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Printable2freaky4church1 said: Does he beat Prince?
Seriously, is Prince that good? I don't hear it on his recordings (long guitar solos???) but I have heard him live. But can he really be compared with Eddie Van Halen and Hendrix? Maybe because he's also a singer/songwriter, his playing gets overlooked? | |
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That sound like sounds like little rocks hitting the fretboard real fast? Yea, he was doing the first part of Meanstreets.
He usually bases his solo around the instrumental Eruption, because he expects the audience wants to hear that. The audience makes him do that. Pop audiences expect very little from an artist, except, "entertain me!!" All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Yea, Eddie really kills on that solo. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: That sound like sounds like little rocks hitting the fretboard real fast? Yea, he was doing the first part of Meanstreets.
He usually bases his solo around the instrumental Eruption, because he expects the audience wants to hear that. The audience makes him do that. Pop audiences expect very little from an artist, except, "entertain me!!" So Eruption is something he wrote and recorded? | |
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2freaky4church1 said: That sound like sounds like little rocks hitting the fretboard real fast? Yea, he was doing the first part of Meanstreets.
Are you referring to my question about the "brown sound"? | |
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The brown sound is Eddie's tone, you hear it and you know it's him. Damned if I know how to explain it. Thick but clean?? 
I think Prince is a more versatile player than Eddie, or maybe that's because I'm more immersed in Princes musicianship. As you described Eddie does so much but it's still usually within a 'rock' framework. Prince can go anywhere. I love listening to them both, to me they are both literally awesome. | |
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Here's an excerpt from Eddies first interview about recording the first album
Guitar.com Did it take long to cut the album Van Halen? EVH: Three weeks. The album is very live with no overdubs That's the magic of Ted Templeman. I'd say out of the 10 songs on the record, I overdubbed the solo in two or three songs. One of them's doubled in "Ice Cream Man" and "Jamie's Cryin'." All the rest are live! I used the same equipment I use live, the one guitar, soloed during the rhythm track, and Al just played one set of drums [laughs]. And Mike, you know. And Dave stood in the booth and sang a lot of lead vocals at the same time. The only thing we did overdub was the backing vocals, because you can't play in the same room and sing with the amps, otherwise it will bleed on the mikes. The music, I'd say, took a week, including "Jamie's Cryin'," which we wrote in the studio. I had the basic riffs to the song. And my guitar solo, "Eruption," wasn't really planned to be on the record. Me and Al were dickin' around rehearsing for a show we had to do at the Whiskey, so I was warming up, you know, practicing my solo, and Ted walks in. He goes, "Hey, what's that?" I go, "That's a little solo thing I do live." He goes, "Hey, it's great. Put it on the record." So the music took a week, the singing took about two.  | |
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heartbeatocean said: 2freaky4church1 said: That sound like sounds like little rocks hitting the fretboard real fast? Yea, he was doing the first part of Meanstreets.
He usually bases his solo around the instrumental Eruption, because he expects the audience wants to hear that. The audience makes him do that. Pop audiences expect very little from an artist, except, "entertain me!!" So Eruption is something he wrote and recorded? Yes.  "Eruption" is on their first album."I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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The great thing about that solo video is that the only effects he's using are drive, echo and delay. EVH really showed the world that the guitar was capable of far more than anyone had ever realised. Tom Morello owes him his entire career. | |
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Eddie is a GOD..for a time in the 80's
every guy wanted to have a beer with him and every girl thought he was cute..oh yeah and he could play his ass off in a harmonic and skillful way | |
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blackguitaristz said: I grew up on Van Halen. Eddie was to my generation what Jimi was to his. He set the world on fire and had the same impact on other guitarists in a similar fashion as Hendrix had on his peers. Also, Eddie scared the shit out of other guitar players, just like Jimi did. That's one reason I dig him. Eddie was someone, for me anyways, to strive for. Really, I think Eddie is even better than a lot of cats give him credit for. He's definately far more versatile than he's credited for. He's so much more than just all flash. His licks and his phrasing, more than anything, is off the hook. Many of his rock leads, he can play in his sleep. It's his tone "the brown sound" he's so famous for, along with just flat out good chops, that sets him apart. I think one reason he's so great is because he enjoys playing the guitar. Like Santana, these cats really enjoy the act of playing. It's a spiritual thing, really. Something that GOD has blessed u with and it just flows out of u. Of course, the more u play and the closer u get to that "flow", in time, it'll become like a waterfall. It'll just gush out, but you'll be able to control it. That's one thing that makes Eddie so good, like Hendrix, is his control of his playing. Eddie many times in his solos, will burn off a fast run and then stop on a dime with some tasty blues lick and then burn up again with another run. His stop and go style shows control that many cats from his era, the 80's, just simply didn't have.
Very nicely put. Eddie is a guitar God. I've seen him perform live numerous times over the years and he always amazing me. He has such talent that often gets forgotten about seeing has he doesn't do much these days. He definitely has a flow like no other. I'd love to see him making music again. I think I will have to pull out all my old VH cd's.  | |
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cherylblues said: 2freaky4church1 said: http://www.73-79fordtrucks.com/Van%20Halen%20-%20Eruption.mpg
no i think jimi hendrix is the badest of the guitar and prince too. have a problem with it e-mail methey said badass, not baddest I think Even Jimi'd say Eddie was a badass My Legacy
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kisscamille said: blackguitaristz said: I grew up on Van Halen. Eddie was to my generation what Jimi was to his. He set the world on fire and had the same impact on other guitarists in a similar fashion as Hendrix had on his peers. Also, Eddie scared the shit out of other guitar players, just like Jimi did. That's one reason I dig him. Eddie was someone, for me anyways, to strive for. Really, I think Eddie is even better than a lot of cats give him credit for. He's definately far more versatile than he's credited for. He's so much more than just all flash. His licks and his phrasing, more than anything, is off the hook. Many of his rock leads, he can play in his sleep. It's his tone "the brown sound" he's so famous for, along with just flat out good chops, that sets him apart. I think one reason he's so great is because he enjoys playing the guitar. Like Santana, these cats really enjoy the act of playing. It's a spiritual thing, really. Something that GOD has blessed u with and it just flows out of u. Of course, the more u play and the closer u get to that "flow", in time, it'll become like a waterfall. It'll just gush out, but you'll be able to control it. That's one thing that makes Eddie so good, like Hendrix, is his control of his playing. Eddie many times in his solos, will burn off a fast run and then stop on a dime with some tasty blues lick and then burn up again with another run. His stop and go style shows control that many cats from his era, the 80's, just simply didn't have.
Very nicely put. Eddie is a guitar God. I've seen him perform live numerous times over the years and he always amazing me. He has such talent that often gets forgotten about seeing has he doesn't do much these days. He definitely has a flow like no other. I'd love to see him making music again. I think I will have to pull out all my old VH cd's. Thanx camille. Yeah, I bump all of VH with Roth in my ride all the time. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I remember reading in USA Today that Prince liked the 1st Van Halen LP. He said that he heard the LP only took 7 days to record. P said he tried to use that same energy when he did the "Chaos And Disorder" CD. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: I remember reading in USA Today that Prince liked the 1st Van Halen LP. He said that he heard the LP only took 7 days to record. P said he tried to use that same energy when he did the "Chaos And Disorder" CD.
I always thought that P got his "aowwhha" yelp that he used in the 80's, u know the one? The one that he opens up "Sexuality" with. I always that he got that from David Lee Roth cuz he used to do the same thing. It's all over the place in the song "Runnin' With The Devil" which of course is from the same album. P probably got that album for free from WB since they were both signed to WB and both of their debut albums came out the same year, 1978. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I wish Prince would run more with the devil. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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blackguitaristz said: SPYZFAN1 said: I remember reading in USA Today that Prince liked the 1st Van Halen LP. He said that he heard the LP only took 7 days to record. P said he tried to use that same energy when he did the "Chaos And Disorder" CD.
I always thought that P got his "aowwhha" yelp that he used in the 80's, u know the one? The one that he opens up "Sexuality" with. I always that he got that from David Lee Roth cuz he used to do the same thing. It's all over the place in the song "Runnin' With The Devil" which of course is from the same album. P probably got that album for free from WB since they were both signed to WB and both of their debut albums came out the same year, 1978. Is that the same "awowwhha" at the beginning Alphabet Street? | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Does he beat Prince?
I love Prince's playing...but EVH is from another planet..light years ahead of anything Prince has done or will do. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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heartbeatocean said: 2freaky4church1 said: That sound like sounds like little rocks hitting the fretboard real fast? Yea, he was doing the first part of Meanstreets.
Are you referring to my question about the "brown sound"? Eddie described the "Brown sound" as playing with a warm tone and also playing smoothly within the music...a lot of the guitar solos on most rock songs back then sound like the guitarist was rushing to get in as many notes in the solo as possible...rushed to a certain extent or mechanical like it was played or rehearsed a million times. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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NDRU said: cherylblues said: no i think jimi hendrix is the badest of the guitar and prince too. have a problem with it e-mail me
they said badass, not baddest I think Even Jimi'd say Eddie was a badass Jimi no doubt would have loved EVH's chops...Jimi would have taken some of his licks just like Eddie took some of his. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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In the early days he was more into the crunchy noises that Hendrix did. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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heartbeatocean said: 2freaky4church1 said: Does he beat Prince?
Seriously, is Prince that good? I don't hear it on his recordings (long guitar solos???) but I have heard him live. But can he really be compared with Eddie Van Halen and Hendrix? Maybe because he's also a singer/songwriter, his playing gets overlooked? The kid smokes on guitar....next to Ernie Isley, he's probably one of the most underrated guitarists ever....But Jimi and EVH are Gods...from somewhere else. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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panther514 said: heartbeatocean said: Are you referring to my question about the "brown sound"? Eddie described the "Brown sound" as playing with a warm tone and also playing smoothly within the music...a lot of the guitar solos on most rock songs back then sound like the guitarist was rushing to get in as many notes in the solo as possible...rushed to a certain extent or mechanical like it was played or rehearsed a million times. Why is it called the "Brown" sound? | |
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Actually, the "Brown Sound" was a combination of a Gibson PAF pickup into a strat body with a hole routed for the pickup, a cranked Marshall amp, and a variac to control the voltage. Eddie had no use for tone knobs, either. Everything was on 10. He's actually responsible for the stratocaster body, one-humbucker, floyd rose whammy bar, one volume knob guitar configuration that was so popular in the mid '80s. He even hand-painted his guitars. A lot of his tinkering resulted in some butchered guitars, like the Ibanez Destroyer he used to play. He took a big chunk out of it and it affected the sound - not in a good way.
Dude was just a freakin' pioneer. *He played the "Beat It" solo for FREE. Quincy Jones called him up on the phone and Eddie didn't believe it was him, so he cursed the "prank caller" out and hung up. When Quincy called again and convinced Eddie it was really him, EVH threw his guitar into the back of his pickup truck, went over to the studio and listened to the "Beat It" track. Steve Lukather (of Toto fame) had already laid down the "Beat It" riff and all the rhythm guitars and all that was left was Eddie's solo. Eddie suggested that they let him do it during the break instead of during the verse and the rest is history... My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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heartbeatocean said: panther514 said: Eddie described the "Brown sound" as playing with a warm tone and also playing smoothly within the music...a lot of the guitar solos on most rock songs back then sound like the guitarist was rushing to get in as many notes in the solo as possible...rushed to a certain extent or mechanical like it was played or rehearsed a million times. Why is it called the "Brown" sound? my guess is that he equates it with being a warm color thats not loud or overpowering...when he described his approach to solos he mentioned those same things often. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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Cause brown is the color of soul. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Cause brown is the color of soul.
And with the power of soul anything is possible. http://www.youtube.com/wa...0of%20soul "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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EVH of late..i mean the last 15 years hasnt impressed me as much, basically every solo sounds like the one from Poundcake(great song though!) | |
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