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Thread started 07/04/06 11:58am

meltwithu

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THE BEYONCE FACTOR IN POP CULTURE

like her or hate her, the lady brings something to the table with her projects.
not saying that things are better simply because of her, but the results are generally positive for all participants.

Prince/Beyonce and the Grammys
Luther/Beyonce win a Grammy
Mike Myers/Beyonce Austin Powers Goldmember grosses almost $300 million
Dreamgirls/Beyonce--favorable advance press/hype for almost 30 year old play
Jay-z/Beyonce--Billboard #1's
charlie's angels/pink panther/beyonce--#1 songs from movies

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Reply #1 posted 07/04/06 12:12pm

Icicle

I can`t help but to think of her as "the new Diana Ross", there`s so many similarities...
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Reply #2 posted 07/04/06 12:15pm

Icicle

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Reply #3 posted 07/04/06 12:31pm

Freespirit

She gets my attention... even if I have not purchased much up her stuff. rose

"Dangerously in Love", her performance on the Awards... had me ~Speechless~... the stilllife stage setting... mesmerizing... fallinluv
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Reply #4 posted 07/04/06 1:28pm

squiddyren

It's like I've always said: Bee is a stunning beauty, singer, and performer, but aside from those undeniable qualities, I don't understand all the hype over her nor the group Destiny's Child itself. Is there something I'm missing about their music?, because all I hear is generic r'n'b/pop time and time again. confuse
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Reply #5 posted 07/04/06 1:57pm

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I think giving her credit for the $300 million in ticket sales for Austin Powers may be putting a bit much on it. That movie would have done that much no matter who played Foxy Cleopatra.
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Reply #6 posted 07/04/06 1:59pm

Rhondab

She will be one of the very few artist nowadays that you still may hear about 15 years from now...


I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?
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Reply #7 posted 07/04/06 2:05pm

squiddyren

Rhondab said:

I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?


I think Beyonce would have still had most of the fame she does but I also think Baby Girl would be giving her a run for her money. Wasn't she just about to bloom into a superstar before she died? In addition, for a contemporary R&B act, she sure knew how to take risks and keep her music interesting. One In A Million was practically the official birth of the Timbaland sound and Aaliyah was mature, classy, and adventurous in a way I haven't heard in her genre since.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and all the acting roles she was about to take on, if that's what you mean.
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Reply #8 posted 07/04/06 2:09pm

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Rhondab said:

She will be one of the very few artist nowadays that you still may hear about 15 years from now...


I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?


no disrespect to the memory of aaliyah, but she wasn't on the same level as beyonce. i was watching an old showtime at the apollo a coupla weeks ago and aaliyah was performing...i was shocked at how BORING it was. headset, 2 back up dancers--stuff i've seen a gazillion times. when beyonce performs, it's like a spectacle--fully entertaining. sadly, i think aaliyah, along with left-eye, selena and a maybe few others, were talented individuals who have had their legacies extended because of their untimely passing. neutral
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Reply #9 posted 07/04/06 2:23pm

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squiddyren said:

Rhondab said:

I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?


I think Beyonce would have still had most of the fame she does but I also think Baby Girl would be giving her a run for her money. Wasn't she just about to bloom into a superstar before she died? In addition, for a contemporary R&B act, she sure knew how to take risks and keep her music interesting. One In A Million was practically the official birth of the Timbaland sound and Aaliyah was mature, classy, and adventurous in a way I haven't heard in her genre since.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and all the acting roles she was about to take on, if that's what you mean.
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yeah...I think she was getting a lot of attention from Hollywood.

Also melt: if you go back and look at older DC clips, Beyonce wasn't the wigglin' chick she is today. You have at least give the benefit of the doubt that Aaliyah would have grown and develop as a performer.

Hell, go look at old prince clips....I wanna be your lover..lawd...you would have never thought that's the same man that just performed on BET with Stevie Wonder.
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Reply #10 posted 07/04/06 2:42pm

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Rhondab said:

squiddyren said:



I think Beyonce would have still had most of the fame she does but I also think Baby Girl would be giving her a run for her money. Wasn't she just about to bloom into a superstar before she died? In addition, for a contemporary R&B act, she sure knew how to take risks and keep her music interesting. One In A Million was practically the official birth of the Timbaland sound and Aaliyah was mature, classy, and adventurous in a way I haven't heard in her genre since.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and all the acting roles she was about to take on, if that's what you mean.
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yeah...I think she was getting a lot of attention from Hollywood.

Also melt: if you go back and look at older DC clips, Beyonce wasn't the wigglin' chick she is today. You have at least give the benefit of the doubt that Aaliyah would have grown and develop as a performer.

Hell, go look at old prince clips....I wanna be your lover..lawd...you would have never thought that's the same man that just performed on BET with Stevie Wonder.



true..not arguing there...but just merely suggesting that maybe aaliyah was already close to reaching here upper limits as a performer. queen of the damned, her last movie role, debuted at #1 with $14 million, but only raked in $5800 per screen before it left theaters shortly thereafter.

again. not saying beyonce is great or aaliyah wasn't..just saying that at similar points in their careers, Beyonce had a little more going for her (writing, showmanship, wow-factor (as simon cowell says)
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Reply #11 posted 07/04/06 3:17pm

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meltwithu said:


Luther/Beyonce win a Grammy

lol Luther gets a Grammy virtually every time he releases a record. "Shine" will win on the next show. Mark my words.
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Reply #12 posted 07/04/06 6:05pm

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i like her...shes so entertaining!! dancing jig Baby I swear its Deja Vu!!! booty!
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Reply #13 posted 07/04/06 6:17pm

Scorpion

Rhondab said:

I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?


Why not? Since when was Aaliyah the big Hollywood star with power to hault careers?
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #14 posted 07/04/06 6:32pm

Rhondab

Scorpion said:

Rhondab said:

I wonder though if Aaliyah was still alive would Beyonce have all of this love from Hollywood. Yes, no?


Why not? Since when was Aaliyah the big Hollywood star with power to hault careers?



Missing my point completely. Hollywood tends to have a "darling". No one is suggesting that Aaliyah had major clout but that she was becoming the darling.

And Melt, we can only speculate about Aaliyah because you can't compare the careers toe to toe. My thought was just that Aaliyah was moving up into some other things and would she rival Beyonce.
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Reply #15 posted 07/04/06 7:43pm

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Rhondab said:

Scorpion said:



Why not? Since when was Aaliyah the big Hollywood star with power to hault careers?



Missing my point completely. Hollywood tends to have a "darling". No one is suggesting that Aaliyah had major clout but that she was becoming the darling.

And Melt, we can only speculate about Aaliyah because you can't compare the careers toe to toe. My thought was just that Aaliyah was moving up into some other things and would she rival Beyonce.

I totally agree with you...It was obvious Aaliyah was going places in her music and acting career...I mean she snagged The Matrix nod
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Reply #16 posted 07/04/06 8:27pm

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Bouncy would'nt have anything on Babygirl. Wasn't she supposed to be in Dreamgirls or something? I think Aaliyah looks better than B. IMO
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Reply #17 posted 07/04/06 10:31pm

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Goldmember was a third movie in a trilogy that had greater and greater recipts with each movie. Plus B had little speaking in the movie.

Chicago, Evita, had good advanced hype as well.
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Reply #18 posted 07/05/06 2:06am

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Beyonce is growing all the time, but her acting abilities lol
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Reply #19 posted 07/05/06 5:59am

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you people kill me with the aaliyah sales werent ever good from any of her LP's out of the Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah class, she had the lowest sales, but she had the msot production done to her vocals, to make her sound passable. Brandy was a bigger star than aaliyah when aaliyah died, by far, and Beyonce was just coming off the Survivor LP, and the Bootlicious craze, so she was light years ahead of aaliyah this time, aaliyah never had the commercial success and attention until that plane hit the ground.
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Reply #20 posted 07/05/06 6:02am

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I hate her with a passion mad
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Reply #21 posted 07/05/06 6:05am

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Aaliyah has class. Beyonce is crass. nana
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Reply #22 posted 07/05/06 6:25am

krazykid18

Moonbeam said:

Aaliyah has class. Beyonce is crass. nana



I just talked to R. kelly, i heard aaliyah had class A head game
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Reply #23 posted 07/05/06 6:58am

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She definately brings something.....boredom.
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Reply #24 posted 07/05/06 9:39am

PleasurePrinci
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krazykid18 said:

you people kill me with the aaliyah sales werent ever good from any of her LP's out of the Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah class, she had the lowest sales, but she had the msot production done to her vocals, to make her sound passable. Brandy was a bigger star than aaliyah when aaliyah died, by far, and Beyonce was just coming off the Survivor LP, and the Bootlicious craze, so she was light years ahead of aaliyah this time, aaliyah never had the commercial success and attention until that plane hit the ground.

Brandy had her own TV show and huge fanbase...people were gettin Braids because of Moesha...myself included.
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Reply #25 posted 07/05/06 9:40am

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krazykid18 said:

Moonbeam said:

Aaliyah has class. Beyonce is crass. nana



I just talked to R. kelly, i heard aaliyah had class A head game
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Dont disrespect the dead,your messed up in the head mad
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Reply #26 posted 07/05/06 9:44am

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krazykid18 said:

you people kill me with the aaliyah sales werent ever good from any of her LP's out of the Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah class, she had the lowest sales, but she had the msot production done to her vocals, to make her sound passable. Brandy was a bigger star than aaliyah when aaliyah died, by far, and Beyonce was just coming off the Survivor LP, and the Bootlicious craze, so she was light years ahead of aaliyah this time, aaliyah never had the commercial success and attention until that plane hit the ground.


A word she claimed she came up with but that was a lie. Why she even TRIED to take credit for coining that term is beyond me when Snoop said it on "The Chronic" album and then the term was used again in 1994 on an episode of "A Different World" with Tupac guest starring.
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Reply #27 posted 07/05/06 10:10am

krazykid18

PleasurePrinciple said:

krazykid18 said:




I just talked to R. kelly, i heard aaliyah had class A head game
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Dont disrespect the dead,your messed up in the head mad



how did i disrespect her, i clearly said had, not has
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Reply #28 posted 07/05/06 10:53am

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Oh and for ther record
Good sales don't make a good artist ; 50 Cent sells well too feeling ill
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Reply #29 posted 07/05/06 11:18am

krazykid18

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Oh and for ther record
Good sales don't make a good artist ; 50 Cent sells well too feeling ill


because 50 Cent makes good music, point blank, Get Rich or DIe Trying quite possible is the best rap LP that came out this decade, their isn't one bad song on that LP like on Stillmatic you have Braveheart Party, and Rule, or Jayz - Blueprint where you have Hovita track and the Girls, Girls, Girls song,

good music is good music, whether you feel you don't like the artist or not, but i will take listening to 50 Cent music all day long before i listen to southern music

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