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subyduby

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1) According to biggest ever $890 million recording deal, signed in spring of 1991 by Mr. Jackson [MJJ Productions, Mijac Music, MJJ Ventures, Optimum Productions president] and Mr. Mottola [SME CEO; more from Epic and SNE were signers] with involvement of Akio Morita, Sony Corporation co-founder, only Mr. Jackson's MJJ Productions finances all album production. Mr. Rodney Jerkins, to whom also paid Mr. Jackson, twice officially denied absurd $30 million sum: "it was sum of totally another order" (AP and Vanity interviews).

2) SME's marketing spending also were no ever close to $25 ($30) million, speculated by media. It is easy to see it, if compare Invincible promotion level to HIStory (1995), which set record in this field with $32 million promotion. Then there special shows produced and paid by SME, huge international TV and cinema advertisement campaign, album cover, costing a million, huge statues and so on. There was no anything of that scale in Invincible campaign, so it costed dramatically less, than HIStory's one. No more than $15 million, probably.

3) SME wholesold more than 9 million copies of Invincible album (www.RodneyJerkins.com - this producer handles real information as he is co-author of many songs on the album and thus receives a certain author fee from every wholesale sold copy of his work). Of this quantity, 6.5 million copies were sold in retail, including 2 million in the USA. SME also wholesold more than 6 million copies of all old Mr. Jackson's albums, which were re-issued with additional tracks last year (estimation). This means (with taking into consideration all carriers and all medias) that Jackson generated up to $250 million revenue for SME and about $60 million personally for himself in last two months of 2001. Spending $5 for manufacturing, distributing and marketing per album (official industry average; IFPI data), SME had huge net profits, even with %40 net income tax. It can be seen also in Sony Corporation Q3 (Oct-Dec2001) report, where its music revenues and profits were up comparing to its competitors for that quarter, which suffered a lot.

4) After in late 2001 Mr. Jackson informed Mr. Mottola that he is not going to renew his contract, SME cancelled releases of all singles and videos from Invincible album: such as Unbreakable, Whatever Happens, Threatened, Speechless and Break Of Dawn. Mr. Jackson had huge artistic plans for videos. For example, Unbreakable minifilm was supposed to bring never-before-seen choreography by Mr. Jackson, new unique step methods and liquid movements, as well as new development of panoramic filming, presented in Matrix movie. By independent estimation, with those singles and videos release, wholesale shipments of Invincible could achieve 20-30 million in 2 years.

Mr. Jackson's financial state is huge and healthy:

1) recently he and Sony agreed to invest $157 million in purchase of additional assets (country music catalogue Accur-Rose). Sony/ATV Music Publishing is 50-50 owned enterprise, so this fact equals to almost $80 million of personal investments from Mr. Jackson. Simultaneously, Mr. Jackson and Sony both have denied that he owes anything to the company.

2) also recently Mr. Jackson announced $20 million investments in MDP Worldwide, independent cinema distributor.

3) on Saturday, 6 July, before he made his sensational allegations on Mr. Mottola in racism, Mr. Jackson answered briefly on his financial state. He said that just recently completed another financial transaction valued in about $500 million.

4) Mr. Jackson spent up to $30 million to built his Neverland Ranch and continues spend at least $10 million annually on just to maintain it (at least 70 people are engaged on regular basis). Please notice that this maintenance sum, $10 million, is often bigger than all other celebrities spend to buy their villas.

5) Jackson sold exclusive rights for worldwide broadcasting of his decade-record anniversary show in late 2001 to Viacom/CBS for up to $10 million (estimation), ticket sales for two concerts generated $21 million (boxoffice data).

6) Mr. Jackson's 50% share in Sony/ATV Music Publishing is valued in about $500 million (estimation) and earns him about $25 million per year (about $50 million totally; estimation). Also in 1995, when Mr. Jackson decided to merge his catalogue with Sony Music Publishing, SME paid him $110 million to have equal share in new entity (from 1995' NYT article with Mr. Jackson's comments).

7) During negotiations in spring of 1991, Sony Corporation estimated four Mr. Jackson private businesses and trademarks, including:
>MJJ Productions, which receives all _producer_ fees from every record sold or airplayed,
>Mijac Music Publishing, which receives all _author_ fees from every record sold or airplayed,
>Optimum Productions, which receives all _producer_ fees from every image, video sold or printed,
>MJJ Ventures, which receives all _author_ fees from every image, video sold or printed
- in value of $3 billion [with condition that Mr. Jackson will create albums in 15 years]. And this information initially came not from tabloids, it was from Japanese business press.

Under this 1991 contract, SME wholesold more than 115 million albums (Dangerous [1991]: 30m, HIStory Begins [1995; part of boxed set]: 20m, HIStory Continues [1995; part of boxed set]: 20m, BOTDF/HITM [1997]: 7m, Invincible [2001]: 10m and 30m of all older SME/Epic solo albums) and 30 million singles worldwide, generating total wholesale revenue more than $1,7 billion (all medias and carriers). This figure includes industry highest 25% is from wholesale price for Mr. Jackson. This means that he earned around $425 million ($42 million/year average) from his own music only from 1991 to present (tours, commercials, merchandise and single events like biggest paid cable concert ever - HBO'92, for which Jackson received $20 million, 2001' 30th Anniversary show, broadcasting rights for which Jackson sold for up to $10 million and the same sum from tickets sales - all are not included).

9) Jackson did two worldwide tours in 90s: Dangerous (uncompleted) and HIStory with cumulative attendance 7 million and revenue $300 million. With 30 million wholesale and 27 million retail sales, Dangerous album [1991] officially became the second biggest selling album all time by male singer, second after Thriller [1982]. Dangerous became also absolutely the fasted selling album of all time: SME wholesold more than 14 million albums in 5 weeks of December in 1991. Since that year, Thriller sales figure rose from 45/42 to 57/54 million to date. HIStory [1995] officially became the biggest selling boxed-set/double album ever, Blood On The Dance Floor/HIStory In The Mix [1997] - officially biggest selling remix album ever. Total Jackson's decade solo sales are about equal to Ms. Carey's and Mr. Garth Brooks.




This all information means that media speculations are completely ignorant and bears no other sense than to harm Mr. Jackson's public image in mean interest of general speculation about his "insincere participation in minority artists rights campaign".

Please use this information to maintain objective, fair view on Mr. Jackson, who is officially the biggest selling artist of all time (by IFPI).



According to Worldpop.com, whose journalist participated Harlem event on Tuesday, Mr. Jackson said that Invincible sales reached 10 million copies (up from 9million data of beginning of this year).
www.worldpop.com/news/new...ewsid=9793

No other music star was, is or will be ever able to reach such sales with only one video and single released (Butterflies had no video and was released only in the USA). And yet You Rock My World, the first single and video, were not best in their field comparing to other songs on Invincible, according to Mr. Jackson himself.

All the rest singles and videos, at least five international potential superhits with unique direction, choreography and special effects, all of this was cancelled since Mr.Jackson told to Mr. Mottola that he is not going to renew his contract, even though it is absolutely the biggest ($890 million) and probably the best ever (25% is from sales).

Why Jackson decided not to work longer with Mr. Mottola? This decision Mr. Jackson made BEFORE dispute troubles on album promotion and its sabotage, not after. It was even before that Mr. Mottola blocked release of "What More Can I Give" single (which was participated by more than 30 superstars) and still not allowed it to be released by other labels. Please research this question and maybe you will see that Mr. Jackson has sincere feelings on events that had place around Ms. Carey and Mr. Mottola's behavior to her, and also Mr. Mottola's actual attitude to unnamed black performer - all cases Mr. Jackson talked about this month and in June. The fact that Mr. Mottola sells many black artists and groups is completely separate from his actual attitude to them. And until now, Mr. Jackson was never caught on a lie; so his evidence is extremily reliable - the more son it is the first time ever when he "spoken out". He did not this even during 1993 molestation scandal.

People who know him for decades, name Mr.Jackson as "one of the most sincere and honest person I ever met in my life". Please note, that you will not find such comments on, for example, Sir MacCartney, Elvis Presley, John Lennon etc.



It looks as absurd and fabricated lie in favor of Sony that "Jackson's advisors were the ones who asked Sony Music to abandon the singer's charity single". If so, then why Jackson kept talking about in interviews and working on it long after than November, 15 when his people sent a breaking letter to Schafel? Why Jackson is still wants to release it and blames Sony for blocking it?

End every media is repeating this. In many articles, "Invincible costed $30 million to produce", multidenied by album's co-producer Mr. Jerkins speculation, already turned to be Sony's expenses, while initially those were supposed to be Jackson's ones. Then it was intendent to show that Mr. Jackson is bankrupt, now it is intended to show that it is Sony who suffered from losses on invincible. People need to know that only Mr. Jacksons finances all album production and therefore owns all rights on his albums and songs, receiving not only author and performer fees, but also producer fees. People need to know that Sony received huge net profits from 10m copies Invincible and 6m copies of reissued old albums and company's decision to cancell promotion has nothing to do with albums' "unsuccess".

Is not this that "conspiracy", that each time deliberately turns every speculation, whatever it is, in exactly the form that harms Jackson the most?
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Reply #1 posted 08/06/02 10:42pm

shygirl

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Who gives a rat's ass.
Which is, by the way, what Michael Jackson looks like now.
BTW, did you hear that MJ and his good friend, the gay porn producer, are getting together for a new project?
Look for it soon on a kiddie porn site near you. lol
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/02 10:45pm

Supernova

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shygirl said:

Who gives a rat's ass.

Indeed. I don't think most people are going to read all of that at this site.

Which is, by the way, what Michael Jackson looks like now.

lollollollollollollol
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/02 11:17pm

subyduby

shygirl said:

Who gives a rat's ass.
Which is, by the way, what Michael Jackson looks like now.
BTW, did you hear that MJ and his good friend, the gay porn producer, are getting together for a new project?
Look for it soon on a kiddie porn site near you. lol



i do.
it's better than discussing mindless discussions of how he looks. it's all about the money, babe.
go now, you worry about his face and his personal life.

it is long but it is fasinating to know the other sides of the story.
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/02 11:54pm

Eobad2

MICHAEL RULES, THANKS FOR DEFENDING MICHAEL ON THIS NEGATIVE SITE, MICHAEL IS THE BEST, THE KING OF POP.
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Reply #5 posted 08/07/02 12:29am

CmputrBlu

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YAWN..wake me when this has something to do with Prince.
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Reply #6 posted 08/07/02 4:47am

Brother915

Thanks subyduby. Interesting stuff.

Good Morning to ALL the orgers this morning!!!
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Reply #7 posted 08/07/02 5:54am

mistermaxxx

yep thanks very well Broken down.Peace
mistermaxxx
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Reply #8 posted 08/07/02 12:02pm

Eobad2

INFORMATIVE ARTICLE, LET'S IGNORE THE NEGATIVITY, THE KING OF POP RULES
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Reply #9 posted 08/07/02 12:19pm

MyLittlePill

in recent news subyduby can take a flying poop
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Reply #10 posted 08/07/02 1:18pm

MyLittlePill

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Reply #11 posted 08/07/02 1:48pm

subyduby

Eobad2 said:

INFORMATIVE ARTICLE, LET'S IGNORE THE NEGATIVITY, THE KING OF POP RULES



thank-you! smile
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Reply #12 posted 08/07/02 1:48pm

subyduby

MyLittlePill said:




don't be jealous that ur prince gets hardly any notice.
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Reply #13 posted 08/07/02 5:02pm

MyLittlePill

subyduby said:

MyLittlePill said:




don't be jealous that ur prince gets hardly any notice.


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Reply #14 posted 08/07/02 5:03pm

MyLittlePill

subyduby said:

1) According to biggest ever $890 million recording deal, signed in spring of 1991 by Mr. Jackson [MJJ Productions, Mijac Music, MJJ Ventures, Optimum Productions president] and Mr. Mottola [SME CEO; more from Epic and SNE were signers] with involvement of Akio Morita, Sony Corporation co-founder, only Mr. Jackson's MJJ Productions finances all album production. Mr. Rodney Jerkins, to whom also paid Mr. Jackson, twice officially denied absurd $30 million sum: "it was sum of totally another order" (AP and Vanity interviews).

2) SME's marketing spending also were no ever close to $25 ($30) million, speculated by media. It is easy to see it, if compare Invincible promotion level to HIStory (1995), which set record in this field with $32 million promotion. Then there special shows produced and paid by SME, huge international TV and cinema advertisement campaign, album cover, costing a million, huge statues and so on. There was no anything of that scale in Invincible campaign, so it costed dramatically less, than HIStory's one. No more than $15 million, probably.

3) SME wholesold more than 9 million copies of Invincible album (www.RodneyJerkins.com - this producer handles real information as he is co-author of many songs on the album and thus receives a certain author fee from every wholesale sold copy of his work). Of this quantity, 6.5 million copies were sold in retail, including 2 million in the USA. SME also wholesold more than 6 million copies of all old Mr. Jackson's albums, which were re-issued with additional tracks last year (estimation). This means (with taking into consideration all carriers and all medias) that Jackson generated up to $250 million revenue for SME and about $60 million personally for himself in last two months of 2001. Spending $5 for manufacturing, distributing and marketing per album (official industry average; IFPI data), SME had huge net profits, even with %40 net income tax. It can be seen also in Sony C
orporation Q3 (Oct-Dec2001) report, where its music revenues and profits were up comparing to its competitors for that quarter, which suffered a lot.

4) After in late 2001 Mr. Jackson informed Mr. Mottola that he is not going to renew his contract, SME cancelled releases of all singles and videos from Invincible album: such as Unbreakable,
Whatever Happens, Threatened, Speechless and Break Of Dawn. Mr. Jackson had huge artistic plans for videos. For example, Unbreakable minifilm was supposed to bring never-before-seen choreography by Mr. Jackson,
new unique step methods and liquid movements, as well as new development of panoramic filming, presented in Matrix movie. By independent estimation, with those singles and videos release, wholesale shipments of Invincible could achieve 20-30 million in 2 years.

Mr. Jackson's financial state is huge and healthy:

1) recently he and Sony agreed to invest $157 million in purchase of additional assets (country music catalogue Accur-Rose). Sony/ATV
Music Publishing is 50-50 owned enterprise, so this fact equals to almost $80 million of personal investments from Mr. Jackson. Simultaneously, Mr. Jackson and Sony both have denied that he owes anything to the company.

2) also recently Mr. Jackson announced $20 million investments in MDP Worldwide, independent cinema distributor.

3) on Saturday, 6 July, before he made his sensational allegations on Mr. Mottola in racism, Mr. Jackson answered briefly on his financial state. He said that just recently completed another financial transaction valued in about $500 million.

4) Mr. Jackson spent up to $30 million to built his Neverland Ranch and continues spend at least $10 million annually on just to maintain it (at least 70 people are engaged on regular basis). Please notice that this maintenance sum, $10 million, is often bigger than all other celebrities spend to buy their villas.

5) Jackson sold exclusive rights for worldwide broadcasting of his decade-record anniversary show in late 2001 to Viacom/CBS for up to $10 million (estimation), ticket sales for two concerts generated $21 million (boxoffice data).

6) Mr. Jackson's 50% share in Sony/ATV Music Publishing is valued in about $500 million (estimation) and earns him about $25 million per year (about $50 million totally; estimation). Also in 1995, when Mr. Jackson decided to merge his catalo
gue with Sony Music Publishing, SME paid him $110 million to have equal share in new entity (from 1995' NYT article with Mr. Jackson's comments).

7) During negotiations in spring of 1991, Sony Corporation estimated four Mr. Jackson private businesses and trademarks, including:
>MJJ Produc
tions, which receives all _producer_ fees from every record sold or airplayed,
>Mijac Music Publishing, which receives all _author_ fees from every record sold or airplayed,
>Optimum Productions, which receives all _producer_ fees from every image, video sold or printed,
>MJJ Ventures, which receives all _author_ fees from every image, video sold or printed
- in value of $3 billion [with condition that Mr. Jackson will create albums in 15 years]. And this information initially came not from tabloids, it was from Japanese business press.

Under this 1991 contract, SME wholesold more than 115 million albums (Dangerous [1991]: 30m, HIStory Begins [1995; part of boxed set]: 20m, HIStory Continues [1995; part of boxed set]: 20m, BOTDF/HITM [1997]: 7m, Invincible [2001]: 10m and 30m of all older SME/Epic solo albums) and 30 million singles worldwide, generating total wholesale revenue more than $1,7 billion (all medias and carriers). This figure includes industry highest 25% is from wholesale price for Mr. Jackson. This means that he earned around $425 million ($4
2 million/year average) from his own music only from 1991 to present (tours, commercials, merchandise and single events like biggest paid cable concert ever - HBO'92, for which Jackson received $20 million, 2001' 30th Anniversary show, broadcasting rights for which Jackson sold for up to $10 million and the same sum from tickets sales - all are not included).

9) Jackson did two worldwide tours in 90s: Dangerous (uncompleted) and HIStory with cumulative attendance 7 million and re
venue $300 million. With 30 million wholesale and 27 million retail sales, Dangerous album [1991] officially became the second biggest selling album all time by male singer, second after Thriller [1982]. Dangerous became also absolutely the fasted selling album of all time: SM
E wholesold more than 14 million albums in 5 weeks of December in 1991. Since that year, Thriller sales figure rose from 45/42 to 57/54 million to date. HIStory [1995] officially became the biggest selling boxed-set/double album ever, Blood On The Dance Floor/HIStory In The Mix [1997] - officially biggest selling remix album ever. Total Jackson's decade solo sales are about equal to Ms. Carey's and Mr. Garth Brooks.




This all information means that media speculations are completely ignorant and bears no other sense than to harm Mr. Jackson's public image in mean interest of general speculation about his "insincere participation in minority artists rights campaign".

Please use this information to maintain objective, fair view on Mr. Jackson, who is officially the biggest selling artist of all time (by IFPI).



According to Worldpop.com, whose journalist participated Harlem event on Tuesday, Mr. Jackson said that Invincible sales reached 10 million copies (up from 9million data of beginning of this year).
www.worldpop.com/news/new...ewsid=9793

No other music star was, is or will be ever able to reach such sales with only one video and single released (Butterflies had no video and was released only in the USA
). And yet You Rock My World, the first single and video, were not best in their field comparing to other songs on Invincible, according to Mr. Jackson himself.

All the rest singles and videos, at least five international potential superhits with unique direction, choreography and special effects, all of this was cancelled since
Mr.Jackson told to Mr. Mottola that he is not going to renew his contract, even though it is absolutely the biggest ($890 million) and probably the best ever (25% is from sales).

Why Jackson decided not to work longer with Mr. Mottola? This decision Mr. Jackson made BEFORE dispute troubles on album promot
ion and its sabotage, not after. It was even before that Mr. Mottola blocked release of "What More Can I Give" single (which was participated by more than 30 superstars) and still not allowed it to be released by other labels. Please re
search this question and maybe you will see that Mr. Jackson has sincere feelings on events that had place around Ms. Carey and Mr. Mottola's behavior to her, and also Mr. Mottola's actual attitude to unnamed black performer - al
l cases Mr. Jackson talked about this month and in June. The fact that Mr. Mottola sells many black artists and groups is co
mpletely separate from his actual attitude to them. And until now, Mr. Jackson was never caught on a lie; so his evidence is extremily reliable - the more son it is the first time ever when he "spoken out". He did not this even during 1993 molestation scandal.

People who know him for decades, name Mr.Jackson as "one of the most sincere and honest person I ever met in my life". Please note, t
hat you will not find such comments on, for example, Sir MacCartney, Elvis Presley, John Lennon etc.



It looks as absurd and fabricated lie in favor of Sony that "Jackson's advisors were the ones who asked Sony Music to aba
ndon the singer's charity single". If so, then why Jackson kept talking about in interviews and working on it long after than November, 15 when his people sent a breaking letter to Schafel? Why Jackson is still wants to release it and blames Sony for blocking it?

End every media is repeating this. In many articles, "Invincible costed $30 million to produce", multidenied by album's co-producer Mr. Jerkins speculation, already turn
ed to be Sony's expenses, while initially those were supposed to be Jackson's ones. Then it was intendent to show that Mr. Ja
ckson is bankrupt, now it is intended to show that it is Sony who suffered from losses on invincible. People need to know that only Mr. Jacksons finances all album production and therefore owns all rights on his albums and songs, receiving not only author and performer fees, but also producer fees.
People need to know that Sony received huge net profits from 10m copies Invincible and 6m copies of reissued old albums and company's decision to cancell promotion has nothing to do with albums' "unsuccess".

Is not this that "conspiracy", that each time deliberately turns every speculat
ion, whatever it is, in exactly the form that harms Jackson the most?
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MyLittlePill

plus you spelled business wrong. FOOLS!
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