TonyVanDam said:

Yeah, the men can be b*tches too but since we were talking about women I was refering to them. But when guys--and female rappers--have beef they put it in a song and rhyme about it. That's just a b*tchy, if not moreso.

JackieBlue said:

Most of the time indeed .
Apart from those sad moments where the guns replaced the talking .
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[Edited 7/14/06 7:34am]

RipHer2Shreds said:

agreed.

And Jackie, I feel you but men do this stuff ALL the time. there' always a beef. LL and Jamie foxx just "made up", Nas and Jay, Fifty and anybody.


I really can't speak on if Mary has been rude or not but if you stick ya hand in front of me as if you want me to kiss it, I'll become a little "rude" with the quickness.

goat2004 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Ditto. I agree
[Edited 7/14/06 9:09am]

Dewrede said:

co-sign

AlexdeParis said:

I feel the same. Came someone please help her with dressing.

Rhondab said:

I don't feel Mary J's music either.
I'm my self, maybe tha't why we don't hear Christina on black radio. I've always wondered, I think now I know.

CHIC0 said:

iceblueangel2007 said:

I like some of Mary's music, I just don't follow her career that closely. I think Christina hasn't presented herself like a Teena Marie. She was too busy trying to be a pop princess and compete with Brit. She could have really gone the way of Mariah who gets love on urban stations.

Dewrede said:

Co-co sign.

I loved the radio stations in the early 80's when music was music regardless of the color or style of music. Christina's has a wonderful voice and is so gifted, she could target an R&b audience if she wanted to...I think she would like to reach Mariah carey status, but its really hurting her in terms of sales.

Don't U guys think that if Beyonce came out with the same song "Aint no other man" and had Jay Z rapping on it, black radio would be all over it? Anyway, just something 2 think about. I'm gonna invest in my first Christina Aguleria CD, LOL I could give a rats ass about her attitude, they all act like diva's - its just the nature of the business and their environment.

Rhondab said:

ok.
I'm not a fan of Mary J, & Christina is nothing like Teena Marie. I like Ms. Teena.

Oh , yeah , btw , i like Christina
[Edited 7/14/06 9:39am]

Dewrede said:

Wow, so Mr. Dewrede, where do u reside? R U sure they don't have targeted audience - radio stations where U R? Almost every market has the same format. Is it just top 40 Pop stations where U r? I'm just curious. I think they do it based on the area and the population of African Americans, etc.

goat2004 said:

And while you're at it, consider buying the Stripped album too. There are plenty of R&B songs on that album that should have been push in the black music market.

hey guys, check out this cool site -

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...-eyed_soul

They had this 2 say about Christina.


"Despite the success of her debut single Reflections, and the follow-up eponymous debut album, Christina Aguilera was first recognized on a national scale with the pop track, 'Genie In a Bottle'. Looking past the traditional cute and blonde look for pop singers, critics took quick note of her exceptional singing abilities. Later singles, What A Girl Wants and especially the Diane Warren-penned I Turn To You made many believe she was a true vocalist. At the first BET awards, Aguilera performed Whitney Houston's Run To You so well, Houston remarked that she sang the best version of the song (besides herself of course)"

Hey, did u guys know that when Mariah Carey first came out with her single, Vision of Love, they didn't have her picture on the record/CD single - this was done intentionaly of course. Hmmm, interesting....so they didn't want the audience to know she was Caucasian, that's so crazy.

goat2004 said:

I'm in Holland aka The Netherlands
There are radiostations here that play different genres but they wouldn't play solely
black or white artists
[Edited 7/14/06 11:34am]

goat2004 said:

I think if Beyonce did this song the focus wouldn't be her talent, which is singing.

goat2004 said:

That's false on a couple of levels. The single does have Mariah's picture on it and she isn't (just) Caucasian.

my favourite of Christina Aguilera's albums, is "Mi Reflejo". her version of "Contigo En La Distancia" is amongst her best vocals.

i made myself a collection singles and favourite songs of hers a while back:


Genio Atrapado
So Emotional
What A Girl Wants
Por Siempre Tu
Love For All Seasons
When You Put Your Hands On Me
Mi Reflejo
Pero Me Acuerdo De Ti
El Beso Del Final
Ven Conmigo
Contigo En La Distancia
Falsas Esperanzas
Lady Marmalade
Fighter
Get Mine Get Yours
Impossible
Can't Hold Us Down
Loving Me For Me
Infatuation
Dirrty

i had "Beautiful", but for some reason it didn't record on the disc. i'm thankful now. i can wait a long while before hearing that song again.

IMO i just think she tries too hard to be "hard". watching her "stripped:Live in the UK" dvd,(as she talks to the audience), she tries to be "deep" and emotional by using a more 'urban voice'. she slips in and out of it.
and her constantly talking about how she's in control of her career and no one tells her what to do is laughable. talented vocalist? successful? yes. controversial and trendsetting? no. next thing she be following Mary J Blige's nasty ass by talking about herself in 3rd person.

CHIC0 said:

I so hope she doesn't resort to this. I don't think she should talk. Ever. Unless she's imitating Samantha from SITC.

I love your list. Mi Reflejo is so overlooked. I actually play it more than her English albums.

JackieBlue said:

thanks so do i.

goat2004 said:

Mariah is NOT caucasian, stop the madness

JackieBlue, she's also done a Spanish version of "Get Mine Get Yours". however, it doesn't work as well as the english version.

Harlepolis said:

Guys, I know she's not caucasian - she's mixed, I know this, I was saying...I saw this on Behind The Music I think - rememebr b4 she said she was mixed - she was being promoted as a caucasian artist in the beginning and apparently her CD single, not album, did not have her picture on it. This was stated on television on some documentary about her - so, i didnt make this up. LOL, Anyway, moving on, back 2 Christina.

Rhondab said:

and hopefully chris will too, it kinda surprises me that mary would be super pissed about christinas ego and such considering she used to be a bitch too

goat2004 said:

1/2 White 1/4 black 1/4 Latina

CalhounSq said:

white tubes to boot!

BlaqueKnight said:

Tell it, Blaque.