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The Graying of the Record Store

This is from the NY Times. Good Article about Record Stores and how no one is going to be using them because of IPODS.


The Graying of the Record Store


By ALEX WILLIAMS
Published: July 16, 2006


SO this is an evening rush?


Norman Isaacs of Norman's Sound and Vision remembers jam-packed
aisles, but he has moved with the times. He sells used CD's on the
Web.
On a recent Monday, six people - soon enough four, then two - were
browsing the bins of compact discs at Norman's Sound and Vision, a
music store on Cooper Square in Manhattan, around 6 p.m., a time that
once constituted the daily rush hour. A decade ago, the number of
shoppers might have been 20 or 30, said Norman Isaacs, the owner. Six
people? He would have had that many working in the store.


"I used to make more in a day than I probably make in a week now,"
said the shaven-headed Mr. Isaacs, 59, whose largely empty aisles
brimming with punk, jazz, Latin music, and lots and lots of classic
rock have left him, many afternoons, looking like a rock 'n' roll
version of the Maytag repairman. Just as troubling to Mr. Isaacs is the
age of his clientele.


"It's much grayer," he said mournfully.


The neighborhood record store was once a clubhouse for teenagers, a
place to escape parents, burn allowances and absorb the latest trends
in fashion as well as music. But these days it is fast becoming a
temple of nostalgia for shoppers old enough to remember "Frampton
Comes Alive!''


In the era of iTunes and MySpace, the customer base that still thinks
of recorded music as a physical commodity (that is, a CD), as opposed
to a digital file to be downloaded, is shrinking and aging, further
imperiling record stores already under pressure from mass-market
discounters like Best Buy and Wal-Mart.


The bite that downloading has taken out of CD sales is well known -
the compact disc market fell about 25 percent between 1999 and 2005,
according to the Recording Industry Association of America, a trade
organization. What that precipitous drop indicated by the figures
doesn't reveal is that this trend is turning many record stores into
haunts for the gray-ponytail set. This is especially true of big-city
stores that stock a wider range of music than the blockbuster acts.


"We don't see the kids anymore," said Thom Spennato, who owns
Sound Track, a cozy store on busy Seventh Avenue in Park Slope,
Brooklyn. "That 12-to-15-year-old market, that's what's missing
the last couple of years."


Without that generation of buyers, the future looks bleak. "My
landlord asked me if I wanted another 10-year lease, and I said no,"
Mr. Spennato said. "I have four years left, then I'm out."


Since late 2003, about 900 independent record stores have closed
nationwide, leaving about 2,700, according to the Almighty Institute of
Music Retail, a marketing research company in Studio City, Calif. In
2004, Tower Records, one of the nation's largest chains, filed for
bankruptcy protection.


Greta Perr, an owner of Future Legends, a new and used CD store on
Ninth Avenue in Hell's Kitchen, said that young people never really
came back to her store after the Napster file-sharing upheaval of the
late 90's; she has responded by filling her windows with artists like
Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. "People come in and say: 'I
remember when I was 20, Steve Miller's second record came out. Can I
get that?' " she said.


Industry statistics bear out the graying of the CD-buying public.
Purchases by shoppers between ages 15 and 19 represented 12 percent of
recorded music in 2005, a decline from about 17 percent in 1996,
according to the Recording Industry Association. Purchases by those 20
to 24 represented less than 13 percent in 2005, down from about 15
percent. Over the same period, the share of recorded music bought by
adults over 45 rose to 25.5 percent, from 15 percent.


(The figures include CD's and downloaded songs, with CD's still an
overwhelming share of the market in recorded music, 87 percent, in
2005.)


The dominance of older buyers is especially evident at smaller
independent stores in metropolitan areas, where younger consumers tend
to be more tech-oriented and older music fans tend to be more esoteric
in their tastes, said Russ Crupnick, an analyst with the NPD Group, a
market research firm.


At Norman's, which is 15 years old and just around the corner from
New York's epicenter of punk, St. Marks Place, shoppers with nose
rings and dewy cheeks are not unknown. But they may only be looking to
use the automatic teller machine. A pair of teenagers - he with
ink-black dyed hair, and she in ragged camouflage shorts - wandered
in one evening recently and promptly froze in the doorway, stopped in
their tracks by an Isaac Hayes cut from the 70's.


They had the confused looks of would-be congregants who had stumbled
into a church of the wrong denomination; they quickly shuffled off.
Most of Norman's other customers were old enough to remember
eight-track tapes. Steven Russo, 53, for instance, was looking for jazz
CD's. Mr. Russo, a high school teacher in Valley Stream, N.Y., said
that he values the store for its sense of camaraderie among cognoscenti
as much as its selection. "It's the ability of people to talk to
people about the music, to talk to personnel who are knowledgeable,"
he said.


Richard Antone, a freelance writer from Newark whose hair was flecked
with silver curls, said his weekly trip to the store is a visual
experience as well as an auditory one. "I remember how people admired
the artwork on an album like 'Electric Ladyland' or 'Sgt.
Pepper' as much as the music," he said.


The lost generation of young shoppers - for whom a CD is a silvery
disc on which you burn your own songs and then label with a black
marker - will probably spell doom for Norman's within the next five
years, said Mr. Isaacs, the owner. Several of his downtown competitors
have already disappeared, he said.


Some independent owners are resisting the demographic challenges. Eric
Levin, 36, who owns three Criminal Records stores in Atlanta and
oversees a trade group called the Alliance of Independent Media Stores,
representing 30 shops nationally, said that businesses losing young
customers are "dinosaurs" that have done nothing to cater to the
new generation. Around the country, he said, shops like Grimey's in
Nashville, Shake It Records in Cincinnati and Other Music in New York
are hanging on to young customers by evolving into one-stop hipster
emporiums. Besides selling obscure CD's and even vinyl records, many
have diversified into comic books, Japanese robot toys and clothing.
Some have opened adjoining nightclubs or, in Mr. Levin's case, coffee
shops.


"Kids don't have to go to the record store like earlier
generations," Mr. Levin said. "You have to make them want to. You
have to make it an event."


But diversification is not always an option for smaller stores with
little extra space, like Norman's. Mr. Isaacs's continued survival
is due in part to a side business he runs selling used CD's on Amazon
and eBay. He buys them from walk-in customers who are often dumping
entire collections.


Unlike the threatened independent bookstore, with its tattered rugs,
dusty shelves and shedding cats, indie record stores in danger of
disappearing do not inspire much hand-wringing, perhaps because they
are not as celebrated in popular imagination as the quaint bookshop.
(Record geeks can claim only "High Fidelity,'' the book and
movie, as a nostalgic touchstone.)


Still, the passing of such places would be mourned.


Danny Fields, the Ramones' first manager, points out that visiting
Bleecker Bob's on West Third Street in the late 70's was "like
experiencing the New York music scene" in miniature - it was a
cultural locus, a trading post for all the latest punk trends.
"Dropping into Bleecker Bob's was like dropping into CBGB's,"
he said. (You can still drop into Bleecker Bob's.)


Dave Marsh, the rock critic and author of books on popular music, noted
that rockers like Jonathan Richman and Iggy Pop honed their edgy
musical tastes working as record store clerks.


"It's part of the transmission of music," said Mr. Marsh, who
recalls being turned on to cult bands like the Fugs and the Mothers of
Invention by the clerks at his local record store in his hometown,
Waterford, Mich. "It seems like you can't have a neighborhood
without them."
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Reply #1 posted 07/20/06 7:01am

Graycap23

I thought I had purchased some STOCK that I did NOT know about.....I don't like that use of the word Gray. Should be Grey.
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Reply #2 posted 07/20/06 1:23pm

prettymansson

i used to buy all my old funk cds from normans when i lived in the east village..sad... neutral
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Reply #3 posted 07/21/06 1:45am

BorisFishpaw

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sad but true.
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Reply #4 posted 07/21/06 3:10am

NouveauDance

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Well, if they are ushering in digital delivery of music and other commercial entertainment, there's inevitably gonna be blowback to the outlets of the older methods of delivery and sale.

Surfing iTunes isn't as fun as leafing through the stacks of old records though in some old 2nd hand record store and finding a gem for an absolute steal or buying a record just because you like the artwork and discovering it's a kick-ass LP to boot.

I'd rather support these kind of independent stores than giant chains like HMV or Virgin because these big chains stock so very little - their singles departments have all but disappeared, and their back catalogue choice of a lot of artists is pathetic.
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Reply #5 posted 07/21/06 5:30am

KoolEaze

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Graycap23 said:

I thought I had purchased some STOCK that I did NOT know about.....I don't like that use of the word Gray. Should be Grey.



I already asked someone else about this on another thread ( about Prince dying his hair) but unfortunately didn´t get an answer.

Why should it be "grey" instead of "gray"? Are you British and do you mean that the British version is the only version that´s correct, or are you an American who finds the British way to spell it more logical and correct ?

I´m just curious because I always want to learn as much as possible about your language(s) ( all versions, AUS/UK/USA/CAN/SA/NZ etc.) .

I know Greyhound is spelled /spelt with an "e" but that´s a name.



Anyway, to stay on topic, I also much rather buy my CDs and vinyl at old, privately owned record stores , big places like HMV and the likes don´t even stock most of the albums of mainstream artists, let alone underground stuff. I couldn´t even get Off The Wall the other day( don´t have it on CD)....


Downloading stuff is not the same as buying a real product with liner notes , booklet, album art etc.
[Edited 7/21/06 5:36am]
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #6 posted 07/21/06 6:48am

Giovanni777

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Tragic.

As the form cheapens, so does the music, as we've seen in every genre.

It's become a fast-food market, and the concept of an album (a body of work) may be endangered as well.

I mean, going 2 the record store was a dream 4 me, when I was a kid. It was just as magical as going 2 the music store, except I knew I could afford at least a couple of records... the music store was 4 dreaming about and playing guitars I couldn't afford.

Musical exploration with an endless insatiable hunger drove me 2 obscure jazz, like the harmolodic stuff, and the jazz-funk of Defunkt, etc. 2 Obscure Blues, and West African music... 2 FUNK... JB, Sly, Parliament.

2 every 1 of Stevie Wonder's albums... 2 every 1 of Prince's albums, and 12" extended versions, and B-Sides.

Rushing home, clutching my bag of records, running through the door, and upstairs 2 my room, and hastily tearing the plastic off the cover, 2 pull out the vinyl, and lay it on the turntable. It was like nearly life or death 2 hear the records I got on any given day. Multiply that by ten when it was a new Prince record or 12"...

Kids today do not know what they're missing.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #7 posted 07/21/06 7:18am

prettymansson

Giovanni777 said:

Tragic.

As the form cheapens, so does the music, as we've seen in every genre.

It's become a fast-food market, and the concept of an album (a body of work) may be endangered as well.

I mean, going 2 the record store was a dream 4 me, when I was a kid. It was just as magical as going 2 the music store, except I knew I could afford at least a couple of records... the music store was 4 dreaming about and playing guitars I couldn't afford.

Musical exploration with an endless insatiable hunger drove me 2 obscure jazz, like the harmolodic stuff, and the jazz-funk of Defunkt, etc. 2 Obscure Blues, and West African music... 2 FUNK... JB, Sly, Parliament.

2 every 1 of Stevie Wonder's albums... 2 every 1 of Prince's albums, and 12" extended versions, and B-Sides.

Rushing home, clutching my bag of records, running through the door, and upstairs 2 my room, and hastily tearing the plastic off the cover, 2 pull out the vinyl, and lay it on the turntable. It was like nearly life or death 2 hear the records I got on any given day. Multiply that by ten when it was a new Prince record or 12"...

Kids today do not know what they're missing.


I can dig it...that was me too...studying the album covers...Hell, I even used to take my J5 album covers to school with me... lol Its a new world...
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Reply #8 posted 07/21/06 7:25am

vainandy

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Well, someone didn't tell the thugs in my area about this because that's mostly what I see when I go to the record store. Computers still cost too much so it's going to be a while before the record stores see their last days.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #9 posted 07/21/06 7:32am

Anx

i used to shop at normans when i lived in NYC, too. nod

i still drop in whenever i visit, but i drop the most change at Mondo Kim's just around the corner because they have more rare stuff that you can't even find on iTunes or on the Web in general. that's the way to keep a record store open. in new york city, shops like Kim's and Other Music will survive because they serve a niche clientele who couldn't buy the music they like over the web even if they wanted to.
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Reply #10 posted 07/21/06 9:09am

Tom

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Hearing people lament over CD's, doesn't that make you feel older than dirt? LOL
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Reply #11 posted 07/21/06 10:56am

TMPletz

I used to do treasure-hunting weekends in the Minneapolis area while I was in college. I had my list of Prince records and what I needed, and most of the time I would score at least a couple of records. Ah...those were the days.

I find it hilarious that some music stores are still referred to as record stores even though they haven't sold a record in 20 years if ever. lol
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Reply #12 posted 07/21/06 10:37pm

brownsugar

gd? confuse
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Reply #13 posted 07/21/06 10:50pm

RipHer2Shreds

This is a music discussion. Why the hell was it moved?
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Reply #14 posted 07/21/06 10:56pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

RipHer2Shreds said:

This is a music discussion. Why the hell was it moved?


Can't tell ya but I adore ya and will see you in some 14 weeks!
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Reply #15 posted 07/21/06 11:00pm

RipHer2Shreds

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

This is a music discussion. Why the hell was it moved?


Can't tell ya but I adore ya and will see you in some 14 weeks!

woot! Not long now! hug
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Reply #16 posted 07/22/06 4:53am

Anx

[moving to fan gatherings]
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Reply #17 posted 07/22/06 5:07am

Moonbeam

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I hate the digital age. sad
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #18 posted 07/22/06 6:43am

prettymansson

Anx said:

i used to shop at normans when i lived in NYC, too. nod

i still drop in whenever i visit, but i drop the most change at Mondo Kim's just around the corner because they have more rare stuff that you can't even find on iTunes or on the Web in general. that's the way to keep a record store open. in new york city, shops like Kim's and Other Music will survive because they serve a niche clientele who couldn't buy the music they like over the web even if they wanted to.

i agree...kims video section is pretty awesome too !!! wink
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Reply #19 posted 07/22/06 8:17am

guitarslinger4
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Great article! I was going to mention Criminal Records here in Atlanta. They STILL have tons of kids, guys in bands, hipsters, etc coming in. It IS like taking the pulse of the scene here. I think the immediacy of being able to download something off of iTunes whenever you want is nice but for true music fans, it will never be able to compete with having a physical album in your hand.

On another note, I was in this record store outside the city a couple weeks ago, and they had this kiosk in there that was hooked up to iTunes. It had Firewire and USB ports on it so you could just buy something off of iTunes right there in the store and download it to your iPod! Anyone else seen one of these?
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Reply #20 posted 07/22/06 9:58am

RipHer2Shreds

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[moving to fan gatherings]

fishslap lol
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