I just hope they're better than the material on Taming The Tiger.
I couldn't get to grips with that one.

"Turbulent Indigo" was quite good though.

Yeah, it was. And the album before it, Night Ride Home. Both a great improvement on all her 80s albums. All three of those were quite poor, imo.

Still, how many artists can claim that their first 10 albums are all worth investigating?

Don't know any of that stuff.

Well, you ain't missing too much.

If you can find Wild Things Run Fast (1982) and Night Ride Home (1991) then maybe there'll be worth a chance. They don't match up to her 70s work but there's some fine tracks on both. The other two, Dog Eat Dog (1985) and Chalkmark In A Rainstorm (1988) are best avoided in my opinion.
Although some fans, and Joni herself, will tell you otherwise.

I've considered picking up that box set collecting them all.

which is the one with Magdalene Laundries on it again? i consider
that one of her best 90's songs.

IstenSzek said:

Turbulent Indigo

And yeah, great track.

thanks. i'll have to dig up the dvd i burnt that one onto.
it's kinda nice to have all my albums on a small pile of
dvd's now but it's hell to find separate songs since i've
only mentioned the album titles on the box.

My thread totally took off!

Who cares if it was on a tangent.

Cloudbuster said:

"Turbulent Indigo" was quite good though.

IstenSzek said:

GangstaFam said:

There's an element of truth to that. I definitely have a block when it comes to female performers; there are very few I genuinely enjoy.

theAudience said:

Oh, I unreservedly like those records a lot. I really need to be a little more careful with my language, cuz I don't dislike all female performers. I love the Bacharach/David recordings; I love Phil Spector's girl groups, things like that. It's more in the area of modern rock and pop that I seem to have an issue, I guess.

Herbie Hancock...



...Possibilities


Steely Dan...



...Two Against Nature & Everything Must Go


Seal...



...Seal IV


George Duke...



...Face The Music


Angá...



...Echu Mingua


Joey DeFrancesco...



...The Champ: Round 2


Maybe more as they come to me.

btw, Has De Francesco ever played with NealEvans? I'd walk miles to see that!!

also btw, have you heard this disc? featuring singer Joe Doggs, a "Little Jimmy Scott" disciple...





...

damosuzuki said:

I'm the opposite. If it's some dude whining about how sad he is then I pass it by. And it's gotten worse in the last few years where weeks will pass by without me listening to an album with a male vocalist. Anyone who pays any attention to what I post in those 'What are you listening to?' threads will see that my tastes skew heavily toward women and female fronted bands.

17. Prince- One Nite Alone (2002)

MattyJam said:

Shame it's all been done before, then. And better.

Cloudbuster said:

Well, I know Kate's back catalogue inside out and back to front and the comparisons to Tori are completely unfounded.

They usually stem from people who know little about both Kate Bush and Tori Amos and just lump them both in the same "weird-witch-like-women-singer/songwriter" category due to the fact that they've probably never really listened to either properly. Which is why I'm so surprised you replied as you did.

Apart from the fact that they both have vaginas and can play the piano (Tori considerably better as well) I don't see many other similarities.

The Beekeeper is better than anything Kate has done since the mid-eighties. And I love The Sensual World and Aerial.

The Beekeeper is better than anything Kate has done since the mid-eighties. And I love The Sensual World and Aerial.

MattyJam said:

I don't think comparisons are totally unfounded, but Tori isn't a ripoff artist either as some would have you believe.

They do have some similar vocal ticks and similar range. They both are very unconventional songwriters.

But I think of Kate as more of a quirky storyteller and Tori as more of an abstract expressionist. There's certainly room to appreciate both.

GangstaFam said:

Just what are you trying to say?

Thank you. The comparisons are not unfounded at all. I played Little Earthquakes to many of my friends as I thought it was a great album that deserved to be heard, and every single one of them mentioned that there were similarities with Kate. As did nearly every review of the album. So anyone who doesn't hear it is simply a Tori-phile who can't bring themselves to admit that Kate has been a huge influence on her, something that Tori has even admitted herself many, many times. So really, what's the point in trying to deny it?

I'm not actually part of the group that considers Tori a total rip-off.
But neither am I gonna deny the obvious influence.

Tori's still better.

GangstaFam said:

Thank you. The comparisons are not unfounded at all. I played Little Earthquakes to many of my friends as I thought it was a great album that deserved to be heard, and every single one of them mentioned that there were similarities with Kate. As did nearly every review of the album. So anyone who doesn't hear it is simply a Tori-phile who can't bring themselves to admit that Kate has been a huge influence on her, something that Tori has even admitted herself many, many times. So really, what's the point in trying to deny it?

I'm not actually part of the group that considers Tori a total rip-off.
But neither am I gonna deny the obvious influence.

"I'll never forget the first time I heard about Kate," Amos recalls. "I
was playing in a club, I was 18 or 19 and somebody came up to me, pointed
their finger and said, Kate Bush. I went, Who's that? I wasn't really
familiar because Kate didn't really happen in the States until Hounds Of
Love. I was shocked because the last thing you want to hear is that you
sound like someone else. Then people kept mentioning her name when they
heard me sing, to the point where I finally went and got her records. When
I first heard her, I went, Wow, she does things that I've never heard
anybody do, much less me. But I could hear a resonance in the voice where
you'd think we were distantly related or something."

So you were never influenced directly by her?

"Well... I must tell you that when I heard her, I was blown away by
her. There's no question."

Did you sing along with the records?

"Absolutely. But I knew that I had to be careful, so I didn't voraciously
learn her catalogue. I left the records with my boyfriend at the time,
because I didn't want to copy her."

But I knew that I had to be careful, so I didn't voraciously
learn her catalogue. I left the records with my boyfriend at the time,
because I didn't want to copy her."

damosuzuki said:

I'm the opposite. If it's some dude whining about how sad he is then I pass it by. And it's gotten worse in the last few years where weeks will pass by without me listening to an album with a male vocalist. Anyone who pays any attention to what I post in those 'What are you listening to?' threads will see that my tastes skew heavily toward women and female fronted bands.