Tough call. Jody overall but Kayrn was a better singer and much FINER.

sosgemini said:

So did Karen. "The Way You Love Me," "Superwoman," and "Secret Rendezvous" were all top-10 pop hits while "Romantic" went all the way to #1.

AlexdeParis said:

are you sure about all of them entering the pop charts? i thought it was just superwoman and romantic.

but beyond that, watley was a fixture within the pop world much longer...performing on the vma's and winning her grammy. she even created a fashion trend with her hoop earings and them biker shorts with skirts. karen was no were near as influential as watley. heck, karen actually dressed like jody...

sosgemini said:

Yes, I'm sure. Jody has 6 top-10 pop hits compared to Karyn's 4.

Anyway, I agree that Jody Watley was more successful. I was just saying Karyn was also successful. In fact, on the R&B charts, Karyn had 4 #1s ("The Way You Love Me," "Superwoman," "Love Saw It," and "Romantic") while Jody only had 2 ("Looking for a New Love" and "Real Love").

karyn couldn't touch jody's fierceness

http://www.myspace.com/jodywatley

sosgemini said:

"Secret Rendezvous" got to number 6 on the Hot 100.

sosgemini said:

but jody was a nobody who didn't matter in shalamar.....kinda like the other 2 girls in Destiny's Child

ccollin88 said:

say what?

karyn white by far, you don't know how much i love this girl. Apparently she is releasing a new album titled "action fighter" this year ( fingers crossed). She sings so effortlessly.

and whos that fool that said "superwoman" is a poor man's whitney? please, even Patti Labelle, Gladys knight and Dionne Warwick couldn't pull it off let alone Whitney.

and jody? umm shes aight!

mancabdriver said:

Umm, actually they all could except Dionne

Rhondab said:

@ the typo

Odd comparison. I don't understand the choice between the two. I liked Karyn, but she had a habit of singing through her nose. She was good, no doubt, but she was always a producer's pet. There was no independence to her sound. Jody was a very good entertainer, had more of an identity outside of her producer's sound, wrote or co-wrote most of her songs. In the end, they sounded like her songs, not her producers.

Jody's videos are also classic. Karyn's were, uh, laughable. I used to think the video for Secret Rendezvous was hot shit, now it just makes me laugh! She's a clumsy ass dancer. I remember an MTV veejay telling Janet to watch out, because she was going to be the "new queen of dance!"

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Cu-wAx4rxQ

CalhounSq said:

hey, dionne did it with class...

anyone else remember when they performed superwoman on oprah and patti looked like popeye half the time as she screamed:



and oprah did her own version of the tom cruise dance in her chair as they sang:



good lord i hope somebody has youtube'd that crazy episode.

RipHer2Shreds said:

I don't even think its a typo

wheeewww lawd...and of course you would catch that.

Rhondab said:

It just made me laugh, cuz I'm sure she's in need of one right about now. She ain't working much. I always preferred to hyphenate her name: Penis-Ton

RipHer2Shreds said:

I call her Cece Ton o' Penis!

I like them both. I really liked Karyn White singing "Love Saw It" with Babyface, and I think she was the better vocalist of the two, but overall I'd have to give the edge to Jody Watley. She could dance and she had more charisma and attitude.

shorttrini said:

I saw Jody's sister in a couple of "perfomances." I also know that she dated Kid Rock at one time. Seema like Kid Rock was heavily into porno chicks on his way to stardom.

RipHer2Shreds said:

If for only the 2 seconds from 1:10 to 1:12, this is absolutely classic!

I won't front though- this song is still among my favorites.

Moonbeam said:

Oh, I love the song! One of my favorites of hers. The video just sends me into giggles, especially when she starts to walk like an Egyptian.

Shit, 2:40 to 2:42 is classic too!

RipHer2Shreds said:

Clumsy is right! She's about to fall over at 1:12! Good God, I'm analyzing a Karyn White video.

This song is still among my favorites....of all time.

Moonbeam said:

Yeah, 1:10 - she's killin' that Roger Rabbit
1:54 - the poses on the chair
2:10 - she twists her way off camera
2:30 - walkin' like an Egyptian before dippin' low
2:40 - I can't describe that hip, skip and jump

RipHer2Shreds said:

She looks soooo close to a faceplant!



I don't remember the exact timeline, but I think this actually may have had a video before "Miss You Much", in which case Karyn must have been pissed!



I love how the chair magically falls over, but I think it may be a problem with the youtube link itself.



Another classic moment! That dip is soooo 80s, girlfriend!



It reminds me of a clumsy ass clown in a circus!

Moonbeam said:

It was before Miss You Much by a few months. The chair did magically fall over. It was a quick cut - not a problem with youtube. It always annoyed me.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Cheap!

Thanks for the laugh, guys.

Of course, she's still fine...

Jody by a landslide

I voted for Jody but one of my favorites by Karyn was The Way You Love Me and Facts of Love with Jeff Lorber way back when.

vainandy said:

Not so fast She had many uptempo jams too,the best being "Secret Rendezvous" (1989),you remember that one?

It won't stop,it don't stop
a non-stop Secret Rendezvous

Also,she had that big dance hit in 1986 (pre-LA and Babyface) "The Facts Of Love",a great uptempo song and let's not forget "The Way You Love Me".

RipHer2Shreds said:

@ "new queen of dance"

Karyn was about as graceful as a dancing elephant. Beyonce's dancing reminds me of how Karyn danced...they dance really hard, as if they are "throwin' down" but it's very clumsy and clunky.

I like them both. Karyn's 2nd cd "Ritual of Love" is a good cd and was poorly promoted by Warner Bros. "Romantic" is one of her best songs IMO and it did go #1 pop thanks to Jam & Lewis. However, Karyn had better chemistry with LA and Face.

Karyn was the better singer. Jody was the complete package.
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