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Reply #60 posted 07/29/02 6:18am

DavidEye

A little trivia about Vanity...


***Vanity 6 appeared on "Soul Train" in late 1982,performing the songs "Nasty Girl" and "He's So Dull".The audience went crazy,especially the males...lol...but the between-song interview with host Don Cornelius was a little bizarre.When asked what role Prince played in the making of their album,Vanity lied and said "Prince was much too busy to work on our album".She also said that if anyone wants to reach them,just call "777-9311,that's our home phone number".

***I remember a magazine interview that was crazy! The interviewer came to Vanity's hotel room to interview her but she was busy watching a porno movie!! She was saying things like "Yeah,you go girl...go for it".The male writer tried to stay "focused" but was a little distracted,to say the least;)

***When Vanity split with Prince in the summer of 1983,she was soon seen with several Prince look-alikes (Micki Free of Shalamar,Andre Cymone).She has also been romantically linked with Eddie Murphy,Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue,John Stamos and an unknown named Robbie Bruce (the inspiration for the song "Strap On Robbie Baby"?).

***When Vanity left Prince,she was quoted as saying "I needed one person to love me,he needed more".Undoubtedly,she was referring to Prince's other girlfriends Jill Jones,Susan Moonsie,Sheila E.,and Susannah Melvoin...lol...

***In summer 1986,Vanity released a single called "Animals".The song sounds ALOT like Prince's "Let's Go Crazy".
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Reply #61 posted 07/29/02 1:03pm

Vagina

I remember that song like Animals when we make love ,like animals we just can't get enough. I believe this was a reference to Prince and that KING KONG Gorilla Shit She was into. Remember that shit well.
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Reply #62 posted 07/29/02 3:53pm

mistermaxxx

DavidEye said:

A little trivia about Vanity...


***Vanity 6 appeared on "Soul Train" in late 1982,performing the songs "Nasty Girl" and "He's So Dull".The audience went crazy,especially the males...lol...but the between-song interview with host Don Cornelius was a little bizarre.When asked what role Prince played in the making of their album,Vanity lied and said "Prince was much too busy to work on our album".She also said that if anyone wants to reach them,just call "777-9311,that's our home phone number".

***I remember a magazine interview that was crazy! The interviewer came to Vanity's hotel room to interview her but she was busy watching a porno movie!! She was saying things like "Yeah,you go girl...go for it".The male writer tried to stay "focused" but was a little distracted,to say the least;)

***When Vanity split with Prince in the summer of 1983,she was soon seen with several Prince look-alikes (Micki Free of Shalamar,Andre Cymone).She has also been romantically linked with Eddie Murphy,Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue,John Stamos and an unknown named Robbie Bruce (the inspiration for the song "Strap On Robbie Baby"?).

***When Vanity left Prince,she was quoted as saying "I needed one person to love me,he needed more".Undoubtedly,she was referring to Prince's other girlfriends Jill Jones,Susan Moonsie,Sheila E.,and Susannah Melvoin...lol...

***In summer 1986,Vanity released a single called "Animals".The song sounds ALOT like Prince's "Let's Go Crazy".
yep I Remember the song "Animals".Jesse Johnson came on B.E.T back in 85&told of Crazy Stories of hanging out with Vanity.He said She was like a Sister to Him&they would hang out.Vanity's Sister use to Mess with Eddie.Vanity&Eddie did go to the "Thriller" Premier back in 1983.Vanity's Sister use to Mess with Tony Lemans another Paisley park Artist.Vanity was with Billy Idol for a Minute,also Adam Ant.and you Know She was into Some Switch-Hitting as well.She is the First Lady of the Minneapolis Sound No Doubt.Prince has had alot of Babes that have Favored Vanity in Image IMHO in some form or fashion.Mikki Free also was almost a Member of Mazarati back in 86.He was Jamming with Prince for a while.Mikki Free use to Mess with Shelia E. as well.One thing about Hollywood there is alot of 6 Degrees of Seperation there.I give Her Props considering She was on Life-Support&Overcame that.I remember Reading where Vanity Said that Prince,Madonna&Michael Jackson should check that Souls&whatnot.
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Reply #63 posted 07/29/02 3:57pm

mistermaxxx

Vagina said:

I remember that song like Animals when we make love ,like animals we just can't get enough. I believe this was a reference to Prince and that KING KONG Gorilla Shit She was into. Remember that shit well.
Donnie Simpson broke a Record of Her's on Air when She Said that Her Daddy was a Gorilla.Vanity had some Interview&She made that Comment&Donny Simpson wasn't cool with the Remark&Broke Her Record on Air.
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Reply #64 posted 07/29/02 11:28pm

fonkywonder

mistermaxxx said:

Vagina said:

I remember that song like Animals when we make love ,like animals we just can't get enough. I believe this was a reference to Prince and that KING KONG Gorilla Shit She was into. Remember that shit well.
Donnie Simpson broke a Record of Her's on Air when She Said that Her Daddy was a Gorilla.Vanity had some Interview&She made that Comment&Donny Simpson wasn't cool with the Remark&Broke Her Record on Air.



I think it occured on the Tonite Show with Joan Rivers as the host (I never saw if so I don't know what Joan's reaction was, but I do remember the backlash Vanity copped from that one comment. I also remember seeing her Hard Copy around 93 where she said she wanted to save the souls of Prince, Madonna and MJ cause they were all in danger LOL I wish we could have access to all of Vanity's tv interviews she did in the 80s. Cause some of the younger fans missed out on that era.
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Reply #65 posted 07/30/02 12:19am

Vagina

Yes most definitely. There were a lot of stories about her. 1 that she was into witchcraft and she used to carry charms and things. Another that she slept with jesse johnson. And that Prince forced her to sleep with guys and forced her to wear those sexy clothes and act a certain way. Also that they had a volatile relationship. They fought a lot but then made passionate love. What do you think about these rumors?
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Reply #66 posted 07/30/02 12:54am

mistermaxxx

Vagina said:

Yes most definitely. There were a lot of stories about her. 1 that she was into witchcraft and she used to carry charms and things. Another that she slept with jesse johnson. And that Prince forced her to sleep with guys and forced her to wear those sexy clothes and act a certain way. Also that they had a volatile relationship. They fought a lot but then made passionate love. What do you think about these rumors?
I heard She was into different things.the thing with Jesse? I can't speak on.but He did trip off Her on Video Soul back in 85 with Donnie Simpson about Her.as for Prince&Her? Never heard about Him Forcing Her on Other Cats.but as far as the Clothes Go? Well Yeah.from head to toe Prince had all His Folks Look,talk&act a certain way.He Designed alot of the threads Especially the Girls Clothes.Shelia E.wore all His CLothes&whatnot.during 85.from what I Heard&Read Him&Vanity were very Stormy Love&Hate.
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Reply #67 posted 07/30/02 12:56am

DavidEye

Looks like Vanity had alot of "issues"wink
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Reply #68 posted 07/30/02 2:26am

Vagina

I hope she reveals this stuff in her book. She's cool.
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Reply #69 posted 07/31/02 12:52am

fonkywonder

mistermaxxx said:

Vagina said:

Yes most definitely. There were a lot of stories about her. 1 that she was into witchcraft and she used to carry charms and things. Another that she slept with jesse johnson. And that Prince forced her to sleep with guys and forced her to wear those sexy clothes and act a certain way. Also that they had a volatile relationship. They fought a lot but then made passionate love. What do you think about these rumors?
I heard She was into different things.the thing with Jesse? I can't speak on.but He did trip off Her on Video Soul back in 85 with Donnie Simpson about Her.as for Prince&Her? Never heard about Him Forcing Her on Other Cats.but as far as the Clothes Go? Well Yeah.from head to toe Prince had all His Folks Look,talk&act a certain way.He Designed alot of the threads Especially the Girls Clothes.Shelia E.wore all His CLothes&whatnot.during 85.from what I Heard&Read Him&Vanity were very Stormy Love&Hate.



I too have never heard him forcing her onto other men or women. But I have read in a Prince book that they had a volitle relationship, like one time while coming home from a movie they got into an huge arugment and Prince told her to get out of the car and walk home (during a thunderstorm LOL). It was a well know fact that they fought but they always made up...but I guess she couldn't take it anymore...him seeing other women, plus her drug problem which she hid from Prince contributed to the demise of their relationship. Hopefully we will get the 411 from Vanity/Denise when she releases her book this year (fingers crossed lol)
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Reply #70 posted 07/31/02 1:13am

DavidEye

Yeah,I heard about the time they got into an argument and Prince made Vanity get out of the car.That incident is probably what inspired the 'Purple Rain' scene where Apollonia and Prince fight,then she throws an earring at him and walks home (wearing lingerie,no less).
[This message was edited Wed Jul 31 1:14:35 PDT 2002 by DavidEye]
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Reply #71 posted 07/31/02 1:15am

mistermaxxx

fonkywonder said:

mistermaxxx said:

Vagina said:

Yes most definitely. There were a lot of stories about her. 1 that she was into witchcraft and she used to carry charms and things. Another that she slept with jesse johnson. And that Prince forced her to sleep with guys and forced her to wear those sexy clothes and act a certain way. Also that they had a volatile relationship. They fought a lot but then made passionate love. What do you think about these rumors?
I heard She was into different things.the thing with Jesse? I can't speak on.but He did trip off Her on Video Soul back in 85 with Donnie Simpson about Her.as for Prince&Her? Never heard about Him Forcing Her on Other Cats.but as far as the Clothes Go? Well Yeah.from head to toe Prince had all His Folks Look,talk&act a certain way.He Designed alot of the threads Especially the Girls Clothes.Shelia E.wore all His CLothes&whatnot.during 85.from what I Heard&Read Him&Vanity were very Stormy Love&Hate.
you got that same Steven Ivory Book I have as well from 1984 huh??I read that in there as well


I too have never heard him forcing her onto other men or women. But I have read in a Prince book that they had a volitle relationship, like one time while coming home from a movie they got into an huge arugment and Prince told her to get out of the car and walk home (during a thunderstorm LOL). It was a well know fact that they fought but they always made up...but I guess she couldn't take it anymore...him seeing other women, plus her drug problem which she hid from Prince contributed to the demise of their relationship. Hopefully we will get the 411 from Vanity/Denise when she releases her book this year (fingers crossed lol)
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Reply #72 posted 07/31/02 1:43am

fonkywonder

Yeah that's the one and the author said that they spent alot of time together, and if Prince was seen with a girl more than 3 times...it meant that the brother was in love LOL. I have that book and its got Prince wearing his 1999 jacket on the front cover during the 1999 tour.

I also have a pic of Vanity and Prince together at the 1985 AMAs wearing the same outfit (though Vanity ain't wearing a puffy shirt) but that captions says it Apollonia...idiot! It came from a book called Prince: The First Illustrated Biography by John W Duffy, page 38.


mistermaxxx said:

fonkywonder said:

mistermaxxx said:

Vagina said:

Yes most definitely. There were a lot of stories about her. 1 that she was into witchcraft and she used to carry charms and things. Another that she slept with jesse johnson. And that Prince forced her to sleep with guys and forced her to wear those sexy clothes and act a certain way. Also that they had a volatile relationship. They fought a lot but then made passionate love. What do you think about these rumors?
I heard She was into different things.the thing with Jesse? I can't speak on.but He did trip off Her on Video Soul back in 85 with Donnie Simpson about Her.as for Prince&Her? Never heard about Him Forcing Her on Other Cats.but as far as the Clothes Go? Well Yeah.from head to toe Prince had all His Folks Look,talk&act a certain way.He Designed alot of the threads Especially the Girls Clothes.Shelia E.wore all His CLothes&whatnot.during 85.from what I Heard&Read Him&Vanity were very Stormy Love&Hate.
you got that same Steven Ivory Book I have as well from 1984 huh??I read that in there as well


I too have never heard him forcing her onto other men or women. But I have read in a Prince book that they had a volitle relationship, like one time while coming home from a movie they got into an huge arugment and Prince told her to get out of the car and walk home (during a thunderstorm LOL). It was a well know fact that they fought but they always made up...but I guess she couldn't take it anymore...him seeing other women, plus her drug problem which she hid from Prince contributed to the demise of their relationship. Hopefully we will get the 411 from Vanity/Denise when she releases her book this year (fingers crossed lol)
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Reply #73 posted 07/31/02 2:08am

Vagina

Vanity was the only woman Prince should have been with . Every one of these women wanted a Career . It was more important to them than HIM. They all wanted to be Independent from him. They wanted to make it,but they didn't care about HIM and HIS Needs. He Needs to be the STAR! He needs to be the Man. They wanted to be seperate and not listen to him. But he created the music so they did need him cause it was his vision and he had to make the Rules. Whatever their reasons but they just couldn't cut it with him. Listen this is just what I feel. Personally I can't tell you only they can,but even if he is Too Damanding or a little Tyrant or whatever he is Fucking Great and he just makes me so Wet in my panties I can't tell you. I think he's so wonderful.
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Reply #74 posted 08/01/02 9:59am

LadyCabDriver

Vagina said:

Vanity was the only woman Prince should have been with . Every one of these women wanted a Career . It was more important to them than HIM. They all wanted to be Independent from him. They wanted to make it,but they didn't care about HIM and HIS Needs. He Needs to be the STAR! He needs to be the Man. They wanted to be seperate and not listen to him. But he created the music so they did need him cause it was his vision and he had to make the Rules. Whatever their reasons but they just couldn't cut it with him. Listen this is just what I feel. Personally I can't tell you only they can,but even if he is Too Damanding or a little Tyrant or whatever he is Fucking Great and he just makes me so Wet in my panties I can't tell you. I think he's so wonderful.
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oh PLEASE...Vanity wanted a career ALSO...she was acting and doing modeling work before she even met Prince. She was on a mission to become a star, and Prince knew this, so he made her a star!
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Reply #75 posted 08/01/02 10:58am

Starmist7

fonkywonder said:

Thanks mistermaxx but we also have to remember that things were different in the 80s. Eddie Murphy was the only black actor making serious loot and roles for black women were far and in between (unless you played hookers, junkies and maids). Maybe Vanity might have had a better shot right now since alot of singers/rappers have succesfully crossed over to films (minority representation on televsion still sucks!!!)etc. She would have been awesome in the new Austin Powers movie (she had more sass than Beyonce!) and I think she'd be better actress than Halle Berry, but she was a victim of her times and I get the impression from the interviews that I have seen of her today that she is being used the same way she was in the music biz by all these christian do gooders! They seem to be more interested in her association with Prince than what her message of god is!


You've made a BIG point. I agree...
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Reply #76 posted 08/01/02 11:01am

Starmist7

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Was there ever a sexier cover than of Prince and Vanity on the cover of the Rolling Stone? This is when Prince was da MAN! And what a couple they made.

prince in rollingstone


And they look alike too! Guess that's just the way love goes sometimes...
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Reply #77 posted 03/22/03 5:25pm

crazyhorse

I still have a copy of wild animal myself.Was totally down for vanity.Still have that issue of playboy she posed for unopened,lol.As far as pretty mess goes Ive always liked it.
Dosent anyone here remember that sheila e album romance 1600?Now that album is garbage,except for love bizzare.Or apollonias vocals on take me with you,lol.Im sure this next question I'm about to ask is done to death but I'm new hear so humor me.What is this stuff I hear about vanity in some half ass soft porn?
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Reply #78 posted 03/22/03 5:31pm

Lammastide

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C'mon, DavidEye, have some fun! "Pretty Mess" is pure camp! It's so great because it IS so horrible! That pretty much summarizes the entire Purple "harem," minus a few real talents, like Sheila and... well, uh... Sheila!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #79 posted 03/22/03 5:33pm

Lammastide

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madhouseman said:

reminds me of a lot of bad Prince tunes (no worse than the B side "GIRL" which... for lack of a better word... SUCKED)


"Girl" sucked? shocked You are a total communist!!!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #80 posted 03/23/03 10:21pm

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"Pretty Mess" is one of the worst Vanity songs along with "Strap On Robbie" but I to think that maybe Vanity could have had a career worthy of Madonna's. Problem is that Madonna really changed her act and often. I don't know if Vanity could have done that. Well, she did but she went very drastic! She went from being a coke whore to a nun!

I think its a crime that someone hasn't released some sort of Vanity solo complotion of hits and really strong studio tracks! The record companies really drop the ball on stuff like this that is out of print and they never bring back! Maybe with Vanity, they have the excuse that she is so dead set against it that they won't be able to, but that doesn't explain something like "Apollonia 6" never being released (re-released) on CD! And they wonder why their loosing money. They just keep doing rereleaes for hugely popular records and get a few hardcores to buy those over. They need help!

If you could do a Vanity Best Of, what would be included on there. I don't know all of her stuff, but here are are few easy ones that I love.

7th Heaven
Mechinical Emotion
Animals
Under the Influence
Faraway Eyes
...
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Reply #81 posted 03/24/03 3:05am

DavidEye

You gotta be kidding...a Vanity grestest hits album?? she's only had maybe one or two songs that can truly be called "hits",but I'm gonna have some fun with this and see what I come up with...


"Under The Influence Of Vanity: Her Greatest Hits"---

"Pretty Mess"(12" Version)
"Mechanical Emotion" (12" Version)
"7th Heaven" (from the movie 'The Last Dragon')
"Under The Influence" (12" Version)
"Animals"
"Undress"
"Faraway Eyes"
"Samuelle"
"Gun Shy"
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Reply #82 posted 03/24/03 8:00am

stymie

DavidEye said:

The video was HOT!! Vanity looked too sexy in that one,and her hair was fierce...lol...

The rest of her album wasn't much better,but I did like the song "Mechanical Emotion" with Morris Day.That has a funky groove to it.
Mechanical Emotion was indeed funky. Rest of the album: garbage.
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Reply #83 posted 08/22/03 6:23am

DavidEye

Mardista,this thread is for you smile
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Reply #84 posted 08/23/03 2:40am

CalhounSq

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You're digging DEEP DavidEye lol That's alright, we need more songs about assfucking woot! wink
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #85 posted 08/23/03 9:05am

1p1p1i3

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I LOVE it!
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