emm said:

There are 12 steps programs for people who want help Emm

purplerein said:

maybe he doesn't think he needs help?

if david lee roth and motley crue and that little purple sex god guy can brag about all the hot sexy women they've bagged, why can't a gay rock star do the same thing? of course, i'd aim a little higher than an old fat jobless guy in a van...though i'm sure he had a delightful personality and whatnot.

Anx said:

Maybe he had talents that went beyond his appearance

purplerein said:

maybe he was hung like easter island.

The pair kissed and groped each other before going even further. It was all in a public place and totally illegal — just like the day in 1998 when George flashed at an undercover cop in a California park toilet.

Maybe that's the problem. Nevermind the celebrity status, but why should gay men be forced to find sex or love in parks after hours? If this were a man and a woman, I suppose it wouldn't be as shocking, newsworthy, or revolting to some people.

Straight couples meet and fondle in public ALL THE TIME, right out in the open. Maybe the crime here is being gay! The act sets us back, like, 20 years as it has always been the cultural "norm" to the gay community. But, it appears equal rights and acceptance of any form of gay intimacy was all a dream. In 2006, we are still having to troll the bushes, hide and go sex, and be ashamed for seeking love, intimacy, or sex. Nothing has changed, nor has George Michael.

(And the reporters have nothing to do but follow George and his tricks around when there is so much political corruption and better things to report???)

purpleunderground said:

It's because he's a celebrity, not because he's gay at all. Oh dear.

If he was nobody, this thread wouldt't exist. It's celebrity scandal, straight stars are hounded just as much for scandal. Kate Moss is followed every freakin' day by the paparazzi. She's a straight female.

LleeLlee said:

yeah, but prince gets caught screwing mayte in a movie theater and everyone thinks it's cute and sexy. he's reported fooling around in a cemetary and people think he's "mysterious". george michael tries that kind of thing in the relative privacy of cruising areas and it's a big scandal.

i can kinda see both points, i guess.

Anx said:

"Sex in public places is an imposition on the public, no matter what your orientation is"..Paul "PeeWee Herman" Reubens address to the Court

purplerein said:

and people STILL think he's a pedophile.

if he had the public image of being some virile straight studmuffin, the porn theater incident would have been laughed off.

Anx said:

Paul Reubens as a virile straight studmuffin.

(i think he also was arrested for having some child porn as part of an extensive antique porn collection...the actor who played the principal in Ferris Beuller's day off was also arrested at the same time ((i think)) )

Anx said:

I understand it can be construed as George Michael being victimised because he's gay, BUT Stan Collymore was all over the newspapers for a similar thing (in a public park) but with other male/female couples. Politicians have resigned over sex scandals, you could argue that what a politician does in his private life is his affair and not a public matter, but still they lose thier jobs. The tabloids thrive on them.

What about the Hugh Grant scandal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ex_scandal

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I think that there's more to it than just George prowling for sex. I think he's abusing drugs and they are taking over his person. He is acting erratic and crazy.

Or, Mid-life crisis anyone?


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Fucking in parks is hot. Shut up.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I get that. I do. I just think any type of non-consent is immoral, and to me, an innocent bystander who may happen upon something like that, gay, straight, what have you, flirts with non-consent. It's a bit like someone flashing you in the street. Granted if you're wandering around a known crusing area at 2am, you shouldn't be surprised by what you may see... But then again, if it's a public space, it's a public space and certain rules of decorum should be abided. I don't know. I just know I don't like it.

Maybe we need adult 'theme' parks, so this kind of thing can happen in the open without the chance of strangers wandering into the scenario.

£100 a ticket for his concert!!!!
Its not just a jobless van driver he's fuckin up the arse.

purplerein said:

i remember that story. but i don't think it was child porn in the end. it was vintage porn or something like that. it seems that the police were making an example of him. i don't remember the full story however

HereToRockYourWorld said:

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CarrieMpls said:

Well, THAT would be no fun.

Seriously, I really get your point about non-consent. I think it's a good one.

I guess I just feel like the whole idea of somebody happening upon two people having sex in a park being such a traumatic thing comes from the idea that sex/sexuality (espeically gay sex, but most people would feel this way about straight sex too) is dirty and disgusting and something that has to be hidden.

People fuck! They eat and poo and laugh and cry and FUCK! Who cares.

I think I had a big crush on him at one point.

Krystal666 said:

i think everybody did. me and my sister still loves george. i didn't know he was going on tour. if i could afford extra shit, we'd go

Krystal666 said:

Me too, I loved Wham

I think he's a talented song writer.

I wonder if he sang "I'm your man," to the van guy.


Call me good
Call me bad
Call me anything you want to baby
But I know that you're sad
And I know I'll make you happy
With the one thing that you never had

Baby, I'm your man (don't you know that?)
Baby, I'm your man
You bet!
If you're gonna do it, do it right - right?
Do it with me

So good...
You're divine
Wanna take you, wanna make you
But they tell me it's a crime!
Everybody knows where the good people go
But where we're going baby
Ain't no such word as no!

Baby, I'm your man (don't you know who I am?)
Baby, I'm your man
You bet!
If you're gonna do it, do it right - right?
Do it with me
Come on baby, (ooh, take me home
Please don't leave me here, to do it on my own...)

First class information
I'll be your sexual inspiration
And with some stimulation
We can do it right...

So why waste time
With the other guys?
When you can have mine
I ain't askin' for no sacrifice
Baby your friends do not need to know!
I've got a real nice place to go

Listen,
I don't need you to care
I don't need you to understand
All I want is for you to be there
And when I'm turned on
If you want me-
I'm your man!

If you're gonna do it, do it right - right?
Do it with me

Now listen
If you're gonna do it - you know what I say?
If you're gonna do it don't throw it away
Don't throw it baby
Because
I'll be your boy, I'll be your man
I'll be the one who understands
I'll be your first, I'll be your last
I'll be the only one you ask
I'll be your friend, I'll be your toy
I'll be the one who brings you joy
I'll be your hope, I'll be your pearl
I'll take you halfway 'round the world!
I'll make you rich - I'll make you poor
Just don't use the door

Do it with me...





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brownsugar said:

I was the oddball. I was in love love love with Andrew Ridgley especially on the EVERYTHING SHE WANTS VIDEO.


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HereToRockYourWorld said:

But I don't want to walk in on anyone going poo either!

CarrieMpls said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

That is my personal nightmare, someone walking in on me poo-ing.


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purpleunderground said:

FINALLY someone pointed it out! FOr me GM can do whatever. He should be be aware now that he is being followed. It's not like reporters are just coming across this story. They are following him and stalking his tricks.

And THAT is more disgusting than what GM did.

superspaceboy said:

see whut I meann? sho some luv for GM let a man have some Funn he be tormented enuff enyway

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

oh man now i want to hear that

LleeLlee said:

Ever seen the video for "Outside," which he did after the incident in the park restroom? Although, to be fair, I think it was also done -- at least in part -- for reasons of damage control.

CarrieMpls said:

I think law enforcement's response to it is homophobic, though. I used to be Catholic, and the priest at my church for most of those years got busted in a sting operation in the men's room at a rest area on Interstate 70. Yet I suspect that if the police caught me and Jess engaging in similar conduct at that same rest area, we'd probably just be told to leave and take it somewhere else.