"When I was a little boy in Indiana, if someone had told me that one day I'd be getting the Artist of the Millennium Award, I wouldn't have believed it."

ThreadBare said:

Yes, thats why MTV had news that MJ was gona win some millenium award on thier website few days before the show right? then suddenly it dissapeared. They knew what the hell they were doing, that was thier intention in the first place. They even had same muliple awards that he recieved backstage to mock him after.

Diddy said:

Everything is always a conspiracy with you MJ fans. MTV is against him, Sony is against him, whitey hates him, Tom Sneddon has a personal vendetta with him. Tommy Matolla is very devilish. It's alwsays the same argument.

Axchi696 said:

MTV set him up, that was obvious. So dont give me this "conspiracy sneddon the devil" bullshit. And no, i dont even go around saying any of this crap.

And if you think its small fries "sony conspiring to bring him down" blah blah, no. Masonic Jews were behind his trials. They created him, they groomed him as a kid. So if your not doing what your meant to do they will blackmail and leak - reveal everything about your life, sex, tax everything to try and make you stay in line.

CIA & FBI kept tabs on John Lennon, let alone a freak who started to reveal things.
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Diddy said:

I'm not even sure how to respond to that. Michael Jackson has uttered some anti-semitic things in the past, and I'm sure that the MJ fan community has spun them to show that the Jews are to blame for Mike's downfall.

Anyway, to get back on topic, everyone knows that Michael would show up at the opening of a Starbucks if they promised him an award.

Cloudbuster said:[quote]

ThreadBare said:

Oh really?

Last time I checked, out of his last three singles released in America, two out of three were hits. 2001's "You Rock My World" went Top 10 Pop and Top 15 R&B while 2002's "Butterflies" went to #2 R&B (for four weeks) and Top 15 Pop. "Butterflies" also went to #1 on both Mediabase/Cashbox's Urban and Urban AC charts. Both singles were taken from the #1 double platinum "Invincible" (an album that spent four weeks at #1 on the R&B album chart and was also #1 on the Pop album chart.)

His only recent dud was "One More Chance". It may not have been a big hit in the USA but at least it gave him another Top 40 R&B single and went to #5 in the UK.

I won't even go into the success of the "Number Ones" album which is still charting in countries around the world.

Was this announced the day after AI? Hmmmm. MJ just can't stand to see Prince getting all this great press.
That's okay Mikey. We've missed seeing your staged visits to hospitals and orphanages, doing your best Jesus bit.
Just hope Angelina's kid doesn't drop in the next few days cause the press is treating that one like the REAL second coming.

I don't think Prince appearing on American Idol is anything to get jealous over.

It looked rather pathetic to come on out after Clay Aiken, Burt Bacharach, Meatloaf, etc.

The whole thing just reaked of desperation to perform in front of a large TV audience.

Recent consistency, my friend, is my point. Prince debuted at #1 with 3121, but how often does he do that?

Now, if he's doing it with the frequency of other artists (or more frequently), then cool.

Butterflies was an awesome song. I liked it a lot. But, in the States, there was a real drought before that single and after it. Other artists, haven't had similar droughts. Now, in the 1980s and early 1990s, MJ was the man. He was a chart-topping artist (by my label) then.


amit1234 said:[quote]

Cloudbuster said:

who cares?

PurpleRein said:

Pretty much the whole population of Japan, and the large global community of MJ fans.

I rang up one of my friends who lives in Tokyo, and she said everyone is really excited about MJ coming to Japan. It's going to be a big events, there is alot of excitement surrounding it.

Axchi696 said:

Way to Marginalize him!! Thriller is not a hit album, it's the biggest album in pop music histiry, go ahead, deny it? He's had succesive hit albums in Japan and worldwide. The J5 sold millions in Japan alone. He's been huge in Japan for 35 years. Dude, is a legend in Japan, get over it. I suppose Bono doesn't accept achievement awards?

Pics...









Love the clothes. Nice to see the bad-era chains and buckles are back again. Michael looks healthy and much better than last June. He's looking great, he's smiling, he's getting into some nice clothes. Shit, I can't wait for 2007.
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The ruckus on the mj boards is str8 comedy



no kidding, he looks ok, for him

lilgish said:

I don't even know how Bono got brought into this discussion; the comparison really isn't valid. And I'm sorry, Michael is just looking for more awards so he can go ahead and release another Greatest Hits and stuff the linear notes full of them a'la HIStory. The man (and his fanbase) is obsessed with awards and sales. It's like his career wouldn't be meaningful if Thriller didn't sell what it did.

And as far as the 100 Million albums sold in Japan, I'd like to see a valid link proving that. In his Sony career, he hasn't even sold that many albums in the USA.

Axchi696 said:

Yeah that's grossly exaggerated.
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Axchi696 said:

If Coke
is a mystery
Michael Jackson
HIStory

CinisterCee said:

Gotta say that along with 'Miami', that song falls into the worst 2-song segment on a U2 CD ever.

Axchi696 said:

There's no need to validate a comment I didn't make. Ask dreamfactory31
3 where he got the number.

The J5 and young MJ were Huge in Japan and sold millions, 100 mill? who knows, it's lots. The numbers are being mentioned to show some why he is deserving of the award, should they mention how many Japanese Michael impersonators exists.

Are we gonna question why Ozzy recieved the same award? Is Ozzy not huge in Japan? Are we gonna question how many Solo records Ozzy sold with CBS and just gloss over his Sab legacy? Quite frankly, there's very few music achievement awards Michael is not deserving of, thriller or no thriller.

Axchi696 said:

Man, I love the Pop album!

lilgish said:

That's how I feel.

lilgish said:

First of all, that question wasn't even directed at you. I didn't expect you to answer it.

Secondly, I know better than to expect MJ fans to provide solid evidence of record sales. I've been back and forth in this argument many times before. The most random numbers get thrown about without sources.

I just find it a little strange that in 2006, with no new product on the market, with nothing even resembling a new studio album in 5 years, Michael Jackson gets a lifetime achievement award. Do I think he doesn't deserve it? No. He obviously deserves it. I just think it's a little strange that they chose NOW to give it to him. If Ozzy has already won the award, why did he win it ahead of Michael?

You MJ heads (and before this, I never really lumped you into that category) get so hot and bothered about the smallest things. To many on the org, it seems that MJ only makes appearances nowadays at award shows. It beggars belief. You want MJ to make an appearance on your show? Give him an award. That's the point I was trying to make. Michael Jackson is now the Paris Hilton of music. He's famous simply for the sake of being famous.

Another MJ thread, another 150+ posts

CinisterCee said:

I do too, but just can't abide 'Miami' or 'Playboy Mansion'. They should've put something like 'Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me' or 'Holy Joe' in place of those cuts.

Axchi696 said:

No, he has something called a legacy. Michael's albums Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible have all been chart toppers and had mega sales, hence the praise for his career thus far. Don't kid yourself, this is more than just riding the coat-tales of Thriller

And also to the person who said Michael hasn't had a hit single in alooong time, I have 4 words for you, "You Rock My World."

Axchi696 said:

like what?

DarlingDiana said:

cute jacket, but jeez man quit with the fuckon white tees. button ups, polos!!!

Axchi696 said:

how is he obsessed w. awards? its not like he called up mtv japan and said gimme an award so i can be relevant again. and far as his fanbase bein obessed w/ awards and sales, every artist prolly has some bs thing their fans r obsessed with. prince has fans obsessed w/ the fact he produces his own shit and being on AI is just so beneath him!

good let him. America dont appreciate MJ enough no more, so fuck it.

Axchi696 said:

He's comfortable resting on his past, whether he says otherwise.