality, since you all like reality so much. That...is brilliant. Listen to me on The House of Pop Culture podcast on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/u...d438631917 | |
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